Best Single Action 9mm?


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Carter
August 17, 2010, 06:34 PM
I'm looking for a full sized single action (da/sa is okay too) 9mm that can handle +p+ ammo. I'd like a really crisp, clean, and light trigger pull as well. Basically a 1911 type trigger. And all for $800 or less.

Possible?

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Purgatory
August 17, 2010, 06:43 PM
Browning Hi Power comes to mind. With just a little bit of trigger work it should meet your criteria.

Carter
August 17, 2010, 06:48 PM
Browning Hi Power comes to mind. With just a little bit of trigger work it should meet your criteria.

There seem to be a lot of warnings about using +p and +p+ in a browning hi power.

Purgatory
August 17, 2010, 06:55 PM
Come to think of it, I might have heard that about using +P on a regular basis in the BHP. I didn't suspect occasional use or mostly for carry would be a concern, but you may be correct.

Anyone else have any suggestions?

Purgatory
August 17, 2010, 07:09 PM
Maybe this will clear some things up.

http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/BHPandHighPressureAmmo.htm

EastKY_DO
August 17, 2010, 07:17 PM
Single-action, eh? How about a Ruger Blackhawk w/ the convertible cylinder! :D

9mmepiphany
August 17, 2010, 07:23 PM
Dependimg on how you define full sized...I can highly recommend the H&K P-7

SharpsDressedMan
August 17, 2010, 07:26 PM
Look for a pre-B model CZ75. They have better trigger pulls than the later B models, and can be carried cocked and locked. They can also handle heavier 9mm loads. Typical pricing around $450-$600.

Carter
August 17, 2010, 07:27 PM
Dependimg on how you define full sized...I can highly recommend the H&K P-7

4 to 5 inch barrel, full handle length.

Not really a fan of the p7 though...

legion3
August 17, 2010, 07:36 PM
There seem to be a lot of warnings about using +p and +p+ in a browning hi power.

Not from Browning.

This was from an article written some time ago.

Browning, on the other hand, forwarded a copy of an internal test report in which it fired 5000 rounds of Remington +P+ 9mm ammunition in a Browning Hi Power pistol. "Inspection of the Hi Power system reveled no unnatural wear to the locking surfaces or any other area. Headspace was checked and found to be acceptable." The conclusion: "...the 9mm Hi Power system appears to be durable enough to withstand long-range [term] shooting of the new ammunition from Remington."

While many makers in the article sort of were non-commital about using +P+, Browning and Glock were two makers who were not shy about their guns doing just fine.

TriTone
August 17, 2010, 07:39 PM
The CZ-75 SA comes to mind. Nice weapon. Don't own one but have shot several thousands through my dads. Trigger could be improved - the break is nice but there is a lot of pretravel, IMO.

Carter
August 17, 2010, 08:12 PM
Guess the browning hi power is back in the running :)

I like the looks and design of the cz-75 as well.

valorius
August 17, 2010, 08:30 PM
HK P7. It meets your criteria right out of the box, and is one of the most accurate and compact service pistols ever made, as well as extremely reliable.

Used German police trade in guns are all over the market right now for $500 and up.

wbwanzer
August 17, 2010, 08:33 PM
Here's my pick: Witness Elite Match. Best SA trigger I've shot expect for a 1911 maybe. Often used in competition shooting in Europe. They can be found for around $600 new. I got mine used. It's a very nice pistol for target shooting.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m145/wbwanzer/Witness002.jpg

Purgatory
August 17, 2010, 08:40 PM
Nice gun, wbwanzer. Just curious-why is your rear sight set so high?

wbwanzer
August 17, 2010, 08:45 PM
Thanks Purgatory. Don't know about the sight. It was that way when I got it. Seems OK when I shoot it, so I left it alone.

9mmepiphany
August 17, 2010, 09:00 PM
4 to 5 inch barrel, full handle length.

Not really a fan of the p7 though...

Too bad, the P7 does meet your requirements...it was the choice of Germany's GSG-9, their version of Britian's SAS

dom1104
August 17, 2010, 09:28 PM
STI Spartan. 10 round 9mm 1911. $600 bucks.

