Has Ruger Ever Made


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Bubba613
August 17, 2010, 07:44 PM
Has Ruger ever made their Number 1 in 7.62x54R? If not, any idea why not? They make them in almost every other caliber, metric and U.S.

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juk
August 17, 2010, 09:02 PM
I've seen them in 7.62x39. You might can run a search from a search engine and turn something up. From what I understand, Ruger has and will make limited runs of certain calibers. But, they won't make them if they don't already have a buyer. I don't know what constitutes a limited run. Might be 50 guns, might be 200. I may be horribly wrong, so don't take it as gospel. Your best bet would be to call Ruger and ask.

52grain
August 17, 2010, 09:22 PM
I would call and ask. If they did make a small number, they'd be the ones to know. If they haven't, they won't know that the demand exists unless someone asks.

Just curious, why would you want 7.62x54R?

SlamFire1
August 17, 2010, 09:55 PM
I think that is a great idea. A rimmed cartridge is just the thing for a single shot.

Performance will not be that different from a 30-06, but since they are making No1's in 303 Brit, why not 7.62 Russian?

browningguy
August 17, 2010, 10:30 PM
The real question is why would they? With all the .30's they have chambered what does the old Russian cartridge bring to the table? There really isn't much in the way of modern ammunition available except for handloaders either.

Bubba613
August 17, 2010, 11:27 PM
Endless supply of cheap ammo combined with a caliber that has won Olympic events. It certainly makes more sense than some of the calibers I've seen.

JWF III
August 17, 2010, 11:49 PM
but since they are making No1's in 303 Brit, why not 7.62 Russian?


Same bore size... Why not ream out a .303 to 7.62x54?

I don't have two cases here to compare, but as my memory serves, the x54 is fatter. The .303 is (ever so slightly) longer... So the big question is the shoulder. Can the shoulder on the .303 be taken out by reaming with a x54 reamer? Would an "improved" shoulder (similar to Ackley Improved) be able to take care of any possible problem? (And still be able to fire factory rounds, just like the many Ackley chambers.)

Anybody have the cartridges (or cases) they could compare?

Wyman

browningguy
August 17, 2010, 11:49 PM
Don't get me wrong, I like oddballs, I even shoot a 1/2 action Martini Henry in .300 Sherwood and have 2 in 360 No. 5. The question is why would a manufacturer? Most people buying Number 1's are not looking to shoot cheap surplus ammo, if that's all you want then get a Mosin and have at it (from the manufacturers point of view). Now people will pay a few dollars more for a classic like the .375 H&H or the .450/400, I just don't think there are enough people willing to shell out for a 7.62x54 to make it worth their while.

fireman 9731
August 18, 2010, 02:05 AM
I just looked at the 303 and 7.62x54R side by side.

You couldn't ream out a chamber for it.

The shoulder on the 303 is way too high.

Good idea though.

rozziboy18
August 18, 2010, 03:00 AM
i think it the lack of high quality ammo, there's tons of mil-surp. but i dont think i know of many manufactures other than s&b that produces high quality hunting ammo. IMHO i would by one if they made it.

Bubba613
August 18, 2010, 10:03 AM
Norma makes ammo for the 7.62x54R and Lapua has cases.

rcmodel
August 18, 2010, 02:11 PM
Endless supply of cheap ammoEndless supply of cheap old mil-sup corrosive ammo with cracking case necks too.

Ruger would be crazy to open themselves up to all the warranty calls from people too dumb to clean their rifles with hot water every time they shot WWII ammo in them.

rc

R.W.Dale
August 18, 2010, 02:19 PM
A more reliant question is why haven't they made one in 30-30

HOOfan_1
August 18, 2010, 03:03 PM
Endless supply of cheap old mil-sup corrosive ammo with cracking case necks too.

Ruger would be crazy to open themselves up to all the warranty calls from people too dumb to clean their rifles with hot water every time they shot WWII ammo in them.

rc

Of course the Ruger No.1 is a $1,000+ rifle, so can't imagine one who bought it would be worried about ammo price.

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