It occurred to me that there are probably going to be a lot of "commemorative 100 year anniversary" 1911 pistols coming out next year.
I'm sure most will be investment grade in name only, but surely there will be some that will warrant a higher price and keeping as a safe queen.
Anyone agree/disagree? Or have an idea of how to suss out the ones most likely to gain in value?
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August 2, 2010, 11:56 AM
If you look at the history of other commemoratives that were made to be collectables you'll find that they take a long, long time to increase in value, and often they don't. In the case of the 1911 pistol I suspect that the only one(s) that may go up much of all - at least in the near term - are those made by the original manufacture, which is Colt. If you are looking at a longer term investment I'd spend the money on an original 1911 pistol, in the best possible condition that I could afford, and I'd do it now - not later. The 100 year anniversary mark will lift these most of all.
August 2, 2010, 04:29 PM
I do not believe limited edition firearms such as the commemoratives are good investments. It's a pure marketing ploy. I have not kept up with Sig guns but at one time they offered the "flavor of the month" Sig. Few if any of those guns preserved any premium in subsequent years.
August 2, 2010, 08:18 PM
None of them will appreciate in value except maybe the Colt. Even then it will be your great grandchildren that like likely garner the meek dividends.
I maybe wrong as it is hard to speculate on collectibles. But that is were I'm betting my dollar and donut.
August 2, 2010, 08:25 PM
My only reference on gun values has a section on commemoratives and almost without question the Colt 1911 limited editions of the '60s, 70's and up are worth around $1000 give or take, in unfired contion. If I'm not mistaken that's the approximate price of the current Colt production models.
Normal production models of the period (Series 70 gvmts for example) are worth about the same unfired, with box, etc and cost less to begin with.
August 2, 2010, 08:38 PM
I agree with pretty much everything said above.
Colt has stated they are going to make as many copies of their basic anniversary model, the O1911ANVIII, as people will order from 11/10 to 11/11. You want one, they will make it. The cased/engraved ANVI and ANVII models are a different beast, are going to cost quite a bit, and at some distant point in the future the ANVII model might be worth a little bit more. But almost certainly less than if you take it's 2011 purchase price and put that amount of cash in a good stock mutual fund instead.
So eventually, it's going to be like the Harley 2003 anniversary models. There will be so many more of them out in the marketplace that they will actually end up being worth LESS than the standard production model from the prior or later year. Also, the roll marks on them are distinctly un-attractive, and the finish entirely wrong for a 1911-period gun. The smarter folks I know are putting away an ANIB O1911 or O1918 WWI repro as the definitive period-correct colt reproduction.
If Colt would have made it detail-correct to the 1911 style commercial guns, put on a correct finish and then limited it to say 5,000 or 8,000 guns, they would have had a winner. I would expect in the year to two after the anniversary models end, you should be able to get them in the secondary market at about a 20% discount to their dealer price. I'll probably pick one up then. If it's ANIB, I'll leave it as such, or if it's got a little wear on it I'll make it a shooter. But I won't be paying dealer cost for one as a collectible, that's for sure.
August 2, 2010, 08:58 PM
Look at the 50th Ruger Super Blackhawk. I just saw one that states it listed below dealer cost.