Idaho wants public input on plan to kill wolves


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OYE
August 14, 2010, 06:08 PM
From todays Idaho Statesman:

Idaho wants public input on plan to kill wolves

BOISE, Idaho Idaho wolf managers want to know what the public thinks about their plan to kill dozens in northcentral Idaho to help restore elk herds.

There are between 75 and 100 wolves around the Lolo elk hunting zone, one of 29 hunting zones the Idaho Department of Fish and Game manages.

The agency wants to cut the number of predators here to between 20 to 30 wolves for five years.

It thinks they're eating too many elk.

Idaho must get the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service's permission, after the public has weighed in.

More than 140 cow elk in the Lolo Zone have been radio-collared since 2002. More than half the elk that died were killed by wolves. Degraded habitat and natural mortality are also keeping elk numbers down.

Idaho had hoped to use hunting to cull wolves here, but would now likely use state and federal agents to kill them.

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Online:

To comment on the Fish and Game proposal over the next two weeks http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/cms/public/.



Read more: http://www.idahostatesman.com/2010/08/14/1302869/idaho-wants-public-input-on-plan.html#ixzz0wcIapGuF

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OYE
August 14, 2010, 06:14 PM
I'll make my own comment as well. I traveled in this zone quite a bit and extensively in the Selway- Bitterroot Wilderness just South of it. Knapweed is probably the biggest
habitat problem the area faces. Until the F.S. and State get serious about controlling
that, things will not improve a whole lot on the habitat front.

Idano
August 17, 2010, 02:01 AM
I had already bought my tag for this year when I picked up my Deer and Elk Tags; I don't know how I can make it any clearer how I stand on the wolf debate. I knew when they started introducing them that it would be just a matter of time before we would have something else to hunt. You can't introduce something that has no other enemies besides man and expect them to just maintain. Hell I am just waiting for them to start cloning dinosaurs like in Jurassic Park and then we will have something else to hunt, of course it give me an excuse to buy some new toys to hunt those critters:rolleyes:

ricebasher302
August 17, 2010, 09:25 PM
The "wolf states" must be able to manage their wildlife. The uncontrolled re-introduction of wolves into an ecosystem that has not seen them in over a century is irresposible and dangerous. Hunting is management. Hunt wolves. Nuff said.

caribou
August 24, 2010, 07:23 AM
Hunt Wolves for fun and profit :D I do.

Difference is that I live where theres 400,000 Caribou and only 9,000 people, so the Wolves are not competeing with me for meat.
No roads....no fences either.

People are the problem with reintroducing Wolves to the lower 48.


Wit roads, citys and "people" in general, theres no more room for the Wolf, and thats why he was wiped out to begin with.

Uncontrolled the predator/pray ratio would eventually find balance, but not with man involved; Hell, We create MANagement programs that dont work, put up fences, stop migrations of Buffalo, Pronghorn, Elk, and other raomers of the mountains and Plains, have vast tracts of grazeing put up in agriculture and concreat, trash everywhere, were spraying insectacides, Herbacides and whatnot all over....Sheeeeeeesh, its a freekin' mess!!!!!!!.~~LOL!!~~

Damn Wolves go into that and what do you expect? They eat what we eat, they hunt what we hunt, "But" we can hunt them.

Before, likehundreds of years ago,Look, It was working before, when the Indians ran the place there were Wolves all over the place, and plenty of game too..millions of Buffalo to hunt, right?, just not much people.

Eskimos do still.......... Plenty of pedators, plenty of game, lotsa fish, clean water I can drink from the river, The women do all the work, a guy just hunts and fish's all day,..... and all night, well , I got 7 kids.........Im lucky in some ways, so I wont tell ya about 8$ a gallon gas and ruin this...~~LOL!!~~


Please dont ponder suicide in the name of humanity, nor go and chop up any children, but honestly see what the conflict is.People and Wolves compete on many levels.

Up this way, we dont feel a hit in the wallet when a Wolf eats a Caribou, unlike the farmer and his cow.
Our Herd has been stable for 25+ years now, I might add and Wolf number are stable too.


Wolve lose, People win.
(Now fix me a Molotov:D)

WYcoyote
August 28, 2010, 09:41 PM
Wolf Management Plan---
Shoot, Shovel, and Shut-up.

wyohome
August 28, 2010, 10:00 PM
WYcoyote Wolf Management Plan---
Shoot, Shovel, and Shut-up.

I came to say that, I see it is covered.

buck460XVR
August 28, 2010, 11:23 PM
People are the problem with reintroducing Wolves to the lower 48.


Wit roads, citys and "people" in general, theres no more room for the Wolf, and thats why he was wiped out to begin with.

Uncontrolled the predator/pray ratio would eventually find balance, but not with man involved; Hell, We create MANagement programs that dont work, put up fences, stop migrations of Buffalo, Pronghorn, Elk, and other raomers of the mountains and Plains, have vast tracts of grazeing put up in agriculture and concreat, trash everywhere, were spraying insectacides, Herbacides and whatnot all over....Sheeeeeeesh, its a freekin' mess!!!!!!!.~~LOL!!~~

Damn Wolves go into that and what do you expect? They eat what we eat, they hunt what we hunt, "But" we can hunt them.

Before, likehundreds of years ago,Look, It was working before, when the Indians ran the place there were Wolves all over the place, and plenty of game too..millions of Buffalo to hunt, right?, just not much people.




Wolve lose, People win.




well said, caribou.

leadcounsel
August 29, 2010, 01:19 AM
Human folly

Radium
August 29, 2010, 04:35 AM
just shoot the wolfs they arent endangered animals.

Jefferson Herb
August 29, 2010, 04:35 AM
I'm willing to donate some .22-250's w nosler60 part or barnes tripple shocks if someone has the permits;or a good shovel. [also have 55gr nbt's]

Radium
August 29, 2010, 04:37 AM
Shoot, Shovel, and Shut-up.

Funny to see u guys have the same way of thinking as we in europe :P we say the exact same thing! :p

caribou
August 29, 2010, 07:03 AM
Wolves are a great source of income, as well as being a renewable resource..

I get between 350$ and 600$ for each skin, depending on size and color.

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