New Glock 21 Advice?


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GunAdmirer
August 24, 2010, 10:07 PM
I traded for a like new, recent production 3rd generation G21 this afternoon. I've shot a friend's G21 before and found it to be quite accurate. The grip is big but fits my hand pretty well. I've had many Glocks before.

Any advice on the Glock 21? Any ammo pickiness? Defense ammo weight/brand preference? Quirks? Must have upgrades or accessories?

I would appreciate your advice and thoughts. Let's not get into kabooms or anything like it, please.

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Full Metal Jacket
August 24, 2010, 10:41 PM
excellent choice. no ammo pickiness--it'll feed anything. no quirks either :)

i put +2 pearce floorplates on my g21sf's mags. nice to have 15 rounds of .45

pvthouse
August 24, 2010, 10:42 PM
I bought one maybe 5 months ago and love the thing. I have shot everything from 15/50 rnd of chechz ammo to premium dollar plus a round sd ammo. Not a single ftf or fte after 1500 rounds. For sd ammo I have used speer gold dot 185 gr jhp and remington pdx1 230gr jhp and it loves both. As far as upgrades goes I wouldn't mess with the internals, there are aftermarket parts out there but they are not needed. If its going to be a nightstand gun then I MAY suggest tritium night sights. As usual don't use lead reloads. My usual rounds are fiocchi 230gr rn. Just cause they are cheap and go bang. Its a very accurate and dependable weapon. Treat it well and it will most definently do the same in return.

skipsan
August 24, 2010, 10:43 PM
I recently impulse-bought a G21. Still don't know why, but its a nice pistol.
Seems to take all the crappy reloads I can feed it without any issues. I did buy an Advantage Arms .22 kit, also on impulse. It also works fine also, but the aluminum kit on the plastic frame results in such a light combo, I'm not sure how much of a training aid it really is. Feels like a kids plastic squirt gun with trigger to match.

dawico
August 24, 2010, 10:45 PM
I love the G21. Treat it like any other Glock and it will be fine.

Full Metal Jacket
August 24, 2010, 11:03 PM
I recently impulse-bought a G21. Still don't know why, but its a nice pistol.

i recently impulse bought a Glock 29 10mm lol :eek:

glocks have that affect on folks :)

amprecon
August 24, 2010, 11:43 PM
Your 3rd generation should have the accessory rail on it, I've found the Streamlight TLR-3 a nice accessory for a nightstand gun and easily removed for carry. This model is of complete polymer construction and is very compact for the amount of brightness it produces.

The Glock 21 is a great pistol and utterly reliable and accurate.

http://www.opticsplanet.net/streamlight-compact-rail-mounted-tactical-light-tlr-3-69220.html

GunAdmirer
August 24, 2010, 11:48 PM
I usually buy a plug, spare recoil assembly and floorplate for each Glock I buy.

I couldn't have made a better deal on the G21.

I had a nice 1911 for awhile that I foolishly sold. I've been content with my 9mms until the last few months. I just wanted to add a .45 back to my collection. Like I stated, I shot a friend's G21 nearly a year ago and shot very well with it. I've had nothing but good luck with Glocks.

I plan to use it mainly as a home defense or truck gun because of its large size. I'll carry the G19 when I need to carry something.

No problems with flat point bullets or plated semi wadcutters?

skipsan
August 25, 2010, 12:29 AM
Aside from a few rounds of factory ammo for break-in, the only ammo I've used in my G21 is 200 gr Berry plated swc. No issues.

amprecon
August 25, 2010, 12:32 AM
The very first thing I have them do to it before I even leave the store is have them replace the 5.5lb disconnector with the 3.5lb one, it makes a world of difference.

Full Metal Jacket
August 25, 2010, 01:18 AM
^^agreed.

the 3.5lb actually gives a 4.5lb pull so it's not too light for carry, for folks concerned about that. glock started calling it the "4.5" connector a couple years go. not sure why glock ever called it "3.5....

