My newest revolver :)


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Morgo
July 18, 2010, 02:44 AM
Picked this up yesterday from my dealer, its an S&W 686 Competitor.

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I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet, hopefully next weekend or maybe during the week after work.
The trigger is very smooth in DA and SA is excellent :)

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madcratebuilder
July 18, 2010, 07:51 AM
That's cool, what's under the setscrew on the end of the shroud?

Morgo
July 18, 2010, 08:07 AM
Do you mean the allen key below the muzzle?

Radagast
July 19, 2010, 02:31 AM
Very nice Morgo. How much does Stu Collibee want for one of those?

David E
July 19, 2010, 02:33 AM
That's where the muzzle/barrel weights go.

Morgo
July 19, 2010, 03:10 AM
Very nice Morgo. How much does Stu Collibee want for one of those?

Thanx.
This one can't be bought new anymore, as far as I know, there was another model which appeared to be the same pistol but with some weight reduction to the barrel. Not sure if they still sell those either, as I know of one site had them for awhile but not anymore.
I think they were going for $2300 on that site.

Morgo
July 19, 2010, 03:13 AM
That's where the muzzle/barrel weights go.

Thats correct.
I've just left them all in, I like heavy pistols :)

Radagast
July 19, 2010, 08:05 AM
My BIL has the old weighted barrel version, IIRC it looks much the same as yours, but with cuts in the side of the barrel shroud so the weights can be seen. He paid $2300 about 18 to 24 months ago for his. That version is no longer available, which is why yours grabbed my attention, as I am looking at buying a 686 for my father.
FWIW yours is the better looking gun. The solid shroud is much more appealing. :)

JFrame
July 19, 2010, 09:13 AM
Man -- that's a piece that's just crying to pistol-whip someone... :D

Seriously though, I'm sure that revolver shoots like a dream. :)

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LHRGunslinger
July 19, 2010, 09:20 AM
Bloody gorgeous!

Morgo
July 20, 2010, 02:35 AM
My BIL has the old weighted barrel version, IIRC it looks much the same as yours, but with cuts in the side of the barrel shroud so the weights can be seen. He paid $2300 about 18 to 24 months ago for his. That version is no longer available, which is why yours grabbed my attention, as I am looking at buying a 686 for my father.
FWIW yours is the better looking gun. The solid shroud is much more appealing. :)

This one?
http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp4/brycemorgan452/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.jpg

I believe mine was the version before that one.
Shame they stopped them, one of my club shooters has one and I quite liked it as well. Though as you said, I like the solid look better as well :)

Morgo
July 20, 2010, 02:37 AM
Man -- that's a piece that's just crying to pistol-whip someone... :D

Seriously though, I'm sure that revolver shoots like a dream. :)

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lol, its weighted like a Desert Eagle! I'm sure it would work well as a club if I ran out of ammo in a crisis though :)

45bthompson
July 20, 2010, 02:52 AM
That would be a shame to mare the finish on some teeth.

Morgo
July 20, 2010, 03:46 AM
That would be a shame to mare the finish on some teeth.

lol :)

ultradoc
July 20, 2010, 07:28 AM
can you say cannon? very nice!

Morgo
July 20, 2010, 07:31 AM
Thanx!

StrawHat
July 20, 2010, 07:45 AM
Here I thought the regular 686 was too heavy for the 357 Magnum.

will you use this in competition? If so, what type of shooting? I had a heavy lugged revolver for competition and eventually switched to the 686 and never looked back. They are accurate revolvers and any time I missed, I knew where to plac ethe blame.

Radagast
July 20, 2010, 07:53 AM
Morgo: Yep, that's the one.

Morgo
July 20, 2010, 08:03 AM
I thought it would be :) I just noticed that one also has the lock where as mine doesnt.

Morgo
July 20, 2010, 08:10 AM
Here I thought the regular 686 was too heavy for the 357 Magnum.

will you use this in competition? If so, what type of shooting? I had a heavy lugged revolver for competition and eventually switched to the 686 and never looked back. They are accurate revolvers and any time I missed, I knew where to plac ethe blame.

It most probably will not see and serious comp use maybe an informal match here and there. It's mostly just for me to shoot for fun.
For competition I'm really a semi auto guy, mainly .38 Super 1911's.

StrawHat
July 20, 2010, 08:22 AM
Morgo, I am not up on what S&W produces lately so help me out. You use a 38 Super for competing. I know a few 686s were built in that chambering is this revolver one of them? I have a few S&Ws cut for the 45 ACP and really enjoy them. Enough so I built a 4" N frame in 45 ACP for CCW.

Morgo
July 20, 2010, 04:23 PM
This one is in .357 Magnum.
Most of the .38 Supers I have are 1911's. I believe S&W made a version of the 627 with an unfluted 8 shot cylinder in .38 super with a 5" barrel, I have one on my want list :)

clang
July 21, 2010, 08:01 AM
If Robocop carried a revolver, I am sure it would have been one of these.

Radagast
July 22, 2010, 06:58 AM
Robocop would carry the S&W 327 TRR8. It has a tactical rail. :P

S&W did make a 627 in .38 super with a 5 inch barrel, single port comp, unfluted black cylinder and Miculek grips. A lot of Aussie shooters have had them reamed to shoot 9mm.

