Ghillie suit for hunting


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Greg Koziol
July 27, 2010, 01:43 PM
thinking of making one. One for winter time, and one for falltime. The goal is to make a jacket with hood, and pants with hood and something to cover my rifle... and that could snap over my existing hunting clothing. I've heard of people using jute and burlap, I was wondering if there is anything that would fray less and is more water resistant, if it rains or snows a little i don't want to be a soggy mess. It has to be durable material. Any ideas for material and for the shell would be appreciated. The shell would need to be light so it can jsut snap right over existing hunting clothing or whatever clothing i am wearing easily this way i can take it on and off easily for example to use the bathroom

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Greg Koziol
July 27, 2010, 01:59 PM
Nevermind, eveyrone. found a few fabrice wholesalers that sell all types of fabrice by the yard from synthetics to natural. think of buying gore-tex or something similar if i can get one in white and find a die for it

augustino
July 27, 2010, 11:30 PM
Here in Tennessee you've got to wear a sufficient amount of ORANGE to be legal and SAFE.

I'm afraid that if I were to wear a guille (however it's spelled) I would be hit by a bullet from a hunter that thought he caught bigfoot OR hit with a tremendous fine by a Game Officer for non compliance of the orange laws.

rjrivero
July 28, 2010, 12:02 AM
I use a ghillie suit for bow hunting. It's quite effective. I prefer it to a blind because I can move depending on wind without muss or fuss. The mobility works out really well for moving along tree lines. Jute is a fine material for a ghillie, but gets warm. You won't be able to make a "waterproof" ghillie. Just make it big and wear water proof gear underneath it if you are going to be out in the wet weather.

They start to stink if you don't hang them to dry. ;)

DIM
July 28, 2010, 12:45 AM
And don't forget to put hunter orange over it ;-)

Greg Koziol
July 28, 2010, 03:32 AM
Here in Tennessee you've got to wear a sufficient amount of ORANGE to be legal and SAFE.

I'm afraid that if I were to wear a guille (however it's spelled) I would be hit by a bullet from a hunter that thought he caught bigfoot OR hit with a tremendous fine by a Game Officer for non compliance of the orange laws.
Laws like that are so stupid and are really dehbilitating to our economy. So stupid. We have that here in new york but only in the more populated areas. In the catskill and adirondack mountains I don't have to wear any orange by law. The areas I hunt are deep in the woods... the darelicts stay away from those areas.

Greg Koziol
July 28, 2010, 03:34 AM
I use a ghillie suit for bow hunting. It's quite effective. I prefer it to a blind because I can move depending on wind without muss or fuss. The mobility works out really well for moving along tree lines. Jute is a fine material for a ghillie, but gets warm. You won't be able to make a "waterproof" ghillie. Just make it big and wear water proof gear underneath it if you are going to be out in the wet weather.

They start to stink if you don't hang them to dry. ;)
Thats exactly why I thought about getting one.. for bear and deer hunting this fall, its sort like a portable blind, you can disappear into any area you go, just gotta watch out for the snaps.

Greg Koziol
July 28, 2010, 03:35 AM
And don't forget to put hunter orange over it ;-)
I'll probably just wear my orange hat, cause I wanna have this ghillie as an emergency incase there was ever WROL and terrorists invaded our country. Or if thugs from my previous jobs working in nightclub security ever tried to come to my property i could slip my ghillie on and dissapear

Steve C
July 28, 2010, 04:59 AM
The utility of a Gillie suit would depend upon what you are hunting. Deer and elk don't see color, They alert on smell, movement and sound, so blaze orange is no different than any other color you may wear. Camouflage doesn't work well on people who are 100% color blind either.

Birds on the other hand see color so if you are hunting turkey or dove camouflage works.

Loyalist Dave
July 28, 2010, 08:39 AM
Folks the true ghillie suit is for defeating the eyesight of people. A ghillie is a game manager of the Scottish Highlands, and they would wear clothing to blend into the brush so they could hide and catch poachers. Snipers today use them to avoid being seen as they hunt other snipers. They work well when going after turkey, or for dove or waterfowl, but the level you need to break up your image when hunting game is less than vs. a human, as long as you stay motionless or move slow when hunting animals with color vision.

