Savage 'Accustock' anyone?


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Uncle Mike
July 21, 2010, 08:48 AM
Have any of you fine folks with a new(er) Savage rifles sporting the Accustock been having any problems with accuracy relating to the stock itself?

We have had a couple customers complaining of accuracy problems with this stock....many are suggesting to remove the 'Accuwedge' from the stock and shoot it in the traditional, two action screw only, configuration.

Just asking, as I have ran across several threads on other forums that contain these complaints with the Accustock and advice for the correction of the problem. :)

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minnesotagunner
July 21, 2010, 03:16 PM
i dont have one but yes, on one of my go to forums. its almost always recommended to take it out or get a new stock completely.

Afy
July 21, 2010, 05:25 PM
+1 get a new stock. I love the rifles... hate the stock.

Big_E
July 21, 2010, 06:55 PM
Wow, every time I hear someone ask about a Savage people respond that they should get the Accustock models. I did not realize that some have had negative experiences with them.

I prefer semi-custom stocks anyway like McMillan but I have been looking at PDC Custom for my future target Savage.

Uncle Mike
July 21, 2010, 09:03 PM
Wow, every time I hear someone ask about a Savage people respond that they should get the Accustock models. I did not realize that some have had negative experiences with them.

And this is exactly why I ask the question.....

Some folks have 'problems' with anything new...but they have to have the new stuff.

Is this so called 'problem' actual, imaginative, or formed from idealistic beliefs that all Savage stocks are turds!?!

Uncle Mike
July 23, 2010, 02:34 PM
Bump-

Red State
July 23, 2010, 08:44 PM
UM,

I hope you get some more feedback on this. I have been excited about Savage ever since the Accustock came out, but now I am not so sure.

Uncle Mike
July 23, 2010, 09:00 PM
The Accustocked Savage rifles have been good so far, everyone with the exception of two, have delivered the expected Savage accuracy.

What I was up to was seeing if there had been a lot of complaints generated about these stocks, and IF the complaints were indeed legitimate.

I think the Accustock is super, but, like some have said, maybe the wedge causes minute accuracy problems...? Some guys on another forum were saying that they think the Accustock has done as good or better than their older standard stocked Savage rifles.

Maverick223
July 23, 2010, 09:14 PM
If it were me I would restock it simply because the stocks don't fit me that well (not horrible, but far from great), I don't like the recoil pads at all, and I am not fond of the aesthetics either. That said, I haven't noticed any problems with accuracy, but I have a big whompin' sample size of one, and limited experience with that one, so I can't say whether or not that is typical.

:)

Wickens
July 24, 2010, 03:00 AM
I have had five Savage --Accustock Rifles-- come through the shop this winter, in four different calibers, for new barrels--muzzle brakes ect.-- I haven't heard one complaint about accuracy because of the stock.

jcollins1007
July 27, 2010, 11:56 PM
does anybody know how much accuracy you are supposed to get from the accustock? I'm going to buy a Savage later this year and I'm not sure if I should get the accustock, or the wood stock which I prefer since it balances better.

Maverick223
July 28, 2010, 12:04 AM
does anybody know how much accuracy you are supposed to get from the accustock? I'm going to buy a Savage later this year and I'm not sure if I should get the accustock, or the wood stock which I prefer since it balances better.You will be more accurate with a stock that fits you well (notice that I say "you" not the rifle); therefore I would get the wood stock. The only problem that you might see from it is from changes in humidity causing expansion and contraction. Bed it well and I doubt you'll see any practical difference.

:)

jcollins1007
July 28, 2010, 12:15 AM
what is the best way to bed it then?

Maverick223
July 28, 2010, 12:21 AM
what is the best way to bed it then?The clean way...to let a competent gunsmith do it. :p If you want to do it yourself there are a multitude of threads that can offer better advice than I.

:)

Uncle Mike
July 28, 2010, 01:19 AM
The Accustock has the EXACT same dimensions as the wood stocks used on the sporter model rifles.

The fit will be the same...IF the stock of a 10/110 or 14/114 fit you, so will the Accustock!

The 'myth', if you call it that, of the 'wedge' causing accuracy problems has been said to be a story started by a select few folks that are in the position to sell a boat load of traditional stocks to those poor people that have the terribly inaccurate Accustock! WOW...!

