Ruger LCP 9mm ???


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okc-zee
August 7, 2010, 05:57 PM
I was at the range this morning with my bro-in-law who just purchased a new ruger LCP...While we were signing in, one of the attendants there who we've gotten to know pretty good saw his new LCP and said "they're not bad little pistols but you should have waited another couple of months for the LCP 9mm that's about to come out"...Has anybody else heard this?

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rcmodel
August 7, 2010, 06:05 PM
NO.

Seems very unlikely, as a 9mm Luger cartridge wouldn't even fit in an LCP frame or magazine.
And if they make it big enough for 9mm, then it wouldn't be an LCP,
it would be a Ruger SR-9c.

rc

MgoBlue
August 7, 2010, 07:10 PM
I've heard the rumor. Until I see something official I wouldn't hold your breath!

DeepSouth
August 7, 2010, 07:13 PM
I heard their gonna make a Blue LCP, other than that I've heard no new news.

CPshooter
August 7, 2010, 07:23 PM
And if they make it big enough for 9mm, then it wouldn't be an LCP,
it would be a Ruger SR-9cHow so? The SR9c has a double-stack magazine, not single-stack like the LCP. LCP stands for "Little Carry Pistol," not necessarily ".380 only pocket pistol." So if Ruger introduced a very small, single-stack 9mm carry pistol similar in size to a Kahr PM9, it would be more than appropriate to include it in the LCP family.

The Lone Haranguer
August 7, 2010, 08:54 PM
The LCP as it exists is not going to handle 9mm Luger. It would have to be scaled up in size.
So if Ruger introduced a very small, single-stack 9mm carry pistol similar in size to a Kahr PM9, it would be more than appropriate to include it in the LCP family.

Such a gun would be desirable. Are you listening, Ruger?

ChefKristian
August 7, 2010, 09:13 PM
Well, since they all ripped off KelTec in design (Taurus TCP and Ruger LCP), why not model their 9mm LCP after the P-11 or PF9? :)

DeepSouth
August 7, 2010, 09:19 PM
How so? The SR9c has a double-stack magazine, not single-stack like the LCP. LCP stands for "Lightweight Compact Pistol," not necessarily ".380 only pocket pistol." So if Ruger introduced a very small, single-stack 9mm carry pistol similar in size to a Kahr PM9, it would be more than appropriate to include it in the LCP family.

Fixed it for you.;)

45Fan
August 7, 2010, 09:23 PM
That would be kinda cool, but I would have to wonder about the recoil in a pistol that small in a 9mm.

JDGray
August 8, 2010, 12:05 AM
I would have to wonder about the recoil in a pistol that small in a 9mm.
It would sting for sure, and the recoil spring design would have to be seriously beefed up.

valorius
August 8, 2010, 12:12 AM
I would KILL for a slightly up-sized 9mm LCP with real sights and a full function slide stop. (a safety would be great too)

I would buy one in a heartbeat.

mustang_steve
August 8, 2010, 12:15 AM
P11s have some bite in their recoil...it's nothing ammo selection and training can't solve though.

ugaarguy
August 8, 2010, 12:17 AM
Well, Ruger has ditched the polymer frame and recently introduced a .357 Mag LCR. Given that, I wouldn't be surprised if they introduced a compact, single stack 9x19mm, and called it the LCP 9mm.
Well, since they all ripped off KelTec in design (Taurus TCP and Ruger LCP), why not model their 9mm LCP after the P-11 or PF9?
Wouldn't surprise me either.

valorius
August 8, 2010, 12:18 AM
I think an LCP based upsized 9mm could be smaller than a PF-9. I'd rather see the bigger LCP.

DustyVermonter
August 8, 2010, 12:56 AM
I wish they would make a slightly scaled up single column LCP9 that that had a low-pro bobbed hammer w/ rounded off rubberized sites and was DA/SA and came standard w/ crimson trace's and a pocket holster to accommodate it, all for under $400. It would make a great CCW starter kit and would still be practical for the seasoned gunnies. I can see it in my head, it would be great the way I see it.

Ben86
August 8, 2010, 01:47 AM
*Shudder* LCP in 9mm? That sounds downright unpleasant. Just get a kahr pm9, that way you have a 9mm that is not much bigger and has better sights.

I would KILL for a slightly up-sized 9mm LCP with real sights and a full function slide stop. (a safety would be great too)

Sounds like a kahr pm9. ;) You can even get one with a safety. I don't work for them by the way, I just think this gun is the bees knees.

Boris bush
August 8, 2010, 02:11 AM
All LCPs are 9mm....

9x17mm. Sometimes called 9mm kurz, 9mm corto............. Depends on where the ammo was made...........

gofastman
August 8, 2010, 02:33 AM
*Shudder* LCP in 9mm? That sounds downright unpleasant. Just get a kahr pm9, that way you have a 9mm that is not much bigger and has better sights.



I would KILL for a slightly up-sized 9mm LCP with real sights and a full functional slide stop. (a safety would be great too)

Sounds like a kahr pm9. You can even get one with a safety. I don't work for them by the way, I just think this gun is the bees knees.

too bad these terms are so dichotomous :neener:

I wouldnt mind a "Ruger PF9"

valorius
August 8, 2010, 05:04 AM
I like the Kahr's, but they're REALLY pricey.

At this time, an LCP9 i could afford, a top end Kahr, unless i find the exact model i want used...not so much. Plus the one with the safety is not the model i prefer dimensionally. If they made a P380 with a safety i'd really have to put it on layaway....

