Score This Target Please!


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Joshua M. Smith
July 19, 2010, 09:10 PM
Hello,

I need this target scored please:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b191/WabashShootist/Guns/hollowpointer/th_71545a3a.jpg (http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b191/WabashShootist/Guns/hollowpointer/?action=view&current=71545a3a.jpg)

Five shots.

I am not scoring it myself for a couple reasons. First, I'm not sure I can be 100% objective. Second, I fired five rounds, almost certain that I hit with all five rounds, but I cannot find the fifth round.

I think it went through the same hole as another, as one looks slightly elongated, but I do not want to make that call. If you see it, please tell me which one it is.

I'm leaving the pic full sized; please click on the thumbnail to view the full sized pic.

The center is 0.5" across the black.

Please let me know what you all think!

Thanks!

Josh

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Joshua M.
July 19, 2010, 09:25 PM
Kinda hard to tell on the pic, but I would say it is a 40 1X...But them holes look pretty big for a .22, best way to check is use like a pencil, or pen, and see how far it goes into each hole, and if it goes in real far on the one you think is prolly is...

cavman
July 19, 2010, 09:51 PM
I took two overlays and blew up the picture to fit one of the holes. I used the 45 overlay as it is the biggest one I had.

http://www.bullseyegear.com/bullseyepistol/images/D/odaidl.jpg

The three holes up top all fit perfectly under a single overlay .45 ACP ring. The one on the bottom has a ring on the bottom and I used that as a guide. From that edge it is a nine. There is also an edge that I found on the 2 o'clock of the bottom hole. Using the two overlays on top of each other, two edges are discernible and I would say that is a two bullet hole.

velocette
July 19, 2010, 10:15 PM
I agree with cavman, 49 - 1x. The 6 oclock hole is a double. One 10, one 9.

Roger
and I've scored a S-load of targets.

dakotasin
July 19, 2010, 10:23 PM
before looking at the other replies, i see a 49-1x, bottom hole has 2 shots.

mwcharger
July 19, 2010, 10:27 PM
its hard to say, typically in nra competitions, if there is any question or posibility that the shot is keyholed then they give credit to the shooter.

if there were no crossfires on either side of you then i would definately say that the hole at the bottom is actually two shots keyholed together

Joshua M. Smith
July 19, 2010, 11:35 PM
Hi Folks,

I want to thank you.

Here is a screen capture of what I'm looking at:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b191/WabashShootist/Guns/hollowpointer/th_b59b46f3.jpg (http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b191/WabashShootist/Guns/hollowpointer/?action=view&current=b59b46f3.jpg)

(click the pic)

I have this posted on at least 10 boards, and there is a 50/50 split between opinions as to whether the double is at 6 o'clock or 1 o'clock. I initially thought it was at 1, but I agree now that it was at 6.

I'm also learning new terms. What is a "plug"? What is a "moving backer"?

I'm just a po' ol' squirrel hunter who is trying to make bulk ammo take squirrel at 100yds.

The bullets were reshaped first into a consistent roundnose configuration, then into a flatpoint, using D Rock's tool. This is why the target looks to have been hit with wadcutters.

The idea is to have a killing bullet, but one that is also accurate, and that means that, since for the majority of the way the bullet would be travelling subsonic (after 30yds or so), that it needed a shape better tailored to subsonic speeds. I also figured that getting there soon would be best, and the flat point is sort of a brake most noticable at supersonic speeds.

Also, this is really part of my attempt to get 1MOA with bulk HP.

Looks like I am shooting 1.048MOA or so.

Maybe this stuff just isn't capable of MOA accuracy? I do not know. I do know that this group was relatively easy after firing hundreds upon hundreds sorted by weight - only to have it recommended to me that I try sorting by case head thickness. That seems to have done it. I actually watched that bottom hole appear, and I wondered if I had hit it twice as I could see the white plastic backing through the hole as the woods were getting dark.

There were no other shooters; this is my private range. It maxes out at 110 yards or so, but is only really usable out to 100yds.

Thanks again, and additional comments are most welcome.

Josh

cavman
July 19, 2010, 11:55 PM
A plug is used to more clearly see the edge of the paper where the bullet passed through by magnifying the entrance point.
Place it in directly straight in. You can not to this with doubles however.
http://www.theshootersbox.com/store/images/scoring_plug_img1.jpg

There is also the Eagle Eye scoring gauge. This is also very nice in seeing the holes. It, too, uses magnification to see the holes. There are etches on the bottom lens that you place over your hole, then look into, and see if it touches a scoring ring or not.
http://championshooters.com/store/product.php?productid=541


Here is a nice write up on Eley ammo, arguably producers of the most accurate .22 ammo. In it Eley engineers say the base is more important than the nose. Also the priming is extremely important as well due to the high ratio of primer charge compared to powder in .22s compared to primer/powder charge in centerfire cartridges.
http://www.shootingtimes.com/ammunition/eley_101405/

yeti
July 20, 2010, 01:22 AM
I scored it as 49-1X also with the double at 6 o'clock.

unit91
July 20, 2010, 10:19 AM
Yeah I think 49 - 1X also. Here's how I saw it.

Owen
July 20, 2010, 11:25 AM
a moving backer is usually a roll of paper that moves behind the target. some of them move continuously, and some index after every shot. they are there to prove that the person shot as many rounds as they said they did. In some games, the 10 ring will be completely cut out after 5 or six shots, so certain types of people will put the remaining rounds into the backstop, and say all of thier shots are in that group, rather than risking a lower score. it's cheating, and the moving backer prevents it.

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