Bush signs more gun legislation


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tiberius
December 10, 2003, 10:28 AM
If only they existed. I heard about congress passing it a while back, but it seems more personal to hear that GWB actually signed this nonsense. :(

It's a NYT article. Registration is free but required so I'll just post the short clip here..

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Bush-Guns.html

Ban on Plastic Guns Extended 10 Years
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Published: December 9, 2003


Filed at 9:53 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush quietly signed legislation Tuesday that would extend for 10 years a ban on plastic guns that can be slipped past airport metal detectors or through X-ray machines.

The legislation bans the manufacture, sale or possession of such firearms, but exempts military and intelligence agencies. It renews a ban that was last reauthorized in 1998 and expires this month.

It was passed as officials worry that terrorists would get their hands on weapons undetectable by metal detectors at airports and other security checkpoints.

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TallPine
December 10, 2003, 10:30 AM
So does this include plastic water guns ....? :rolleyes:


PS: of course, no one would ever think of making a knife out of a deer antler and concealing it very well ...

Jonesy9
December 10, 2003, 10:48 AM
oh no! not my plastic guns! next they'll ban my phaser and light sabre!

Jonesy9
December 10, 2003, 10:50 AM
scary part is, if Bush will sign this and not deal with the fallout, it may not bode well for any real legislation

Nightfall
December 10, 2003, 11:02 AM
I just hope this doesn't get thrown back in our face. "You accepted a ban on plastic guns, why not terrorist assault weapons?"

I also hope GWB doesn't get the idea that we will let him get away signing this kind of feel good legislation should the AWB come into play...

Ohen Cepel
December 10, 2003, 11:07 AM
I might be missing the point.

Sounds like the laws that say I can't bathe a buffalo in my bath tub.
Or that I can't walk my unicorn on Sundays.

Does anyone make a plastic gun? Polymer barrel and chamber?

This just doesn't seem to matter to me and I'm a rather paranoid guy.

TallPine
December 10, 2003, 11:19 AM
Sounds like the laws that say I can't bathe a buffalo in my bath tub.
But they will have to bust down your door to make sure that you are not.

Then ban bath tubs just in case ...

El Tejon
December 10, 2003, 11:25 AM
What about my Glock 7s?:D

labgrade
December 10, 2003, 01:00 PM
When I did military/security mobility exercizes in the late 70s, we had the hand-held technology to detect a piece of foil that surrounded a stick of chewing gum or cigarette pack - likely a bit more than would be considered in anything firearm-wise & I'd just bet-cha that the tech has evolved some ....

Talking about doing something that won't catch stuff .....

.... but exempts military and intelligence agencies ... "


So, these wizards will exclude the very folks who may be doing all these things that brings about what we are scared about in the first place?

Howz that again?

rock jock
December 10, 2003, 01:05 PM
This is all part of Bush's strategy to appease special interest groups with a few crumbs. Keep everybody happy. The legislation is completely meaningless except that it may garner him a few votes down the road. As a Republican, this stupid law doesn't bother me nearly as much as the $400 billion Medicare package that was just signed.

MicroBalrog
December 10, 2003, 01:29 PM
Does anyone make a plastic gun? Polymer barrel and chamber?

Yes, there was a plastic/polymer shotgun made once (in france), with amounts of metal so low it didn't get read by metal detectors, but there was only one like that made.

tiberius
December 10, 2003, 01:32 PM
Yes, there was a plastic/polymer shotgun made once (in france), with amounts of metal so low it didn't get read by metal detectors, but there was only one like that made.

Must resist urge to make French joke...

foghornl
December 10, 2003, 02:21 PM
Must resist urge to make French joke...

Well, I can't.....

"...But the one-of-a-kind plastic weapon shattered into millions of pieces when it was dropped on a block of hard cheese in surrender..."


:D :D :D

SaintofKillers
December 10, 2003, 03:06 PM
Sure there are plastic guns and ones made out of wood too, didnt you see 'In the Line of Fire' its all right there, any terrorist can go to Blockbuster rent this film and follow the design laid out by Malkovichs character, and voila there you have it. *Sarcasm Off* I agree this is just another piece of legislation to throw a bone to the blissninnys.

seeker_two
December 10, 2003, 03:15 PM
Sounds like the laws that say I can't bathe a buffalo in my bath tub.

And why the :cuss: is it the government's business what I'm bathing in my personally-owned bathtub, anyway? :banghead:




(NOTE: Think about this statement before you post a reply...;) )

Tag
December 10, 2003, 03:22 PM
It was passed as officials worry that terrorists would get their hands on weapons undetectable by metal detectors at airports and other security checkpoints.


yeah right, and since all the criminals/terrorists out there who were planning to do somting like this will all stop now that it's 'illegal'

what nonsence, when will people wake up :uhoh:

vrwc
December 10, 2003, 03:31 PM
Oh so what do you shoot out of your plastic gun that wouldn't set off metal detectors, plastic shells with plastic projectiles :)

Master Blaster
December 10, 2003, 03:46 PM
Rat Turds propelled by mouse farts.

Gordon Fink
December 10, 2003, 06:37 PM
This is all part of Bush’s strategy to appease special interest groups with a few crumbs. Keep everybody happy. The legislation is completely meaningless except that it may garner him a few votes down the road.…

Republicans and their wishful thinking crack me up! :D

~G. Fink

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