Morgo
August 12, 2010, 05:29 AM
Well I thought I might post a range report since I've had time to get to the range recently.

I went with 50rds of factory .357 and 300rds of .38 special target loads.

I started off with 50 rounds of the .38 special loads and was very disapointed that I was getting light primer strikes 2 or 3 times out of 5 shots! :(
Needless to say I was rather bumbed about it so I though I'd do a quick search on the Iphone to see if I could find a possible solution.
First up was the primers could be too hard, nope already using federal small pistol second was there was mention of a screw being too loose under the grips for the main spring. I had doubts about that but took the grips off and the screw was a little loose, so I tightened it up a bit and low and behold no more light primer strikes! :)
Trigger pull was a little heavier not much though, so back to the testing.

The remaining 250rds of .38 special loads went through with out a hitch and accuracy was easy sub 1 inch groups from a rest at 25 yards and about 2 inches standing. I'm pretty happy with that since I'm not really a revolver guy and can do better with my semi autos.

50 yards I was getting around 2.5 inch groups from a rest, I think I'm going to enjoy this with a scope for 50 yard shooting as the recoil was minimal.

The factory .357 mags were like shooting 9mm in this revolver the extra weight soaks up all the recoil much like the desert eagle.

I also had a Beretta 92fs with me since I hadn't shot one for a bit, the first trigger pull on the beretta I though something had broken it was so heavy compared to the smith. The double action on the smith feels lighter and smoother than the single action pull on the Beretta!

All in all its turned out to be a great pistol :)

Radagast
August 12, 2010, 07:13 AM
Nice! Not a lot of people can manage two inch groups at 25 meters.

FWIW, you can reduce the double action on the Beretta to 8 pounds, SA to 5 pounds by installing the reduced power hammer spring from the double action only 92D model. Takes about 5 minutes to do. Drift out the roll pin at the bottom of the grip that holds the lanyard ring in (carefully, otherwise the ring will go flying), shake out the spring, drop in the new spring (it has 3 less coils) push lanyard ring back in, reinsert roll pin. The Glock tool is a handy drift punch for the roll pin. Beretta Australia has them as a spare part.

You can go further and do a full trigger job, IIRC Texretta at the Beretta forum has videos up on youtube on how to do it.

Some years ago my ex gave her 92fs to shoot to an IPSC shooter to try, who handed it back claiming the trigger was broken. Nope, just the single action trigger take up was so long and heavy compared to an STI.

Time for me to offload my Bull M5 that I don't shoot anymore and put in an order for a 686 Plus Pro. :)

Spartacus451
August 12, 2010, 10:22 AM
Morgo, even if it was tuned for Federal small pistol it may have also been tuned for hand seated primers. It makes a big difference.

Mp7
August 12, 2010, 10:43 AM
What a monster!
Ned Kelly would be prouda ya, mate.

Would make a nice farm gun, too :)

Morgo
August 12, 2010, 08:44 PM
Nice! Not a lot of people can manage two inch groups at 25 meters.

FWIW, you can reduce the double action on the Beretta to 8 pounds, SA to 5 pounds by installing the reduced power hammer spring from the double action only 92D model. Takes about 5 minutes to do. Drift out the roll pin at the bottom of the grip that holds the lanyard ring in (carefully, otherwise the ring will go flying), shake out the spring, drop in the new spring (it has 3 less coils) push lanyard ring back in, reinsert roll pin. The Glock tool is a handy drift punch for the roll pin. Beretta Australia has them as a spare part.

You can go further and do a full trigger job, IIRC Texretta at the Beretta forum has videos up on youtube on how to do it.

Some years ago my ex gave her 92fs to shoot to an IPSC shooter to try, who handed it back claiming the trigger was broken. Nope, just the single action trigger take up was so long and heavy compared to an STI.

Time for me to offload my Bull M5 that I don't shoot anymore and put in an order for a 686 Plus Pro. :)

Thanx :)

I've heard of the D springs before but had not thought to contact Beretta Australia. I just put it down to another thing that would be nice to have but not going to find here. I'll have to contact them and see if I can get a few for my Beretta's.
I really havent been shooting any of my DA/SA semi for a while so the Beretta really was a big difference compared to the 1911/2011's I normally shoot.

686 Plus Pro, very nice :)
I'd like to get a 627 8 shot .38 Super in the near future :D

Morgo
August 12, 2010, 08:46 PM
Morgo, even if it was tuned for Federal small pistol it may have also been tuned for hand seated primers. It makes a big difference.

I figured it may have been setup for bullseye shooting using single action only or similar. I like all my firearms to be reliable with all types of ammo so I don't mind the very slight increase in trigger pull.

Morgo
August 12, 2010, 08:47 PM
What a monster!
Ned Kelly would be prouda ya, mate.

Would make a nice farm gun, too :)

Thanx :)

It certainly is a heavy beast though not my largest :)

Taroman
August 12, 2010, 10:14 PM
Sweet! Never knew they made such a model.

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