Cimarron Model P range day


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_N4Z_
July 11, 2010, 12:53 PM
Went out and did some laod testing with the new .357 Model P this morning.

Tried 4 different loads as well as some factory store bought.

The factory fodder was Winchester 125gr .38spl +p SJHP. They shot well enough around 2" 6 shots @ 7yrds, standing unsupported.

Handload 1
158gr LaserCast SWC
6.8gr Unique
6 @ 7yrds
standing unsupported.
3+" group

Handload 2
158gr Speer LHP/SWC
3.5gr Bullseye
6 @ 7 yrds
standing unsupported
3" group ( I jerked the last shot - First 5 were @ 1-1/2")

Handload 3
158gr Speer LHP/SWC
3.8gr Bullseye
6 @ 7 yrds
standing unsupported
1-1/2" group

Handload 5
158gr Remington SJHP
7.3gr Unique
5 @ 7yrds
standing unsupported
2" group

Looks like it prefers lead and jacketed, but maybe not hardcast. These are just my fisrt tests. More to come for sure.
And od course a pic of the good ones of the day.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f22/_n4z_/DSC03155.jpg

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mec
July 11, 2010, 01:27 PM
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=123996&stc=1&d=1278869071
They are generally very accurate with optimum chamber/barrel throat measurements. They come with extra tall front sights so that you can file them into the correct elevation. Sometimes the barrel has to be turned for horizontal point of aim correction. Occasionally, there are slight timing issues. Most of these are addressable by the owner and the Uberti's are generally more user friendly than the colts.

surbat6
July 14, 2010, 06:11 PM
That's a pretty nice Cattleman you have there, Mec. I have the identical (5.5 inch barrel, BP frame, B-C/H), but in .44-40. Almost since I got it, I've been looking a matching second gun. I even got right and left holsters for them. Until then (some day I'll find the sister to the one I have), I'll put the crossbolt SAA in the left one.
N4Z, looks like you have some keepers with those last two loads. You used factory .38's for your control. Are you using .357 or .38 brass for your handloads?

mec
July 14, 2010, 06:32 PM
That 32 wcf actually is a Cimarron Model P version of the uberti. This one was bought along side a 38\40 that shoots very small 25 yard groups. There seems to be quite avariaton among the Uberti single actions when it comes to springs . These have the flat trigger bolt spring while some are round wire and this one also has a coil spring loaded plunger to drive the hand. -one less broken leaf spring to worry about.
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=65948&stc=1&d=1193154131
the 38wcf at 25 from bench


http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=124159&stc=1&d=1279146638
spring variations.

The Cimarron P also has a traditional removable cylinderbushing- unlike the current colts.

_N4Z_
July 15, 2010, 08:22 AM
N4Z, looks like you have some keepers with those last two loads. You used factory .38's for your control. Are you using .357 or .38 brass for your handloads?

I use .357 brass 98.9% of the time in my revolvers. The above mentioned .38's were used as a starting point because I don't plan on using many thumpers in the Model-P, and I found them on sale.. ;)

I bought the P for target work, plinking, and because I've been wanting a Colt type SA for quite awhile. Just like the way they look and feel. The full house magnums go to my Rugers.

And yes, the Model P seemed to do best that day with Bullseye over soft lead. Thanks.

Lar1911
July 15, 2010, 09:09 AM
I have a Uberti Cattleman in 45 colt.

I was going to get the 357 but a friend mentioned that I prob will not be shooting it alot (bought as another toy) and its thrilling to launch those big 45's downrange. And he was right.

A month later I bought a birdshead Vaquero (3 5/8 barrel) in 45 colt. Love them both for different reasons.

The Bushmaster
July 15, 2010, 09:29 AM
I'll stick with my Colt Model P second generation...

Hammerdown77
July 15, 2010, 02:50 PM
I have a Cimarron Model P in .45 Colt, case hardened finish and 5.5" barrel. It would put all six shots touching each other at 15 yards rested, but about 6 inches left from point of aim. I sent it back at the end of February to Cimarron to have the barrel turned, and after taking over double the time they said it would, finally got it back yesterday. I'll take it to the range this weekend and hope for the best. Sure is pretty to look at, though.

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