Going to a wedding in El Paso - should I carry?


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esquare
July 8, 2010, 01:17 PM
Hey all - I may be going to a wedding in El Paso, TX, and considering the violence that is going on at the border, should I consider carrying? I would have to check a bag which is now $50 round trip. At this point I don't know where the rehearsal dinner, wedding or reception are at, so I don't know if I can legally carry on those premises until I get there, but I will have a rental car so I could carry to the venues and lock up the weapon in the car if needed.

What do y'all say? Carry, or not. If yes to carry, what methods and weapon (say, semi/revolver, large, medium, compact, or mouse gun) would you bring?

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danprkr
July 8, 2010, 01:20 PM
Yes. Among other things they had gun fire hitting city hall the other day. The problem ain't just in Arizona.

FIVETWOSEVEN
July 8, 2010, 01:21 PM
I would say carry the largest handgun you can comfortably carry and bring a extra reload or two.

Onward Allusion
July 8, 2010, 01:23 PM
Yes, you should carry where ever you are able.

We have a large presence in El Paso and according to the folks who work for me, it used to be ok, even up to the last year. It used to be "don't go to stupid places, with stupid people, & do stupid things" but now, according to them, they are more aware of the tension and bad things have been happening, although no where as bad as the stuff across the border.

Whole Hog
July 8, 2010, 01:29 PM
What ever you do, DO NOT go to Juarez.

armoredman
July 8, 2010, 01:33 PM
Two guns, one practical and concealable, the other flashy barbeque style with very nice leather. That's the one you wear TO the wedding. :)

NavyLCDR
July 8, 2010, 01:43 PM
Two guns, one practical and concealable, the other flashy barbeque style with very nice leather. That's the one you wear TO the wedding.

He's going to Texas. It would be illegal is anyone saw it. Texas is not a free state, yet.

Sam1911
July 8, 2010, 02:07 PM
Why would there be any question? If it is legal for you to carry ... CARRY!

rscalzo
July 8, 2010, 02:07 PM
I would say a lot depends on your alcohol consuption, if any. Firearm's on primises would be another matter.

wishin
July 8, 2010, 02:16 PM
Why would there be any question? If it is legal for you to carry ... CARRY!
This. Just make sure it's okay with the inviter.

Grey Morel
July 8, 2010, 02:24 PM
Yes.

84B20
July 8, 2010, 02:28 PM
Open carry in Texas in illegal. Concealed carry is legal if you have a CCW in a state that has reciprocity with Texas. Piece of advice, if you go to Texas regularly or even infrequently like I do, spend a day and go to a qualified range and get your permit. It only takes a one day training class to qualify. Even though I live in a state that has reciprocity with Texas I figure the more training I get the better. Besides, learning the laws in the states you visit can't hurt.

oldbear
July 8, 2010, 02:59 PM
Should I carry? Only if it is a formal affair and you have a BBQ/wedding gun.:D Remember that "court guns" are not Appropriate for formal affairs.

konfederate.kowboy
July 8, 2010, 03:18 PM
I am a resident in texas, and my ccw is pending (they wanted better photos of me) but I think it is not legal to carry in a church. I will check again if I get a chance but I am pretty sure places or worship are a no no.

A small side note if I am wrong then I suggest that you carry. With a back up mag.

armoredman
July 8, 2010, 03:23 PM
Sorry, I forgot Texas doesn't have open carry, please disregard bad advice.

JTH
July 8, 2010, 03:31 PM
I'd make sure I'm legal to carry, because you have immigration stop points in and out of El Paso, especially on IH 10. Juarez is a very large city that for most parts until recently is a part of the Metro El Paso area. I've only driven through El Paso, but I don't think I'd care to live there because of the proximity to Juarez.
JT

CapnMac
July 8, 2010, 03:40 PM
It would be illegal if anyone saw it. Texas is not a free state, yet.

Far too true, at least in public spaces. Or for publicly-accessible ones. Were the wedding and/or reception on purely private property, one would only need the property owner's permission to BBQ-carry.

We have some down-right goofy laws on this in my state. A person can OC while fishing or hunting, except if they have a CHL--maybe. It could be you could keep your K-22 with snake shot, but not your CCW--again, maybe.

ambidextrous1
July 8, 2010, 04:00 PM
El Paso is the second safest city in the USA. You should avoid some areas, as in any city.

The extreme violence south of the border has not affected the City of El Paso.
I have a carry permit, but carry only occasionally because I'm concerned about possible collateral damage.

El Paso City Hall took a few nearly spent rounds, fired from Juarez, possibly by Mexican LEO in a shootout with a BG. No injuries were sustained in City Hall. That's the only time in the seven years I've lived here that El Paso received gunfire from across the border. It's much more dangerous in Chicago or Detroit, to name just a couple.

heeler
July 8, 2010, 04:40 PM
Konfederate Kowboy..It is legal to carry in a church unless they have the correct 30.06 sign posted on the door.
Most churches do not.
I certainly would not go to El Paso unarmed.

