I bet this isnt very common in your neck of the woods..


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Afy
July 10, 2010, 02:40 PM
Well after a five month wait it arrived...

My very own STG 57 in 7.5x55 Swiss

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh178/afy08/STG57.jpg

Another view with the Bipod and Sights deployed
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh178/afy08/STG2.jpg

One with the K-31 and my Savage
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh178/afy08/K11.jpg


My BIL shooting it
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh178/afy08/BIL1.jpg

I am thrilled with this ugly black rifle.. :evil:

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Hatterasguy
July 10, 2010, 02:43 PM
Where did you get that beauty? Is it class 3 FA? If they were legal in CT I would own one, amazing rifles.

Now you need a Sig550, K11, and ZFK55 to round your collection out!:D

I love Swiss rifles, IMHO they are some of the best built weapons in the world.

Afy
July 10, 2010, 02:45 PM
One of the minor advantages of being in France. Sig 550 next year. The finance ministry has put in place austerity measures for this year... I'm not complaining. :D

gb0399
July 10, 2010, 02:45 PM
Nope, not very common in these woods.

Does it come with the cow hot plate, or did you get that seperrate?

Afy
July 10, 2010, 02:46 PM
The hot plate is a speacial Swiss tacticool item... :p

Hatterasguy
July 10, 2010, 02:51 PM
One of the minor advantages of being in France. Sig 550 next year. The finance ministry has put in place austerity measures for this year... I'm not complaining.

Nice, in the US those rifles are huge money and super rare. AMT's are $5k, 550's are $3k+, stg57's are damn near impossible to get.

Some of you guys in Europe have cool stuff!
http://theswissriflesdotcommessageboard.yuku.com/reply/42695/t/Post-your-collections.html#reply-42695
Post number 22, he has some nice toys!


BTW whats GP11 going for in your area? In the states 480 cases are down to $200.

Afy
July 10, 2010, 02:55 PM
We're paying about 200 Euros for a case of 480. Ammo is super expensive in Europe and allmost everyone reloads.
Unfortunately the STGW chamber is fluted lenghtwise and across the shoulder so reloading is out of the question. I need to lay down a decent supply before I can seriously shoot it. :(:(

Shear_stress
July 10, 2010, 02:55 PM
Hey, you finally got it! Congrats!

I had the incredible luck to run a magazine through an SG-510-4 a couple of years ago here in the States. One hell of a rifle and very hard to find here. The one I shot was full auto and the owner, a local "Special Occupational Taxpayer" (SOT), said he paid over $30000 for his.

If you really want to piss us off, tell us how many Euros you gave for that rifle ;)

Afy
July 10, 2010, 02:58 PM
Shear Stress: 750 euros with 2 magazines, a cleaning kit and Bayo. :D:D:D:D

Could have gotten it for about 500 had I wanted to wait another two months to import it from Switzerland.

Shear_stress
July 10, 2010, 02:59 PM
Shear Stress: 750 euros with 2 magazines, a cleaning kit and Bayo.

Ha!! Well played!!!!

Try to find a deal like that here: bonne chance!

gb0399
July 10, 2010, 03:02 PM
1 Euro = 1.2645 U.S. dollars

948.38

Hatterasguy
July 10, 2010, 03:03 PM
I hate you.:D

gb0399
July 10, 2010, 03:19 PM
would you classify that as an assault rifle or a light MG?

Afy
July 10, 2010, 03:27 PM
Assault Rifle.. the LMG needs a bigger mag..but in the FA version I guess it could go either way.

Hatterasguy
July 10, 2010, 03:38 PM
I thought the Swiss used a modified MG42 for their general purpose machine gun.

MG51 if I remember correctly.

http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg50-e.htm

Like the typical Swiss they built it better than the Germans!:D

Afy
July 10, 2010, 03:41 PM
I do beleive its still in service on the Leopard tank too.. But I might be wrong. No expert on Swiss guns.

carbine85
July 10, 2010, 05:14 PM
Is that modeled after the AR18? Looks very similar.

gunnie
July 10, 2010, 06:57 PM
outside appearances aside, no similarity. the 180 has a rotary bolt very much like an AR 15/16. the sig is delayed roller block recoil operation similar to the HK 91.

gunnie

FMJMIKE
July 10, 2010, 07:21 PM
Great Rifle...............Can I shoot it ???
:D

Dr.Rob
July 10, 2010, 09:59 PM
Wicked looking... oddly tall sights.. is there a reason for that?

sans magazine would look at home across a stormtrooper's chest (Star Wars not Germany)

Shear_stress
July 10, 2010, 10:39 PM
oddly tall sights.. is there a reason for that?

Probably due to the straight line stock, as with the AR.

DustyVermonter
July 11, 2010, 05:10 AM
Why can't we have those, I hate to sound like a whiner but, that's not fair. Is there anything here in the states that you can't have because I'd love to rub it in. :)

Afy
July 11, 2010, 05:18 AM
Dusty: A lot in the States that we can have, cheap guns, ammo, reloading supplies you name it. You're much better off than us. Krieger, Hart, Rock river barrels, Bib bullets, the list is endless. I cant even locate a 30 BR reamer to have one built.

The gun culture here is more a shooting culture and everyone is competitive.

FMJMike: Anytime you're this side of the pond, more than welcome.

The Annoyed Man
July 11, 2010, 10:30 AM
Slightly off-topic.... but I find it interesting that access to your shooting position is from the front of the bench, rather than behind it. I've never seen a bench like that. Is that unique to that range, or is it a particularly European thing?

Al LaVodka
July 11, 2010, 12:51 PM
The busiest range in the US, where I worked once, had the same benches albeit not so big -- first in right-handed-only wood with removable semi-auto ejection protection screens, then in left and right-handed cement and the idiots forgot to leave holes for the screens). Carpet remnants where plentiful and eventually all of the wooden-benches were ultimately covered in astroturf -- not after they were replaced at some expense for some reason as the wood was fine.

Note: liberal Democrat elected officials surreptitiously shut it down. Vote Dem Bums Out!

Al

Afy
July 11, 2010, 02:00 PM
Annoyed Man, the benches are fairly typical in my neck of the woods. We also have simillar concrete benches. There are cut outs to allow for both left and right handed shooters.
Things are just slightly different.

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