Nushif
August 25, 2010, 01:35 AM
Hmmm ... So the 3.5 connector will give me a 4.5 pull ...
How hard are they to install for an utter n00b like myself?

Full Metal Jacket
August 25, 2010, 01:52 AM
^^a mildly retarded monkey can field strip a glock :)

just search for "glock connector" on youtube, there's a bunch on there, walk you through everything, my friend.

pm me if you have any questions about it.

Sgt_R
August 25, 2010, 02:02 AM
I like a plug, extended slide release, medium mag release, and 3.5# connector on my Glocks. My full size also has a tungsten guide rod. Everything can be installed in about 20 minutes, and the only tool needed is a small punch.

Other than that, buy a couple spare mags, a good holster, and as much ammo as you can afford to shoot. ;)

R

DustyVermonter
August 25, 2010, 04:31 AM
I shoot 230gr UMC for target practice and have not had any issues whatsoever, which is pretty standard for all Glocks.

My personal preference for defensive ammo is the Hornady Tap 230gr hollow points.


Go to www.ThePrepared.com this site will tell you everything you need to know, if this link does not work than just google The Prepared Glock 21 Torture Test and you will have a new found respect for your new impulse buy.

REAPER4206969
August 25, 2010, 04:34 AM
How hard are they to install for an utter n00b like myself?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfyytGNqohY

Sapper771
August 25, 2010, 08:20 AM
The only ammo that I had an issue with in my G21SF was some jacketed semi-wadcutter bullets, but they also had a very short OAL. Other than those, no others to report. I have ran 185gr, 200gr, and 230gr weights from several different manufacturers with no problems.

Accessories are a personal thing. I had to go through some trial and error to figure out what accessories were worth their weight.

-Probably the most important item is ammunition. If you don't already reload, you may want to look into it. You can save yourself a lot of money by loading your own. The cheapest ammo at my local Wal-mart is roughly $20 for 50 rounds. My cost is $8 per 50 rounds. I started out using a single stage press. My start up cost was right at $800. The press had paid itself off within the first 6 months of use.

-I would recommend a good set of night sights. I prefer Warren Tactical sights or Heinie straight eights.

-If you plan on carrying it, a good holster is a must. I carried my G21SF in a Blade-tech NANO IWB. I also used a Galco summer comfort IWB, but did not like it as much as the Blade-tech.

-Its good to have plenty of magazines. I like to have at least 6 mags for my carry gun. I can run three as range mags and use the other three for carry. I like to have plenty of mags on hand, so the more the merrier

-I like the extended slide lock lever, but not for use as a slide release. I find that it is easier to engage when you are manually locking the slide back for admin purposes.

-The back strap channel plug is optional, but I use them. I have heard both yays and nays on them.

-I have a stainless steel after market barrel for my G21 so I could shoot my lead reloads. My barrel is from Lone Wolf Distributors and has been reliable so far. They normally run around $100.

-The stainless steel guide rods are optional as well. Some of my Glocks have them, some don't.

-I am using an extended magazine release on my G17. I cut it down to where it was mid way between factory length and the extended length, so far so good.

-I am testing out a Talon grip on my G17 and I like it so far. The sand decal grips are also good if you find that the frame isn't as grippy as you would like.

The Lone Haranguer
August 25, 2010, 08:47 AM
Must have upgrades or accessories?

Night sights are nice to have. Nothing else is really needed.

GunAdmirer
August 25, 2010, 12:02 PM
Thanks for all the advice. Your suggestions, experience and ideas are helpful. I'm very pleased with the pistol. I think I will get some spare parts and a light for the rail as suggested.

I need to get a couple of extra mags. How is the latest version marked?

Looks like .45 acp defense ammo is still pretty hard to come by.

A1Fiddler
August 26, 2010, 12:43 AM
I love my Glock 21. Night sights are a must. I have Tru-glo TFOs and they're great. The accessories I opted for are extended slide catch, 3.5# connector/6# Wolff trigger spring, grip plug, and an Arrendondo (I think I spelled that right) +4 extension on one of my mags. 17+1 rounds of .45ACP is just awesome.