Sorry but a goretex ghillie suit won't work, for the simple reasons that gortex (and other synthetics) and brush makes lots of noise. If you sew gortex strips onto say a jumpsuit, the seams where the thread penetrates the goretex will leak. Ghillie suits simulate foliage, so if you are making a winter one because there is much more brown where you live, fine, but if you are talking snow, you should simply buy snow cammo from a military surplus store. Yes there are folks who make ghillie suits by gluing cloth strips onto clothing with Shoe Goo, but they also tend their suits often, replacing lost "garnish". Replacing goretex on a regular basis is going to be expensive. I prefer to sew the garnish to the garment.

I have made several for turkey hunters, and never had a problem with burlap. Ghillie suits are not for comfort, so you simply make them much larger to allow for the owner to wear something warm and dry under them. I don't use nearly the amount of burlap I would if I was making one for use in the Corps, as it isn't necessary. Further, "classic" ghillie suits have canvas sewn to the front of the legs, waist, and chest, as well as the elbows, to reinforce them, as they are intended mostly for prone shooting or prone hiding positions. When I make one for a turkey hunter, I don't add the canvas, and cover the front as well or better than the back, for the hunter is often shooting from a sitting or kneeling position, and the turkey is being called in from the front.

LD

Greg Koziol
July 28, 2010, 08:55 PM
Loyalist Dave, I think i'm just gonna buy one. There are plenty of other fabrices besides gore-tex i was thinkin of using like rip stop nylon i was in a rush when i originally posted that. I want either to buy or make one that is synthetic because where i hunt there is lots of rain/snow and i don't want to have a suit that will soak it up like a sponge.

Enachos
July 28, 2010, 09:10 PM
You've been looking at the Cheaper Than Dirt catalog haven't you? :neener:

redneckdan
July 31, 2010, 12:09 AM
The idea behind a ghillie suit is to break up the outline of the human form. The suit is a basis for addition of natural vegatation to truely blend in the with environment...which sometimes needs to be changed every couple hundred yards or so.

WTBguns10kOK
July 31, 2010, 07:53 PM
I'll make sure I shoot something in my jeans and T-shirt this fall just for all guys who spend lots of time and money on ghillie suits and other camo.

Robert
July 31, 2010, 11:14 PM
None of the synthetic fabrics I have seen do anywhere near as good a job as burlap. And there is no need to make two, unless you just really want to. You can tie in natural vegetation and spray paint your suit to make it fit changing environs.

The store bought ghillie suit are worthless. Plain and simple. They are built out of the cheapest materials available and will not last 10 mins in the field. On a real ghillie there is no reason to tie in the front of the suit as most of your time will be spent crawling around on your belly and anything tied in there will be ripped off.

There are several places that sell the required supplies to build a top notch ghillie. You will need lots and lots or burlap in various colors to match your local surroundings. Canvas panels can be made out of an old "A" bag but it has to be the canvas style. These panels should be placed on the knees, elbows and the entire chest and front leg areas to keep wear to a minimum. You will also need heavy netting that you can sew or glue over your pants and jacket to tie in your burlap.

A ghillie suit is hot and heavy on the best of days. They stink like something died and are a PITA to keep from getting all manner of crap tangled up in. Getting it wet would be the least of my concerns. And the only people they benefit are actual snipers and bow hunters. Though none of the bow hunters I know use them.

Averageman
August 1, 2010, 12:44 AM
A couple of notes on Ghillie suits.
A Gun Sock makes a great base for your rifle, just thread the burlap starnds and peices through the gun socks weave.
These are seasonable so you will need several.
Double up your cloth at the knees and elbows and wear knee and elbow pads. A piece of a sleeping mat for your belly and chest area is very helpful too.
Never, ever, ever come near a spark, match or open flame while wearing one. As a matter of fact once you have it built spray some fire retardant on it immeadiatly.
These are so effective if used correctly it is amazing. I have had well trained Regular Army NonComs step over me on patrol while wearing mine.

Kernel
August 1, 2010, 12:58 PM
Go to a Salvation Army store and buy up old chino type dress pants. Use the fabric to make your ghillie. Typically, they’re 100% cotton or a cotton poly blend, washable, lighter than burlap, dirt cheap, and don’t stink. The colors are perfect for any season and terrain; since they come in tans, sands, browns, whites, blacks, grays, and greens.

I use strips tore off my old worn out work pants (L.L. Bean, “Double L“ brand, pleated front, natural fit, wrinkle resistant - to be more precise than needed :neener:) to augment the camo on my pop-up blinds.

To give you an idea of what I’m talking about and some of the colors available:

http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/22819?parentCategory=9673&feat=9673-tn&cat4=503682

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