I wish my P7 had an alloy frame (So does every P7 owner, lol), that's the same size overall as a Walther PPS, just heavier.

rd2007
August 8, 2010, 05:26 AM
I would KILL for a slightly up-sized 9mm LCP with real sights and a full function slide stop. (a safety would be great too)

I would buy one in a heartbeat.
Then get the 709 Slim.. it is why I didn't get the LCP.

valorius
August 8, 2010, 06:59 AM
<-- Holds out hand for the money for a new Kahr. :)

Bro, i'm remodeling a house, and i have a classic V-8 Porsche (think big $$$$ in maintenance and fuel costs). There is just no money left for any more top end pistols, lol.

DustyVermonter
August 8, 2010, 07:10 AM
I really like the Kel-tec PF9, I mean I like the way it looks and feels, I have not had a chance to shoot one yet but I think I may just have to buy one to do that

johnnylaw53
August 8, 2010, 07:58 AM
I was really looking forward to Ruger bringing out a small single stack 9mm, but when they made the sr9 c i felt that there would be no small single stack 9mm and has not heard of one in the maiking.

be safe

harmon rabb
August 8, 2010, 12:04 PM
Well, since they all ripped off KelTec in design (Taurus TCP and Ruger LCP), why not model their 9mm LCP after the P-11 or PF9?

They could just rip off the Rohrbach R9 :D If they're going to rip off a single stack 9mm, though, I'd prefer they rip off the Taurus PT709 and not the PF-9.

really like the Kel-tec PF9, I mean I like the way it looks and feels, I have not had a chance to shoot one yet but I think I may just have to buy one to do that.

Check out the Taurus PT709 instead. I owned a PF-9, then bought a PT709, and promptly got rid of the PF-9 after shooting them back to back a few times. The PT709 outclasses the PF-9 so thoroughly and so badly at the range that it's laughable. Much much better trigger, MUCH softer shooting (the PT709 with +p kicks less than the PF-9 with standard pressure), more comfortable in the hand.

bigfatdave
August 8, 2010, 01:06 PM
The taurus is a ripoff of the Walther PPS and Kahr subcompacts (not that it is a bad gun, but the inspiration is obvious)

And if the pt709 has a trigger like the pt111 did, I'm sure it is better than the KT pf9

Zerodefect
August 8, 2010, 01:07 PM
I would KILL for a slightly up-sized 9mm LCP with real sights and a full function slide stop. (a safety would be great too)

I would buy one in a heartbeat.

Kahr PM9.

It'll have better sights, grip, and trigger as well.

valorius
August 8, 2010, 07:34 PM
And cost double the price.

wow6599
August 8, 2010, 08:20 PM
Quote:
How so? The SR9c has a double-stack magazine, not single-stack like the LCP. LCP stands for "Lightweight Compact Pistol," not necessarily ".380 only pocket pistol." So if Ruger introduced a very small, single-stack 9mm carry pistol similar in size to a Kahr PM9, it would be more than appropriate to include it in the LCP family.

Fixed it for you.

I'll fix it for both of you....."Little Copied Pistol" ;)

FruitCake
August 8, 2010, 08:51 PM
Just shot the PF9 today and is pretty accurate in my opinion, Ilike it a lot. Do like the idea of a small Ruger 9mm like the size of the PF9.

Ben86
August 9, 2010, 01:01 PM
And cost double the price.

Yeah, but it's twice the gun! :)

speaksoftly
August 9, 2010, 01:15 PM
Originally Posted by valorius View Post
I would KILL for a slightly up-sized 9mm LCP with real sights and a full function slide stop. (a safety would be great too)

I would buy one in a heartbeat.

http://i29.tinypic.com/33jpkc1.jpg

harmon rabb
August 9, 2010, 02:15 PM
Originally Posted by valorius
I would KILL for a slightly up-sized 9mm LCP with real sights and a full function slide stop. (a safety would be great too)

I would buy one in a heartbeat.

Taurus PT709 has all of those, including the safety. PF-9 and PM9 have all of that but the safety. What you want is out there; it's just not made by Ruger.

valorius
August 9, 2010, 04:12 PM
Yeah, but it's twice the gun!
No, really it's not once you include size and weight into the issue. The Ruger scores very well in those departments.

The LCP is a very good little pistol. But yes, i would concede that a Kahr is "better" as an outright mechanical device.

Taurus PT709 has all of those, including the safety. PF-9 and PM9 have all of that but the safety. What you want is out there; it's just not made by Ruger.
I don't want a Taurus. And i definitely do not want another Kel Tec. I didn't like the first, last, and only one i had.

What i really want is a modern HK pocket pistol, but they're so LE/M centric in their thinking, it'll never happen. :(

MachIVshooter
August 9, 2010, 09:52 PM
I'll fix it for both of you....."Little Copied Pistol"

And we have a winner!

Vis a vis the original topic, the PM9 is the smallest practical 9x19mm pistol, and probably always will be. The $1,100 R9 is plagued with reliability problems and high maintenance as a result of it's diminutive size. The 9x19 operates at nearly 50% higher pressure than the .380 ACP. Comparatively, it'd be like squeezing the .380 cartridge into a Baby Browning chassis.

Ben86
August 10, 2010, 12:09 AM
What i really want is a modern HK pocket pistol, but they're so LE/M centric in their thinking, it'll never happen.

See also: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=397334

http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2009/10/05/hk-because-you-suck-and-we-hate-you/

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