Fleetman
July 8, 2010, 04:48 PM
Absolutely carry AFTER checking the reciprocity of the state you are licensed in. Texas is a concealed-carry state as mentioned and concealed means concealed.

To the best of my knowledge, there is no way out of El Paso without going through a checkpoint. I know Laredo cannot be exited without going through one. Funny short story....while visiting Laredo recently, my gf was driving when we left and was a little nervous of going through the checkpoint. We both produced ID when asked and the officer checked them, laughed and said "that'll work!" and wished us a good trip. Once underway again my gf asked me to put her license back in her purse....turns out she had handed the officer her CHL instead of her drivers license!

I'm assuming you are considering carrying for your personal safety and not because the groom/bride may try to run away?

Nicky Santoro
July 8, 2010, 05:29 PM
OP,
If you need to ask you already know the answer.

whalerman
July 8, 2010, 05:38 PM
If you plan on drinking at the wedding, then do not carry a weapon.

Phydeaux642
July 8, 2010, 05:47 PM
Why would there be any question? If it is legal for you to carry ... CARRY!

+1 to this.

Why do folks need to ask if they should carry? Carry at all times if it is legal for you to do so in the location you are at. I don't carry in cop shops or government buildings or any other location where it is illegal for me to do so. But everywhere else is a no-brainer.

Trouble isn't going to make an appointment to meet with me, so, I should just be ready for any surprise visits.

Deltaboy
July 8, 2010, 06:05 PM
Hey all - I may be going to a wedding in El Paso, TX, and considering the violence that is going on at the border, should I consider carrying? I would have to check a bag which is now $50 round trip. At this point I don't know where the rehearsal dinner, wedding or reception are at, so I don't know if I can legally carry on those premises until I get there, but I will have a rental car so I could carry to the venues and lock up the weapon in the car if needed.

What do y'all say? Carry, or not. If yes to carry, what methods and weapon (say, semi/revolver, large, medium, compact, or mouse gun) would you bring?
YES!!!!!!!!!!

esquare
July 8, 2010, 06:15 PM
Fleetman - nice. Yeah, this isn't a shotgun wedding (as far as I know).

I know the simple answer is yes, but considering the numerous hassles and uncertainties I'm a little unsure if it would be more problematic than helpful. I would have to check a bag which is now a cost and time at the airport both ways. I would need to bring a lock box for the rental car. Then I would not know if I could actually carry in any of the venues until I was there, which might make for some interesting times. Plus, the reality of a wedding is that it's always a rush to get everywhere and I wouldn't want to cause a 'scene' if someone made me. I guess at what point does it become too much of a hassle?

CZ223
July 8, 2010, 06:19 PM
If I couldn't carry in El Paso right now, I wouldn't go to El Paso right now. I was stationed at Ft. Bliss back in 80 and 81 and it was a pretty decent place to be at the time. Even then, if you had a decent car you didn't take it to Juarez and you didn't leave it in the parking lot at the border, unless you wanted to have it stolen or trashed. With the amount of violence that takes place along the border every day, I wouldn't go without a gun especially if you are bringing someone with you.

coloradokevin
July 8, 2010, 06:25 PM
With all due respect, and no offense intended, why are you asking us? Are you seeking crime data for that area, or just asking about whether we think carrying a gun to a wedding is a good choice?

Aside from just the demographic information for that area (which I know nothing about), I'd say that that deciding whether or not to carry a gun to a wedding, or any other event in your life, is a very personal decision. Only YOU can weigh the factors of risk versus reward (or, put another way, "cost/benefit") of carrying a gun in any given situation.

PRO's:

-If you carry and need a gun, you'll have a gun.

CON's:

-Checking baggage costs money
-Hassle
-Family considerations

Things to think about:

-Are you legal to carry in TX or not?
-Are you planning to drink?
-Are you planning to go anywhere where you can't legally/practically carry a gun? If so, where will you put the gun?


Personally, I carry nearly everywhere I go, and I check a gun each time I fly (which is a hassle, but doesn't cost any extra when flying Southwest). Whatever you decide to do on this one is entirely up to you, and I won't fault you either way. But, as an interesting side note, my uncle was married a number of years ago. He is a gun guy, and requested that everyone in his wedding (including his bride) wear a gun for the ceremony :)

esquare
July 8, 2010, 06:30 PM
I'm asking to get feedback on where the 'hassle' line is for most people. However, it seems that to most people, I have not yet hit the line. So, this will help motivate me to plan to carry while I'm out there.

jaymac
July 8, 2010, 08:01 PM
As stated previously you must have a concealed carry permit from Texas or a reciprocal state to carry on your person CONCEALED. In the vehicle is another matter. you may carray a CONCEALED handgun locked and loaded in the vehicle as long as you are not prohibited from owning the firearm and you are not in the process of committing a more than misdemeanor offence (speeding ticket does not preclude you from having firearm in car). Note importance of concealed.

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