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someone knows what kind of alloy the Norinco M97 barrel is made of ? :banghead:

[ReloaderFred]

I don't know what the alloy of the steel is, but I do know that they are holding up pretty well to hard use in Cowboy Action Shooting, if that helps. Norinco has improved their product over the years through much prodding by the importers, so I would assume that the currently manufactured guns are of sufficient quality to last.

Hope this helps.

Fred

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Thanks Fred ! :P , the reason is becuse i ask`t a smith to do a choke work on the gun, but he won`t do it unless he knows what alloy there is, and he could`nt find anything either , and that sucks ! but i guess it`s a safety thing so the whole thing don`t blow up!

[ReloaderFred]

I would suggest an e-mail to IAC, the U.S. importer of the Norinco Model 97's. They were instrumental in getting the quality brought up to their standards, so they probably have the specifications, if they'll share them with you. I don't know how to contact them off the top of my head, but perhaps a search will turn up a link.

Hope this helps.

Fred

[ReloaderFred]

I found the e-mail address for customer service for IAC. It's: customerservice@iacwestern.com

Give them a try and see if they can answer your question.

The link to their website is: http://www.iacshotguns.com/dev/

Hope this helps.

Fred

[JNewell]

...or find another smith. I just had a barrel done by Mike Orlen in Amherst, MA, based on recommendations at another forum. Beautiful work, lightning fast, very attractively priced. I couldn't recommend Mr. Orlen more highly.

[ReloaderFred]

He's in Sweden, so I don't know what all his options are.........

Fred

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thanks Fred ! your the MAN ! :P haha yeah that would have been nice to send the whole thing to U.S, but unfortunley i think the prize tag would have Blown my purse to hell ! :P
the funny thing is: i spoke whit Coyote Cap himself about this , and he didn`t have a clue ! Now that is almost spooky becuse he went down to china himself to inform the chinese that the quality suckt on the guns they made !

[ReloaderFred]

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There were several who have gone to China in regards to the Model 97 shotguns. I know for a fact that Lou Smith made three trips, and there are others who have gone, also.

I'd try IAC and they should know what the alloy is. The question will be if they will share it? I don't know the answer to that one, but it's worth a try.

Hope this helps.

Fred

[Red Cent]

CCap must have been pulling your chain. I have a Chinese copy of Coyote Cap's 93/97. It has screw in chokes. From working on the innards of the Win m97 and the 93/97, they seem to be the same. Besides, your gunsmith should be able to conduct a simple Brinell test. I can tell you they ain't that hard. The only other reason for caution by the gunsmith would be a chrome plated barrel and I don't know of any. I would think if it is blue, bore and thread the darn thing.

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got message from IAC "Sorry, I don’t have the faintest idea. But it is pretty though stuff, the same used by the military" , maby i just ask him to do that Brinell test Red talks about, i wounder why we didnt do that in the first place ?, i could post som pics of the 97 but i havent figure it out how you do it, im to dumb i guess :S, could someone give me a hand please ! :D

[ReloaderFred]

Norinco makes all the firearms for the Chinese Army (and insurgents all around the world), so IAC's guess is probably correct. The Brinnel Hardness test will show the hardness of the material, but won't show the alloy.

I've seen several of the Norinco Model 97's with chokes installed, so I'm not sure why your gunsmith is being so cautious. I know it works, because I've seen them.

Hope this helps.

Fred

[gunnie]

..."i wounder why we didnt do that in the first place ?"...

Shopping results for metal hardness tester for sale

HARTIP 1500 Portable Metal Hardness Tester
$1,115.00 new - www.PaintGages.com
HARTIP 1800 Portable Metal Hardness Tester
$1,575.00 new - www.NDTzone.com
TH170 Metal Hardness Tester
$1,599.00 new - Albuquerque Industrial

maybe the price price of the tool?

gunnie

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thanks Gunnie but i would be suprized if the smith don`t have this kind of things in the arsenal already ! :P