Colt Det Sp Holster


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196pc
July 24, 2010, 07:03 PM
I would like to get a holster for my Colt. The old S.D. Myers #38 detective holster is what I want. Can anyone direct me to a company that makes this style?

thanks.....ron

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Sam1911
July 24, 2010, 09:56 PM
Got any pictures? I can't find anything on it.

Maybe a description? IWB, OWB? Belt scabbard or slide? Pancacke style? High-ride? Thumb-break?

My first bet would be Bell Charter Oak (http://www.bellcharteroakholsters.com/).

They make a lot of what I'd think of as "old fashioned" holsters, especially for revolvers, and might have something a lot like what you're looking for.

Old Fuff
July 24, 2010, 09:58 PM
You may be in big trouble boy... :what:

Cuz' in this age of poly-mer pistols and large cap magazines, (not to mention plastic holsters) you and I may be the only ones that know what an S.D. Myres # 38 rig is... :D

Most of what was left of Sam's company was bought up by the El Paso Saddlery Co. (www.epsaddlery.com), and that included some if not all of Myres' patterns and dies. They might be able to help you.

If not, come back at me and I'll see if I can find someone else that makes something similar.

Old Fuff
July 24, 2010, 10:07 PM
Sam.

I don't do pictures on THR because it's to much #&&!! trouble. However if this thread gets stuck for a picture I'll send one to you (or whoever) as an e-mail attachment (which is much easier then dealing with "Da' Road" and you or whoever can post it.

The holster in question is for Detective Special's or S&W M&P snubbies. Strong side, with about 30 degrees backward slant. The trigger guard is enclosed, but there is a finger slot in the pouch. Think 1920's and 30's.

196pc
July 25, 2010, 01:30 AM
I'm a retired LEO and carry a Colt Det Special 2nd generation made in 1957. Guess I kinda dated myself with this request!

The Lone Haranguer
July 25, 2010, 08:30 AM
Strong side, with about 30 degrees backward slant.
Butt to the rear? How would that work? :confused:

The present day El Paso Saddlery is a sort of descendant of Myres. Perhaps they have ... uh ... whatever it is the OP is looking for. ;)

Friendly, Don't Fire!
July 25, 2010, 08:33 AM
I had C5 Leather (BigJim) in Kansas City, KS make me up a really nice IWB rig, belt and two magazine carriers - EXCELLENT WORKMANSHIP and he will work with you on what you need!

www.c5leather.com/

The guy is really honest and does his best to keep you happy!

Old Fuff
July 25, 2010, 09:50 AM
Strong side, with about 30 degrees backward slant.

Butt forward/muzzle pointed toward the rear. Sometimes called the "FBI angle."

I'm a retired LEO and carry a Colt Det Special 2nd generation made in 1957. Guess I kinda dated myself with this request!

So what? Your selection of a sidearm is excellent, (I often carry one myself) and the holster has passed the test of time. Would you like to guess how it was that I knew what a No. 38 was? ;)

Older doesn't necessarily mean, "obsolete."

Sam1911
July 25, 2010, 10:12 AM
Thumb-break? Snap-strap?

Trigger guard covered, but with a slot so you can still get your finger in there? I've seen some like that.

Sort of like the holster in the middle, here?

http://www.epsaddlery.com/images/Product/medium/87.jpg

TexasBill
July 27, 2010, 08:30 AM
It's not S.D. Myres, but have you looked at the Bianchi 5BH or 5BHL?

Old Fuff
July 27, 2010, 09:57 AM
Sam:

No safety strap on stock holster, but one could be special ordered.

Take the holster on the left in your picture, eliminate the back-flap and strap around the pouch (as well as the safety strap), mostly cover the trigger guard, but cut a slot for the trigger finger as pictured in the middle rig, and scale the resulting design to fit a mid-frame snubby...

And you have it.

gun guy
August 21, 2010, 08:46 PM
http://www.huntercompany.com/hunter.html i have several, used one to place 4th with a diamondback in a recent IDPA match. Not sure how much the holster had to do with it, but it held the weapon and was easy enough to draw from.

Sam1911
August 21, 2010, 09:06 PM
gun guy, that doesn't look at all like an S.D. Meyers #38 as it has been described here. Are you sure?

Old Fuff
August 22, 2010, 11:13 AM
You're right Sam, that still isn't it. The #1130 holster pictured in the link comes closer, but the Myres #38 holster did not have a strap around the pouch because the belt loop was sewn on the back, and normally the rig didn't have a safety strap unless special ordered. The holster was positioned on the belt for a strong side draw with the so-called "FBI slant."

Mizar
August 28, 2010, 04:05 AM
Sorry for the late reply - I just saw this thread. Is this the holster in question?

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/5678/detsplandholster004.jpg

The picture is taken from S&W forum's member KSCowboy. The holster maker is another member of the said forum - Wyatt Burp.

Boris

Vern Humphrey
August 28, 2010, 12:57 PM
I make my own holsters, and this is one I make for the Detective Special. As pictured, it is rigged as a "tuckable" but by attaching the belt loops directly to the holster it becomes an ordinary IWB. And by taking the belt loops and straps off, it becomes a pancake-style OWB.

Cosmoline
August 28, 2010, 02:03 PM
Found one for sale right here:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=187076369

Not cheap! But it's the real deal

And this looks to be another one:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=186819561

Old Fuff
August 28, 2010, 06:02 PM
Yup, that's a genuine #38.... ;)

Mizar
August 29, 2010, 04:56 AM
196pc, the holster maker from my previous post - Wyatt Burp is also a member of ColtForum. He seems to specialise on classic revolver holsters and the other members there are pleased with the quality he is offering.

Boris

rWt
September 13, 2010, 11:32 AM
These holsters were made before the underlug and ramp front sight version of the DS was introduced. Do you think the later DS' would fit properly in these older holsters?

Here's a H.H.Heiser rendition for a DS.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v727/rWt/IMG_0568.jpg

JoelSteinbach
September 30, 2010, 03:01 PM
I recently purchased a Gould & Goodrich Model B802-2 Molded Leather real comfortable not very expensive.

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