Trijicon ACOG 3x Optic


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JW74
July 28, 2010, 02:28 AM
Hello, I have a question about the value of a Trijicon ACOG 3x scope. My brother's friend just brought one back from Afghanistan. It was given to him by one of the guys in the supply dept over there. It's military issue, and he said it has some Christian passage engraved on it or something of that nature? It has only light use and is in excellent shape. The soldier it belongs too was wondering what the value of it may be? Thanks for any help.

-JW

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Guns and more
July 28, 2010, 10:54 AM
It was given to him by one of the guys in the supply dept over there. It's military issue
Let me translate. "My brother's friend has this stolen ACOG."

kestak
July 28, 2010, 11:35 AM
Greetings,

Firstly, ACOG is not made in Africa. It is made in the GREAT US OF A!!!!!
Secondly, this ACOG, if given by the supply guy, is most probably a stolen US property.
Thirdly, there is no passage engraved but a reference to a blibical verse is engraved. Now that the politically correct class took over, the new ACOGs for our military is no longer having those.
And lastly, now that you know that you have probably stolen US property, I would try to straighten it up. If you get caugh, Federal prisons are not nice....


Thank you

JW74
July 28, 2010, 04:44 PM
To both above posters. It wasn't stolen but thanks for jumping to that conclusion. How would I be going to prison for asking what it is worth? I'm not buying it. Have either of you been in the service by the way, let alone completed 3 back to back to back tours? Just curious...

As for why he has it, is because of the reference to the biblical verse. All of those sights were shelved over there.

idoono
July 28, 2010, 09:04 PM
I paid 550 for mine from someone who used it over there. He paid for his own so he woould have one.

idoono

JW74
July 28, 2010, 09:21 PM
I paid 550 for mine from someone who used it over there. He paid for his own so he woould have one.

idoono
Thanks idoono. I will pass that along.

wyocarp
July 28, 2010, 09:24 PM
If you buy a new one here in the states, you will pay at least $900-$1,000

sargas23
July 29, 2010, 10:00 AM
You can't buy ACOG from Trijicon directly unless you are military or in law enforcement, but you can buy those scopes off of Gunbroker and other websites. That might be where some of the confusion comes from. If the scope is marked US Property, then there might be some question about legality. If not, I wouldn't worry about it due to the fact that with enough cash, you can buy it second-hand on the internet.

Gunbroker prices can be ridiculous though, but I think ACOG scopes will run a minimum of 1K up to 4K!

kestak
July 29, 2010, 10:09 AM
Greetings,

If the scope has a US property on it, I don't see how it could be legal. If not, it may be a soldier who bought one and brought it with him and sold it.

TA33 models runs between 900-1000$.
TA11 models runs around 1100-1200$.

2 questions:
- If a soldier reported the lost during combat and it has been really lost and another soldier (or private) found it and brought it back. What is the legal status of the material?
- Did really the military removed ALL ACOGs marked with verses references from the combat zones? I read about the verses when it was reported int he news, but I did not see anything making our soldiers removing the equipment from their guns. As we all know, it would take a lot of time to replace the scope and I HATE to think our soldiers had to go back to iron sights because of those SOB Liberals....

Thank you
P.S.: SOB does not describe my feelings about those liberals. It would be more lining them up and shooting them as traitors.

Gordon
August 7, 2010, 06:52 PM
The ones with scripture ref were "removed" from inventory and privately purchased ones with the scripture "not authorized" , so says a First sarge from the Stryker Bat. I know.Since they had no Dremel tools they were told to scrap the US property ones. They are around now and I am looking for one to collect!

smapdiage9
August 9, 2010, 09:05 PM
- If a soldier reported the lost during combat and it has been really lost and another soldier (or private) found it and brought it back. What is the legal status of the material?

A private in the Army is a soldier.

All unit property the government owns is accounted for by a hand receipt holder. Responsibility for maintaining accountability of property is further delegated down to an armorer, who absolves himself of responsibility by using an arms room card (temporary hand receipt) to issue out the ACOGs to the soldiers who are primarily responsible for them. It is possible that someone can lose one in working order and have it declared a field/combat loss, though entirely unlikely that they wouldn't also be facing at the minimum a bill for the cost of the ACOG minus a percentage of depreciation, and at the most UCMJ action for failure to maintain their equipment.

It is also possible, though also unlikely, that somewhere along the line in the logistics chain somebody pilfered one and declared it a loss. Again, unless you're talking about a commander who just doesn't care about supply discipline and who likes paying for equipment he didn't lose, this probably isn't too common.

The bottom line, and in answer to your question, is that any property the government purchased belongs to the government until the government decides that it doesn't. Even if someone lost it and paid the cost minus depreciation back to the government, THE GOVERNMENT STILL OWNS THE PROPERTY.

If I lost an ACOG and paid the government back for it, and then later found the item and returned it to the government, I might be able to get my money back. But there is no scenario that ends up with me legally owning the item.

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