No No to Rifles


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Cactus Jack Arizona
August 20, 2010, 01:19 PM
"By Jung Sung-ki

The U.S. government opposed South Korea’s bid to sell hundreds of thousands of aging U.S. combat rifles to American gun collectors, a senior government official said Thursday."

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2010/08/205_71329.html

Another related story:

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/obama-bans-more-than-100-000-american-made-rifles

Imagine if they released 80 thousand+ M1 Garands back into America. We'd all be able to afford one. As it is, I haven't physically seen one that wasn't at least $1,000. :banghead: In this economy, I certainly can't afford a M1 Garand at the current asking prices. :(

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General Geoff
August 20, 2010, 01:21 PM
As it is, I haven't physically seen one that wasn't at least $1,000.

CMP offers them for as little as $500, in shootable condition.

Cactus Jack Arizona
August 20, 2010, 01:30 PM
If you don't mind, General, what is CMP?

hso
August 20, 2010, 01:32 PM
So what's to be done about it?

Is there any information about where we need to apply pressure? When the surplus brass sales problem cropped up we were able to get help from various Congresscritters so why not now?

rcmodel
August 20, 2010, 01:35 PM
CMP = Civilian Marksmanship Program.

http://www.odcmp.com/

rc

Aren't we all
August 20, 2010, 01:47 PM
What self resepecting gangster or terrorist would drop his "glock forty" or Ak47 for a Garand or Carbine?:scrutiny:

General Geoff
August 20, 2010, 01:49 PM
a gangster with taste. :p

hso
August 20, 2010, 01:51 PM
Time to send letters and email to Senators Max Baucus (D-Mont.) and Jon Tester (D-Mont.) and Sen. Tester and U.S. Rep. Denny Rehberg (R-Mont.) who pushed for reinstatement of surplus brass sales.

Polite letters should be written vigorously opposing the blocking of imports of these weapons that originally came from the US on the grounds that it will have a negative impact on importers and small businesses who sell military antique firearms and upon individual gun owners who purchase them for collecting and recreational and competitive shooting. It will also have a negative impact on one of America's trading partners (Korea) who has maintained these firearms since the Korean Conflict. US veterans who proudly served will be denied the ability to care for and use the weapons they defended freedom with now during peace as will their adult children and grandchildren.

Check our Activism forum for how to contact your congresscritter and send them a politely worded letter asking them to support the sale of these fine pieces of history to legitimate dealers (CMP and commercial importers) for sale to the public. http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=370422

Cactus Jack Arizona
August 20, 2010, 02:02 PM
Well, I was just merely bringing it to the attention of those here at THR. However, I believe that it probably would help solve the issue if everyone would contact their congresscritters and ask them to reconsider their decision to their ban said rifles. I shall begin to orchestrate a letter to my congresscritter/senator. :)

General Geoff
August 20, 2010, 02:07 PM
I just called my representative's D.C. office and left a message with one of his assistants, concerning this issue.

Cactus Jack Arizona
August 20, 2010, 02:15 PM
Thanks General for your help in already contacting your Rep.

Thanks HSO for your help. Sadly, like most Americans I suppose, I've spent more time complaining and far less time doing something about it; you know, the old excuses: someone else will take care of it, or, I don't really have the time to craft a letter, blah, blah, blah. I shall do my part this time. :what:

Ignition Override
August 20, 2010, 02:46 PM
2075 RAMI:
If you belong to a shooting club and gather the correct papers, the CMP will sell you a nice Service Grade for $600.

Mine arrived two weeks ago and the bore is shiny enough to appear chrome-lined. The parkerized finish is excellent.

hso
August 20, 2010, 05:05 PM
Most folks won't be bothered to get up off the couch to send a simple email or make a brief phone call to the elected officials. Too many of those that do do so with fire in their eye instead of well crafted arguments in their head. The most effective citizen is one who makes the effort to calmly and logically explains to their representation that they are deeply disturbed and want the representative to fix the problem so that a specific reasonable result takes place and that they'll be looking for them to deliver on that and will remember it in the primaries and in the run up to the election. Point out the negative economic impact (importer job/tariffs/taxes, distributor jobs/taxes, retailer jobs/taxes) in these difficult economic times. Add that basement bound bureaucrats setting policy for Congress when the SCOTUS has twice now reiterated the individual right to keep and bear arms is simply usurping the authority we've invested in our elected officials. Put all that together and we have a better formula for success in winning.

Shadow 7D
August 21, 2010, 12:39 AM
Folks the issue is the origin of the rifle

See LEND / LEASE

I.E. they are US rifles (why do you think you can buy German boarder guard and Bavarian Forestry M1 carbines from CMP)

So, I'm going to borrow your car, drive it for 5 years, and then try to sell it to your kids

THE MORE IMPORTANT QUESTION
why isn't the Korean government returning the rifles to our government (like the contract says) so we can buy them from CMP????

vaupet
August 21, 2010, 03:48 AM
Don't go through to much trouble, because if you can't have them, maybe theKoreans will sell them to Europe, so we can have a shot. :D

Jeremy2171
August 21, 2010, 09:20 AM
Folks the issue is the origin of the rifle

See LEND / LEASE

I.E. they are US rifles (why do you think you can buy German boarder guard and Bavarian Forestry M1 carbines from CMP)

So, I'm going to borrow your car, drive it for 5 years, and then try to sell it to your kids

THE MORE IMPORTANT QUESTION
why isn't the Korean government returning the rifles to our government (like the contract says) so we can buy them from CMP????
Just for the record.....Korea wasn't "given" all of their weapons...some were bought and some were MAP (Military Assistance Program). The MAP guns are US property and thats what CMP gets. If Korea bought X number of Garands and Carbines then they can do whatever they want with them.... end of story.

Orlando
August 21, 2010, 12:11 PM
Correct Jeremy, there is to much bad info out there
Actually I really doubt we are missing out much on those Korean Rifles
Does anyone remember the Korean Blue Sky Imports of the early 1980's??
For the most part they were worn out junkers.
If you want a good quality non import marked Garand CMP is the way to go.
They are test fired and have great customer service.
As already stated $600.00 will get you a real nice shooter and good looking rifle

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