Boom. Done.

WC145
August 17, 2010, 09:35 PM
Save up a few hundred more and get a SW1911 9mm Pro Series. Well worth the price of admission-

http://lh5.ggpht.com/__3_AZOV0zhc/S_HMTTbOUWI/AAAAAAAAB30/GUqB4ZB0XK8/s640/SDC10804.JPG

BHP FAN
August 17, 2010, 09:52 PM
Browning Hi Power.

Jed Carter
August 17, 2010, 10:08 PM
SIG X5, STI Trojan 5.0, Colt Government Series 70 9mm, all are great but the STI has the best trigger IMO. SIG and STI are fairly easy to come by, the Colt not so much. I have shot all three, own the Colt, have the STI on order from their Custom Shop, est time of delivery is 9/22/10. I have handled a CZ SP01 from Angus' custom shop and it has an incredible DA/SA trigger with about 1/8" of reset in SA.

Carter
August 17, 2010, 10:13 PM
Too bad, the P7 does meet your requirements...it was the choice of Germany's GSG-9, their version of Britian's SAS

Yes I know all about the GSG-9. A german friend of mine insists they eat SAS and SEALS for breakfast.

All of these are all great options, however, it seems the 9mm 1911's are special order only (can't find any except para ordnance in stock). *Sigh* that may take a while...

legion3
August 17, 2010, 10:50 PM
But the GSG 9 uses the Glock 17 (and some 19's) now don't they?

;)

HPJeep
August 18, 2010, 12:59 AM
Browning Hi Power is the way to go. Best SA all steel gun around that chugs through thousands of rounds without issue. I've got three! I also have a Colt Series 70 1911A1 in 9mm which is nice. However the Hi Power just fits in the hand so much better.

valorius
August 18, 2010, 02:36 AM
4 to 5 inch barrel, full handle length.

Not really a fan of the p7 though...
That's unfortunate. I love mine.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b343/m21sniper/Spoons/P7PSPNill0.jpg

You will have to look far and wide, and perhaps on another planet, to find a pistol with that good a trigger, that much accuracy, and that long a barrel in such a compact package...for any price....let alone the $500 they can be had for right now.

Jed Carter
August 18, 2010, 05:51 AM
$800 limit? STI Spartan, Rock Island 1911, CZ or EAA, maybe a BHP. Raise the limit $300-400, SIG X5, STI Trojan perhaps a Dan Wesson Pointman 9.

71Commander
August 18, 2010, 10:17 AM
My STI Spartan. Nothing but hot stuff through it. Handles it just fine.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/tucker13/spartan-a.jpg

Pilot
August 18, 2010, 10:49 AM
Browning Hi Power
HK P7 series
CZ-75 SA
Colt 1911 in 9MM

BlayGlock
August 18, 2010, 02:57 PM
STI Spartan 9mm 1911 for around $650-675.

valorius
August 18, 2010, 03:03 PM
Does it actually work and shoot right out of the box, or does it "need" another $500 in work to make it shoot properly, like most 1911's do?

John Holbrook
August 18, 2010, 03:24 PM
The Browning Hi Power is the "Forgotten" 9 MM auto. It is still just as good and better than most of the current crop of plastics. It is utterly reliable and has a "natural" feel and balance... I highly recommend it!!!!

http://www.fototime.com/%7B5A6AE0FB-4207-4388-9A35-41E1A61A3CA1%7D/origpict/Copy%20of%20DSC00216.JPG

Carter
August 18, 2010, 04:22 PM
Does it actually work and shoot right out of the box, or does it "need" another $500 in work to make it shoot properly, like most 1911's do?

Right out of the box. Some after market work in the future would be fine, but not having to spend hundreds of dollars just to make it reliable and accurate.

Jed Carter
August 18, 2010, 10:19 PM
STI Spartan will run out of the box, ramped barrel will take Wilson combat 10 round magazines too. My old Colt series 70 only work with 9 round mags. Buy a good pistol with quality mags that fit and it should work right off.

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