45 Schofield in a 45 Colt


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BullSkater
August 2, 2010, 11:06 AM
I have a Taurus 450T. It has a 2 inch ported barrel which makes it hard to get much velocity from it. Also the velocity varies about 100 fps when holding it up or down before firing. Was thinking about loading some
45 Schofield brass with a 225 grain hp bullet as a general purpose carry load. Anyone know a source for Lead HP bullets in the 225gr range? If not I may use the Speer 250 JHP. It works good if I can get it up to 800 fps.

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Red Cent
August 2, 2010, 05:42 PM
Sift. :)

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ArchAngelCD
August 3, 2010, 05:02 AM
It has a 2 inch ported barrel which makes it hard to get much velocity from it. Also the velocity varies about 100 fps when holding it up or down before firing.
If you're having trouble getting good velocity from .45 Colt brass in that revolver using Schofield brass will only make it worse. As for the loads being position sensitive, that's the powder you are using. What powder are you loading with? If you change powders you might be able to eliminate the problem.

BullSkater
August 3, 2010, 01:01 PM
I am useing 240 to 265 grain lead and jacketed bullets. Powders include Bullseye, Tightgroup, Trail Boss, 231, Unique(new), Power Pistol, Lil Gun, 296, and 4227. I like power Pistol and Unique the best.

mrkubota
August 4, 2010, 12:17 PM
You could try some of the IMR TrailBoss too... it'll give you good case fill and velocity around what you're seeking in the schoefield brass.

Sport45
August 4, 2010, 01:25 PM
Powders include Bullseye, Tightgroup, 231, Unique(new), Power Pistol, Lil Gun, 296, and 4227.

I don't think I'd be using 296, Lil'Gun, or 4227 in a .45 Colt Taurus revolver. :uhoh:


What is your load and velocity range with Unique under a heavy (250-260gr) lead bullet?

I agree with the Trail Boss suggestion too.

BullSkater
August 4, 2010, 02:44 PM
Most of my load data comes from the powder company load charts. No +P loads because the gun is so light. The 255 swc bullet runs about 625 to 800 fps with Powerpistol and Unique. Trail Boss loads stay under 700 fps and feel like they have more recoil. The problem I have with the large 45 colt brass is depending on how you hold the gun before firing you get a 100 fps velocity difference.
I just found a sight that sells 45 special brass. This may be the best direction for me.
http://www.cowboy45special.com/cowboy45brass.html

ArchAngelCD
August 6, 2010, 10:00 PM
I'm surprised at some of the powders you are claiming to be position sensitive. I know for sure W231 isn't position sensitive in the .45 Colt because I use W231 (among others) in the .45 Colt. From what I know of Unique it isn't position sensitive either.

To achieve your goals, of the powders you listed Power Pistol is probably the best choice although I would (and do) use W231 or HS-6.

BullSkater
August 7, 2010, 12:14 PM
I just chronographed some Unique in my new Schofield cases. The loads still varied 100 fps when holding up and down. 2400 and Power Pistol only varied about 50 fps. If I load hot loads for my Blackhawk I can get all these powders to stop being position sensitive.

sourdough44
August 7, 2010, 02:02 PM
I use Titegroup with a home cast 45(acp) 200 grn 'TL' bullet in the Schofield case. I think my charge is in the 5.7+ grain area. It's near the top of the Hodgdon data but I shoot them in a Ruger 45 colt anyway.

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