Would you feel comfortable letting you wife or loved one carry a chambered Glock in their purse or a pocket? If not chambered it kind of defeats the purpose of having a side arm if the BGs won't let you call "time out or Kings-X" while you get a round chambered?
I like the weight, feel, and accuracy of our Glock but the whole trigger safety thing has really turned me off.
Watched some youtube stuff and there was the usual glowing reviews expounding what a great gun Glock is. One review did mention the trigger safety was only there to keep the trigger from moving back when the slider does; more cosmetic than a safety.
I have always had or used hand guns that when on safe the trigger could be pulled until probably broken but the gun would not go off. To me a loose strap on a holster or anything that gets between the trigger guard and trigger could could cause a round to be fired.
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August 21, 2010, 11:32 AM
I would never (and don't) carry any Glock in Condition 1 without a holster. Issue is not the draw, it is the "reholstering". I carry (and will carry today) a G26 in a Fobus paddle. All my Condition 1 Glocks are holstered, peroid.
August 21, 2010, 11:36 AM
Sure, feel free to carry it in a purse or pocket.
In a holster.
My wife has sewn her holster for her PM9 (no manual safety) into a dedicated portion of her purse. We don't consider it a safety issue.
Without a holster? Absolutely not.
August 21, 2010, 11:49 AM
a HOLSTER is the safety device you are looking for.
August 21, 2010, 12:51 PM
Yup. Pretty much.
My wife carries either a Taurus .45, a Beretta 84 or a Beretta 70 in a purse.
All of them have manual safeties, but every single last one of them is still in a cheapo Uncle Mike's.
Would I ever feel comfortable carrying any handgun without a holster? No.
Why would the Glock be any different? 8)
August 21, 2010, 01:04 PM
You shouldn't carry any handgun, regardless of what safeties it has, without a holster that effectively covers and guards the trigger.
August 21, 2010, 01:28 PM
Seems like the gun tends to go off when putting said gun back in holster. Again youtube actual video of handgun safety instructor with a class of kids shooting himself.
I just think it is not a very good design. A cheap piece of plastic or steel rod safety behind the trigger assembly would, "to me" have been a better design. They probably will not change it now for that is an admission of guilt and poor design during a law suit. Not preaching just observing something outside my comfort zone. Might keep it for home defense but not even sure about that?
August 21, 2010, 01:39 PM
The gun doesn't tend to go off on reholster, the trigger finger tends to curl inward with stress. Just keep that finger out of the trigger guard and you'll be OK.
August 21, 2010, 10:56 PM
I'm a believer in carrying guns in holsters that cover the trigger. But I might consider carrying some guns without a holster in some situations. However, a GLOCK wouldn't be one of them.
August 21, 2010, 11:35 PM
Chambered Glocks need to be in a holster at all times, even for nightstand duty.
Get a Raven concealment type kydex with rubber IWB loops added. Sew the loops into your purse, or attach the holster firmly into the purse.
She can carry OWB and not worry about printing when walking about, If she carrys a big purse on her gun side.
August 22, 2010, 12:26 AM
Just like everyone says, get a good holster (such as Raven as the above poster mentioned). Odds are, a glock would be to big for a womens pocket. Has she actually put one in her pocket and see what it feels like? Also, why would she want to carry it in her purse? If she gets robbed what do you think is the first thing a bg is going to grab for?
August 22, 2010, 12:52 AM
Holster a glock. Frankly, holster any gun.
August 22, 2010, 04:26 AM
Thanks guys, been doing more study and Larry my gun guy thought there was a manual safety available for around thirty bucks..I told him to get me one; we will see if he can come through. I have checked, but have not been able to find one myself.
I have known guys who carried their 1911 stuck in their pants "Mexican carry style" with one in the chamber and the hammer cocked. I never even in my younger stupid days carried a 1911 that way.
Sighted in the Crimsontrace laser grip today while shooting the 23C in 9mm mode. Like the way the gun feels and shoots; again the 40cal seems to kick less due to compensated barrel.
Glock rule here is, "none chambered if you gonna carry the pistol". Just gonna let my wife qualify with the pistol and since she likes the p22 so much I am sure that is what she will carry. I am not going to carry the Glock unless Larry finds a extra safety for it. Call me a wimp. If I have to carry I really feel it proper to have one chambered and either with a hammer cock or a safety release be ready to fire. Different strokes for different folks...Again thanks for you thoughts. It has been a learning situation for me.
August 22, 2010, 04:47 AM
There is a manual safety kit for the Glock, but it requires cutting the frame. There is also a device called (if i recall correctly) saf-t-block that fits behind the trigger and can be popped out. But I personally do not think that is a great system. If purse carry was a must, use a properly fitted holster. Or one of the many purses designed for a handgun. Personally, I believe on body carry is the way to go.
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August 22, 2010, 11:36 AM
I would not just drop it loosely into a purse or pocket. A purse should have a dedicated, fairly close fitting compartment that only holds the gun, pocket carry should utilize a pocket holster, and nothing else should be in that pocket.
One review did mention the trigger safety was only there to keep the trigger from moving back when the slider does; more cosmetic than a safety.
This is only partly true. Its primary purpose is as a drop safety if the gun is dropped, struck or thrown. Preventing objects other than your finger from pulling the trigger is secondary, and not 100% effective.
August 22, 2010, 11:55 AM
Like most everyone else around here, I think a Glock should be carried in a holster or not at all.
For a purse gun with no holster, I recommend a DA pistol or revolver kept in a dedicated pocket with nothing else in it.
If you are stuck with the Glock, you could try a Saf T Blok for it. I have never used it myself, but i know several people who haved with mixed reviews. Some love it and some don't.
August 22, 2010, 11:58 AM
If you are concerned about having a safety, you could always look at M&P compact with safety (http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_766227_-1_757781_757781_757781_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y) - stainless steel slide/barrel, adjustable back straps, ergonomic controls, ambi slide release and comes with accessory rail.
August 22, 2010, 06:00 PM
There have been some "accidental" police shootings with Glocks, and some departments have gone to positive on/off safetys. In reality a Glock in condition 1 is similar to a revolver. Cocked and locked, or Cocked and unlocked makes some people nervous. Alot depends on the percieved threat level. Here is where training, and common sense should dictate the weapon and condition. My wife carries a bersa .380 with a chambered round, decocked. Often, it's not the gun, or the state of readyness it is carried in. It's the person carrying it.