Still other authorities say that the wedge adds a certain amount of pressure, or torque to the action and may be causing the phenomenon....hmmmmm!

The action screws draw the receiver into the stock, where the semi-rigid aluminum 'sides' of the stock insert are forced apart, effectively 'clamping' to the sides of the receiver.

The wedge is supposed to draw the receiver to the rear of the stock, allowing the recoil lug to be 100% against the stocks recoil shoulder, and then, once the wedge screw is tightened, hold the recoil lug there under pressure.

I can see IF the recoil shoulder in the stock was not machined square with respect to the receiver, receiver torque could occur, or IF the receiver was not drawn completely into the stock before the wedge screw was tightened, this would also cause receiver torque.....oh the things to ponder!

Anyway, the Accustock is a darn good stock, like some of the renowned Savage mechanics are saying, " if you think the wedge is causing your problems, take it out"...

Personally, I think a lot, not every case, but a lot of the problems may be caused by improper action screw and wedge torque procedures, since there IS a particular sequence the screws MUST be torqued and to exacting tightness.

Maverick223
July 28, 2010, 01:26 AM
The Accustock has the EXACT same dimensions as the wood stocks used on the sporter model rifles.

The fit will be the same...IF the stock of a 10/110 or 14/114 fit you, so will the Accustock!Well I suppose that takes care of that. Still best to get the one that balances better, though that isn't as big of a concern as the fit IMO.

:)

Uncle Mike
July 28, 2010, 01:45 AM
I think balance is important, for me anyways...I can't stand a rifle that is excessively butt heavy!

Fit and balance HAS to be there, and for me, the Savage sporter barreled rifles with the non-magnum barrels and Accustock balance and fit great.... but that is me, I like the non-magnum barreled Remington CDL balance and fit also, albeit the CDL's comb is somewhat too low for my likes, but so is the Accustock, so a Karston or Accu-Riser cheekpiece adorns most of my stuff.

Maverick223
July 28, 2010, 01:54 AM
Fit and balance HAS to be thereAgreed, though one could always add a bit of shot to the butt to make the AccuStock balance a bit further back. ;)

jcollins1007
July 28, 2010, 02:45 AM
So Uncle Mike, are you saying that there IS a problem with the Accustock, or is it just a rumor?

SN13
July 28, 2010, 03:16 AM
I have an accustock .270. 111FCNS.

I have ZERO accuracy problems shooting Hornady 130gr SST Ammo.

In fact, I've shot groups that were easily covered by a Dime.

Pics are as follows:

3shot group.

4shot group@3 o'clock before final adjustment to X for two more shots.

My rifle.

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss116/SN13/DSC07914.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss116/SN13/DSC07888.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss116/SN13/DSCF1590Large.jpg

corky52
July 28, 2010, 11:12 PM
Hi all, I have the 10PC in .308 with the Accustock. I have had zero issues with accuracy. Like Uncle Mike says, there is a sequence and torque for the action screws and wedge screw. It makes a difference. Is it the best system ever? Maybe not, but it's a good solid system that works well when adjusted and torqued properly. There are probably some lemons out there, like anything else. I bet that Savage would take care of any defect. I haven't seen one, and have several friends that use the Accustock. Just my .02.

Regards

Charlie

:)

jcollins1007
July 29, 2010, 12:24 AM
Yeah, I'm just waiting for them to put one in a wood stock. I love the 114 American. My local store has one in 270. It's gorgeous, and has the accu-trigger, the main reason to by a savage in my opinion.

Uncle Mike
July 29, 2010, 03:09 AM
So Uncle Mike, are you saying that there IS a problem with the Accustock, or is it just a rumor?

I personally do NOT think there is a problem with the Accustock, just some nervousness over something new. We have sold a boat load of the Accustocked rifles, and out of all of them sold, only two customers have complained...but they kept the rifle and nothing has been heard from them since.

Yeah, I'm just waiting for them to put one in a wood stock. I love the 114 American. My local store has one in 270. It's gorgeous, and has the accu-trigger, the main reason to by a savage in my opinion.

Wouldn't it be great if Savage plopped an aluminum block in their 14/114 wood stocks!?!

Something like the TC Icon has.

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