Weatherby Vanguard Sub-MOA


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giggitygiggity
July 16, 2010, 03:35 PM
Is anyone familiar with the Weatherby Vanguard Sub-MOA Rifle? I want an accurate shooter in probably .22-250. I would really like a stainless steel, fluted, bull-barreled rifle. However, I recently handled a Sub-MOA and it seemed like a quality piece. How does it compare to the Remington VSSF II, Winchester Coyote, Browning A-Bolts, Tikkas, and Kimbers? What all does a heavy barrel offer in comparison to the normal barrel on the Sub-MOAs? Thanks.

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Geno
July 16, 2010, 09:09 PM
Seriously, save your money on the Sub-MOA. Most of the Vanguard Varmint Specials will shoot that well or better. Simply request to view the factory-fired target before buying. My own Vanguard Varmint Special groups in the 0.25" range, just like the factory-fired target. For what it's worth, my M700 Varmint and Kimber LPT fire in the same range.

Geno

giggitygiggity
July 16, 2010, 10:29 PM
What kind of ammo do you use? Thanks.

Geno
July 16, 2010, 11:36 PM
It favors Remington factory-loaded 45 grain and 55 grain ammo. I haven't even bothered hand loads, and I finally bought some Lapua brass about 2 weeks ago.

If you buy one, and go to purchase a scope base, it takes the Howa 1500 base. It is not a "short-action". I should clarify, mine is a .223 Rem. Here is the thread from when I bought it: http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=496097&highlight=Weatherby (See post #9 for the factory fired target). :)

Geno

giggitygiggity
July 16, 2010, 11:57 PM
Great. Does everyone like their Weatherby rifles? I handled them and they seem solid and have smooth actions. Does everyone have the same impressions?

Geno
July 17, 2010, 12:17 AM
Run a search in this sub-forum. There are 786 threads on Weatherby rifles here at THR. Here is a great one (recent): "What Makes Weatherby So Special"?

http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=489257&highlight=Vanguard

Oh yeah, if you purchase one, write Ed Weatherby a letter and thank him. He personally will write back to you. Make a photocopy of your target, and set out to better it with handloads, and send a copy to Ed. He'll write you back and congratulate you.

Enough said?! It isn't just the rifle...it's the company, and the family behind it. :D

Geno

Maverick223
July 17, 2010, 12:37 AM
Sub-MOAI'd not pay extra for that name. Most any decent bolt gun will shoot that well or better, and a bull bbl will shoot that well for a longer period.

:)

Action_Can_Do
July 17, 2010, 06:25 AM
The Sub-MOA also has a better stock than the standard vanguard. Me, I have terrible luck, and have decided that when I go for my 257 Weatherby I'm going to pony up the extra dough.

pbrktrt
July 17, 2010, 10:38 AM
Giggity, if you to the Weatherby Nation site you will see that they are building a member rifle with the features you listed. It is, however going to be chambered in .257 WM. Not the best varmint round but I bet the results would be explosive.

Ky Larry
July 17, 2010, 01:17 PM
I had a Weatherby Vanguard in 7mm Rem mag. Bought it at Wally World. Rifle was pure stock with a Tasco World Class 3X9 scope. With Rem factory ammo it would shoot .75" groups.

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