Need info on NcStar AR 15 Scopes


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Stevepilot3
July 18, 2010, 01:36 AM
Hi all,

I'm new to this board, but you all just saved me from buying an Osprey International scope! Thanks!

The gun show is in town, leaving tomorrow. I am now looking at NcStar line of AR15 M16 carry handle mount scopes.

Do any of you have any bad things to say about this mfg?

Please reply ASAP, as I'm going back by 11 am tomorrow (EST). I already read your threads regarding Leupold and Nikkon scopes, and will likely go that way if I don't hear anything bad aobut these.

I don't think I have HTML enabled, but here is a link attempt:

http://www.opticstore.com/NcStar%20AR-15%20M-16%20Rifle%20Scopes.htm

Thanks again!

~ Steve

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Big_E
July 18, 2010, 02:05 AM
Heh, yeah go with Nikon. Buy once, cry once.

I think an easy Google of "NcStar scope reviews" will yield a lot of results.

I have had my fair share of cheap Simmons, BSA, Tasco various optics and they were junk. Nikon is a great deal for the money but there are other brands that are worth looking into.

1. What do you plan to use the optic for?

2. What is your budget?

On a good note, the highest end models of the cheapest brands can be okay and last awhile, but if you're going to the top end of these companies, you might as well pay a tiny bit more and get a Nikon Prostaff, Vortex Crossfire, Redfield(?), etc...

Stevepilot3
July 18, 2010, 02:39 AM
Thanks! I spent the past hour scoping the scopes, and nothing good was said about the NcStar series. Almost all stories on Youtube were not good, or done by people who don't know that they're talking about. (A 5.56 / 50 grain bullet? Nope, they're 55 grain M-193, made for a 1 in 9 twist. I have a 1 in 7 twist that needs at least the M-855 / SS-109 62 grain!)

Anyway, the NcStar scopes are dogs. As was said, you get what you pay for! (Chinese / ChiCom crap, it turns out, too).

Thanks for the fast reply!

~ Steve (who no longer has anywhere NEAR 20/15 vision). D'oh!

Big_E
July 18, 2010, 04:08 AM
Glad I could sorta help.

Oh and that stuff you said about 5.56 bullets could use some revising and research. My 1/7 upper shoots 55 gr very well. But that is off topic and we have a great wealth of info here to search through.

tju1973
July 18, 2010, 08:21 AM
Thanks! I spent the past hour scoping the scopes, and nothing good was said about the NcStar series. Almost all stories on Youtube were not good, or done by people who don't know that they're talking about. (A 5.56 / 50 grain bullet? Nope, they're 55 grain M-193, made for a 1 in 9 twist. I have a 1 in 7 twist that needs at least the M-855 / SS-109 62 grain!)

Anyway, the NcStar scopes are dogs. As was said, you get what you pay for! (Chinese / ChiCom crap, it turns out, too).

Thanks for the fast reply!

~ Steve (who no longer has anywhere NEAR 20/15 vision). D'oh!
YMMV, but my 1/7" shoots 55 grains great out to at least 300 (as far as I can shoot on my dads land), so don't limit it to 62+...

Canuck-IL
July 18, 2010, 08:29 AM
Only experience with McStar is with a spotting scope ... junk from day 1 but cheap enough that I didn't bother sending it back. I can't imagine they make anything sturdy enough to actually mount on a gun and work for more than a day.

1:7 and 1:8s will often shoot light weights, especially the match quality 52s quite well. I think the effects of "overtwisting" have more to do with the bullet quality than the barrel twist - especially bullet concentricity and weight distribution. Of course, the opposite is not true ... undertwisting does not generally work ... 1:9 *may* shoot up to 77s (rarely) but are usually not going to be acceptable past 69s or even 62s.
/Bryan

Acera
July 18, 2010, 03:05 PM
My NcStar golf ball launcher works pretty well. I've looked at their BUIS's, and might consider them in the future on a budget gun. The only item I had with glass in it from has been sent back for repairs, and I will never buy anything but the most basic, simple, non-complicated items they sell from now on. No more optics.

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