Smith & Wesson MP 15 VS DPMS


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ryan.u
August 12, 2010, 01:36 PM
Well guys, I have made up my mind on what kind of rifle to get. I decided I want a AR-15 in the price range of $800. Well now I dont know what to get. a S&W MP 15 or a DPMS. I have a few questions about them though sence they are fairly "cheap" rifles. My main issue is durrablility, How durrable are these rifles? My other question is how well do they work with the cheap ammo (like wolf, siver bear, ect....)

I am mainly getting this for a close range varmit and target rifle and the possable SHTF rifle, God forbid I need it for that but you never know. :)

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HGUNHNTR
August 12, 2010, 01:45 PM
Between the two, the Smith has the highest quality components by far.
Why have you narrowed it down to these two? There are some fantastic deals out there right now on rifles that are better quality than either listed. Ie, Spikes and BCM.

Heck
August 12, 2010, 01:56 PM
If I were to buy one right now I think it would be a spikes. I think you just get a little more gun. My dad has had some accuracy issues as well as some short stroking issues with his S&W and it has been back twice. I am sure this was unique to his rifle and am not trying to lable S&W as a whole.

ryan.u
August 12, 2010, 02:20 PM
I havent narrowed it down those those 2. I am open to all options.

bri
August 12, 2010, 03:13 PM
I recently entered into the AR platform and after researching a bit, I settled on a Spikes mid-length: http://www.spikestactical.com/z/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=113&products_id=443

It's functioned 100% through about 500 rnds so far (steel-cased Tula and Federal brass), no complaints.

There's a 5% discount code for ar15.com members, worth a good look for your price range...

ryan.u
August 12, 2010, 03:23 PM
What about Stag AR-15's? They any good?

FLAvalanche
August 12, 2010, 03:43 PM
I have a DPMS flat top that I've been extremely happy with. It's got about 3000 rounds through it so far without a hitch. Eats from the included mags, my Tapco mags, and a few beat up 15 year old military issue mags.

I don't know about the cheap steel ammo as I won't run it. I know there are a ton of people who don't have problems with it but if the AR was designed to run on steel case ammo the military would supply it. It eats the cheap brass case stuff without an issue.

Fremmer
August 12, 2010, 03:44 PM
Does that include S&W's rebate program that's going on right now? Isn't there a rebate program where you can get money or mags or something like that? If so, that might really make a difference.

Edited to add: from what I hear, the S&W's are good AR-15s. Hearsay, but at least it is consistent hearsay.

Mr.Davis
August 12, 2010, 03:46 PM
Love my S&W M&P-15. Never had the first problem out of it. I'm not particularly passionate about the brand, but I can't imagine any other rifle would be better for what I do with it (which admittedly, is basically just shooting at the range).

jsimmons
August 12, 2010, 04:17 PM
My wife gave me a new M&P15 MOE for our 10th anniversary. I've only put 100 rounds down the pipe, and it was Federal brass, but it was flawless. I've made a few changes to it, including a CTR stock, the enhanced trigger guard, a Troy rear battle sight, a Magpul FVG, and a Yankee-Hill flip-up gasblock sight (with sling swivel).

There are so many options when considering an AR, you could certainly do worse than a M&P15. For a store-bought gun, it's a fine choice.

sectionut
August 12, 2010, 04:23 PM
I've owned my m&p 15 for about a year now and I'd recommend it to anyone. The mag rebate takes quite a while and for me personally, a couple calls. I've fed it over 1000 rounds of store bought and reloads. Not one jam that wasn't my fault (neck sized brass)

308sc
August 12, 2010, 05:14 PM
M & P

i think smith and wesson actually have a $100 rebate going on right now on there ar's

berettaman200
August 12, 2010, 05:36 PM
I agree. I love my M&P 15. Flawless and badass.

migkillertwo
August 12, 2010, 07:14 PM
The Smith and Wesson is definitely better, but why only those two?

If you want it for 800$, get this sumbitch!

http://www.spikestactical.com/z/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=113&products_id=387&zenid=hceu3vjgc80t9s5d1qqissrgr6

sarduy
August 12, 2010, 09:08 PM
CMMG

Hanzo581
August 12, 2010, 09:30 PM
I am going for a M&P15 personally, a great deal can be had at CDNN, $699 for the optics ready model, plus a $100 mail in rebate.

http://cdnninvestments.com.p2.hostingprod.com/CDNN-Catalog/CDNN2010-3/index.html

ryan.u
August 12, 2010, 11:13 PM
I think I will get the M&P for 699, with the 100$ mail in rebate its only 599

308sc
August 13, 2010, 12:35 AM
amazing deal ^^^

darkknight
August 13, 2010, 03:05 AM
I recommend the mp15. I have a mp15t (comes with a quad rail) and I love it. Not one jam and it works great. Get yourself one and never look back.

jleyring
August 13, 2010, 03:40 AM
Bushmaster. Never had a misfire. Little pricey but the gun is great.

jsimmons
August 13, 2010, 07:02 AM
One note on the M&P15 - I discovered last night that the standard front sight post pins are installed BACKWARDS from what is considered standard. So, if you want to replace the FSP with a different gas block, you have to drive the pins out from right to left instead of the other way.

briang2ad
August 13, 2010, 09:44 AM
I would suggest buying close to the model you want and waiting to turn it into a mall ninja toy. If you DON'T want a front sight post, get the OR version. And why buy a nice MOE one and change out all that nice stock stuff??? I'd likely get one WITH SIGHTS and detachable rear 'handle'. Gives you more options.

The choices are really AMAZING. and.., it would take you three months of constant study to figure it out. Flip sights, flat tops, carbine length, mid length, chromed vs. unchromed, special chambers, widely difffering barrel profiles, etc. etc.

In this case, there are really too many options for a novice buyer. Even if you stay oin the $800 range you will get about 10 opinions. As you can see, even if you narrow it to 2, people will tell you to get something different!

CraigC
August 13, 2010, 11:17 AM
In this case, there are really too many options for a novice buyer. Even if you stay oin the $800 range you will get about 10 opinions. As you can see, even if you narrow it to 2, people will tell you to get something different!
I agree and folks are so biased toward what 'they' bought that it's difficult to know what to think and probably fairly easy to buy the wrong one. I've been studying on it for two or three years on and off and still don't have a clear picture. I had all but decided on an M&P15 "T" model but when CDNN got the OR version on sale for $599 after rebate, I had to jump on that.

berettaprofessor
August 13, 2010, 01:11 PM
I've been studying on it for two or three years on and off

Good God...glad you finally bit. Think of the poor neglected little 223 cartridges who were just sitting around unused all that time.

CraigC
August 13, 2010, 03:19 PM
Well, I'm primarily a single action revolver and levergun shooter so I've always had a lot of things higher on the priority list than the AR. I knew that I could have another custom sixgun built for what I've already put into this AR and that has always weighed heavy. Priorities. I also wanted to wait until I could do it right, rather than just slap one together out of the cheapest components available, just to have one. That and my days of impulse purchases are long gone.


One note on the M&P15 - I discovered last night that the standard front sight post pins are installed BACKWARDS from what is considered standard. So, if you want to replace the FSP with a different gas block, you have to drive the pins out from right to left instead of the other way.
Mine was the same way.

Zerodefect
August 13, 2010, 05:17 PM
Stag has the same habit of putting the pins in backwards. I think Stag and the M&P 15 were closely related for a while. But I think that relationship has changed recently.

No big deal 'bout the pins though.

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