Night Vision exports to Europe!


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ivanthehunter
August 13, 2010, 04:32 PM
Whats the max grade that is exportable from the USA.
I was looking at a CGT tubed genII ATN Night Spirit but its lack of availability of these units in the CTG tubed model in the UK has led me to believe that perhaps the CGT tubed units are somehow prohibited from export....:confused:

I have been looking at night vision equipment for some time now and i have found a nice cheap unit with a standard genII tube which is available in both the UK and the US, the ATN Night Spirit is sold in the UK but it doesn't seem to be available with the CGT tube??

IIRC i seen legislation that stated that gen 3 was only exportable under license and gen 4 was not exportable at all, so this leave me wondering if CGT tubes are classed as gen3 yet ATN sell them as genII.....


Any thoughts or advise will be greatly received!

Oh ye i want it for predator hunting here in Ireland...:neener:

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WardenWolf
August 13, 2010, 05:42 PM
There's export restrictions on nightvision to certain countries. Gen3 and up is also restricted for general export. Also, check local laws. In the USA, night hunting is often illegal due to safety concerns. I don't know about the laws there, but it's such a common sense law that I would not be surprised if they have a similar law there.

TexasRifleman
August 13, 2010, 05:44 PM
US Munitions List covered by ITAR:

http://www.fas.org/spp/starwars/offdocs/itar/p121.htm

Note: Special Definition. For purposes of this subparagraph, second and third generation image intensifier tubes are defined as having:

A peak response within the 0.4 to 1.05 micron wavelength range and incorporating a microchannel plate for electron image amplification having a hole pitch (center-to-center spacing) of less than 25 microns, and having either:

(a) An S-20, S-25 or multialkali photocathode; or

(b) A semiconductor photocathode;

Non-military second generation and above image intensification tubes, non-military infrared focal plane arrays, and image intensification tubes identified in paragraph (c) of this section when a part of a commercial system (i.e. those systems originally designed for commercial use). This does not include military systems comprised of non-military specification components.]

I have NO idea what any of that means of course :) But that document is the go/no go list anyway generally.

ivanthehunter
August 13, 2010, 06:02 PM
Its like an new language!:uhoh:

I just wanna NV scope that i can buy cheap!
By the time they travel to UK there is a huge mark up! generally the price figure stays the same and the dollar sign is replaced with the Pound sign.:what:

Exported product goes from $ to and the numbers don't change:cuss:

so by the time it get to Ireland its up again:cuss:

brboyer
August 14, 2010, 03:57 PM
There's export restrictions on nightvision to certain countries. Gen3 and up is also restricted for general export. Also, check local laws. In the USA, night hunting is often illegal due to safety concerns. I don't know about the laws there, but it's such a common sense law that I would not be surprised if they have a similar law there.

:rolleyes:

:scrutiny:

:banghead:

ivanthehunter
August 16, 2010, 04:25 PM
Its perfectly legal to hunt here at night and with lamps!! but deer are protected and are only to be hunted during day light hours.

Haven't you boyos heard of fox calling and rabbit lamping

TexasRifleman
August 16, 2010, 04:40 PM
It's perfectly legal to hunt many things at night here in the US too, I think some folks are confused.

Anyway, we're veering from your question on locating the scope, hope you are able to get an answer from the vendors.

Not much more help we can offer you on that one.

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