Questions about starting a reloading set


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Reneage Riot
July 31, 2010, 08:51 PM
My dad has a single stage set up but I need to get the parts to reload 9mm, so I'm thinking I'll just set up my own set, so tell me what I need/dont need here.

I think I'll start with the Lee Classic Turret press,

http://www.cabelas.com/link-12/product/0044122216337a.shtml?cmCat=perf&rid=0987654321&cm_mmc=Performics-_-CSE-_-GoogleBaseUSA-_-0044122216337a&mr:trackingCode=D952E7CC-958E-DF11-A0C8-002219318F67&mr:referralID=NA

how is this not considered progressive, whats the difference?

http://www.midwayusa.com/browse/BrowseProducts.aspx?pageNum=1&tabId=1&categoryId=8338&categoryString=9315***731***702***8345***
Search for reloading dies, whats the extra die included in the 4 set, do i need it or can i just get the 3 die set?

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=283141
Universal shellholder

Bullet molds, any suggestions? 2 or 6 bullets molds?
http://www.midwayusa.com/browse/BrowseProducts.aspx?pageNum=1&tabId=1&categoryId=9253&categoryString=9315***685***8657***9247***

Anything else I should think about or know? My dad has the parts to reload .38 sp, .357 mag, 45, .223, and more, I assume all of those will work with the lee press.

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Reneage Riot
July 31, 2010, 08:55 PM
also whats the most popular powder to use?

HOWARD J
July 31, 2010, 09:04 PM
Don't you think it might be a smart idea to talk to your dad?
I'l bet he knows a lot of answers........................

ranger335v
July 31, 2010, 09:17 PM
Given that your dad has some tools too I'm sure you will have access to the small stuff, loading blocks, tumber, scales, measure, etc. ??


I think I'll start with the Lee Classic Turret press,

Excellant choice. Inexpensive, strong, and a good bit faster than a single stage press. The heads are inexpensive enough to actually have them set up for each cartridge you load for and they can be swapped out in seconds without tools.


how is this not considered progressive, whats the difference?

It's an auto indexing turret press, it moves a single case through the various steps to completion, requiring three to five pulls per round. Progressives produce a round with each pull of the lever.


Search for reloading dies, whats the extra die included in the 4 set, do i need it or can i just get the 3 die set?

The fourth die is a dedicated crimper with a "post sizing" carbide ring that insures your largest cartridges will still chamber even if they might be oversized. The ring has no effect on normal size cartridges so it's just insurance if you happen to get some thick cases combined with some oversized bullets.


Universal shellholder

Lee's Delux die sets include the correct shell holder.


Bullet molds, any suggestions? 2 or 6 bullets molds?

Well, six cavities are actually a good bit more than three times as fast as a two cavity. I've had good results with the TL356-124-TC 9mm Luger (356 Diameter) 124 Grain Tumble Lube Truncated Cone. Lee's liquid Allox lube works fine on it.


If you want to get maximum loading speed you will likely want to add a Lee Double Disc powder measure too.

Your dad's shell holders should work and his dies are likely the common 7/8" x 14 threads so they will all work fine on your new press. Ask him - or check your loading manual - for suitable powders.

Hondo 60
July 31, 2010, 09:20 PM
1. A progressive press has 3 or 4 dies & rotates the cases so that you're doing 1 operation on 3 or 4 cases every time you pull the handle.

2. In the 4 die sets there's a deprimer/resizer - Powder through expander - Bullet seater - Factory crimp die.
Most people say that the FCD does a better job with a roll crimp than if you seat & crimp in one operation.

3. I don't cast, so I don't know about the molds.

I hope this helps!

qajaq59
August 1, 2010, 11:27 AM
I think that a copy of The ABCs of Loading would be a useful tool for you. And it might save you some money if read before you start buying equipment. There are a lot of small details in there that will really be helpful.

RustyFN
August 1, 2010, 11:46 AM
I think the Lee classic turret is a great starter press. It's also a great press for an experienced reloader. I think the best deal on the Lee classic turret is at www.kempfgunshop.com because it comes with the dies but no scale. That allows you to buy a decent scale without having to buy the Lee scale too. You will also want to go with the $22 upgrade for the pro auto disk measure and both safety primes. As far as powder I would recommend that you try a couple from your manual with a medium burn rate, start at the recommended starting charge and work it up. I personally like Titegroup and WST. A lot of people think TG is too fast for a beginner and WST doesn't have a lot of load data for 9mm.

UltimateReloader
August 1, 2010, 02:54 PM
The classic turret is a good starter press, but since you can learn on your dad's equipment, I would *consider* a progressive since you'll be loading 9mm. If you shoot a lot, 200 pulls of the handle for a box of ammo can get really old really fast (compared to 50 pulls per box). It depends on your mechanical abilities, access to your dad's equipment and brain, and how much you shoot.

If you want to see how progressive presses work, here's some HD videos to give you an idea:
Loadmaster Loading 9mm (HD) (http://ultimatereloader.com/?p=660)
RCBS Bullet Feeder on Dillon XL-650 9mm (HD) (http://ultimatereloader.com/?p=674)
Hornady LNL-AP 9mm part II (HD) (http://ultimatereloader.com/?p=621)
Hornady LNL-AP 9mm part I (HD) (http://ultimatereloader.com/?p=618)

Here's some articles that may also be helpful:
Handgun Reloading 101 (http://ultimatereloader.com/?page_id=35)
Pistol Bullet Basics (http://ultimatereloader.com/?page_id=128)
Pistol Primers (http://ultimatereloader.com/?page_id=161)
Pistol Cartridge Basics (http://ultimatereloader.com/?page_id=57)
Pistol Reloading Basics (http://ultimatereloader.com/?page_id=43)
Getting Started (http://ultimatereloader.com/?page_id=191)
Before selecting a press (http://ultimatereloader.com/?page_id=193)
Types of presses (http://ultimatereloader.com/?page_id=199)
Choosing a press (http://ultimatereloader.com/?page_id=305)
What you need to load pistol (http://ultimatereloader.com/?page_id=332)

A couple great choices for powder would be Winchester 231 / Hodgdon HP-38 (same powder), or Alliant Bullseye.

Hope that helps!
-Gavin

rcmodel
August 1, 2010, 03:25 PM
Only suggestion I have is start out with a two-cavity bullet mold to learn casting.

A six-cavity mold is only faster if you can get good bullets out of all six cavities every time.

Until you learn about casting, proper alloys, proper alloy & mold temperature, etc,
you won't!

rc

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