Balrog
August 26, 2010, 03:12 PM
One of the great things about the Glock is that you can do pretty much any work you need done on it yourself. Its all on youtube.com

Ben86
August 26, 2010, 03:27 PM
If you have had many glocks then you know what to expect from this one.

From my experience they are really accurate and although the grip is portly, it fits my hand pretty well none the less.

GunAdmirer
August 27, 2010, 04:43 PM
I had a chance to shoot the "new to me" Glock 21 this morning.

I fired two full magazines of 13 +1 rounds with no malfunctions. Accuracy was good. The .45 recoil was noticeably more than the 9mm recoil I am used to experiencing!

I like it. It is a big, heavy and powerful pistol. I would feel real good about having it in a home defense situation.

Ben86
August 27, 2010, 06:10 PM
I need to get a couple of extra mags. How is the latest version marked?

The gen 4 mags have notches on both sides of the magazines. They still work in all glocks.

I'm glad your g21 worked out well, just as I thought it would.

sohcgt2
August 27, 2010, 09:33 PM
I have a G21 and fire Hornady TAP PD or Cor-Bon +p as a defensive load depending on what's available. Like all the others, I have only good things to say about all of my Glock equipment.

GLOOB
August 29, 2010, 12:47 AM
My advice is to 1. Shoot it. 2. Be amazed. 3. Repeat 1 and 2.

DHart
August 31, 2010, 03:43 AM
Gotta love the bewonderment of the G21SF... 14 rounds of .45acp goodness on tap. Sweet!

Nokin3D
September 2, 2010, 12:10 AM
I've been eyeing a G21C, think i'll pull the trigger after reading so many good reviews on it. Thx

ET
September 2, 2010, 07:36 PM
I own a 21sf & love it. Just received an Advantage Arms .22lr conversion kit for it via FedEx today. Life is good. I keep eyeing a Glock 20. I want a 10mm bad, but no worse than I want a 1911 or an AR. I want too many guns for the amount of $ in my possession. :mad:

Hummmm, I could run up the credit card..........more.:rolleyes:

jmr40
September 2, 2010, 10:20 PM
Personal preference really, but I like the standard 5.5 lb trigger. As others have stated the 3.5 lb trigger is really not much lighter. I feel that while slightly heavier, the standard trigger is more crisp and predictable. The 3.5 lb trigger is lighter, but mushy in my experience.

Other than night sites and extra mags I prefer them as is.

MYREDTAIL
September 3, 2010, 03:16 AM
I bought my G21 about 4 yrs ago & I carry it, often in a Summer Special IWB holster on the warmer day's & in the colder weather, I use a shoulder holster, As I am awaiting delivery of a new vertical shoulder holster for my G21 from the VEGA holster co. for thoes that do not know, Vega is a premium, holster co based in Italy, & has only one USA distributer, Python Leather co out of Missouri, they carry Vega's full line holsters at a great prices & their leather holster's rival any of the USA made holsters,Just as good if not better than the top USA holster companies.

A1Fiddler
September 4, 2010, 12:33 AM
Personal preference really, but I like the standard 5.5 lb trigger. As others have stated the 3.5 lb trigger is really not much lighter. I feel that while slightly heavier, the standard trigger is more crisp and predictable. The 3.5 lb trigger is lighter, but mushy in my experience.

Other than night sites and extra mags I prefer them as is.

I found that my accuracy noticably increased with the 3.5lb trigger. Just my experience though. :)

un2nedg
September 23, 2010, 05:51 AM
My first pistol was a Glock 21SF, as of now its outfitted with an extended slide release, m3x illuninator, and is being fed a mix of Federal Hydrashoks and SPEER gold dots. Another cool thing is I just bought a KRISS TDI mag extender and now have a 30 rd magazine to feed it. I'll make a range trip fri to see if the mag ex functions ,but it is made by MAGPUL so there should be no problems.

DHart
September 23, 2010, 05:53 AM
Sweet gun, the 21SF! Love mine.

http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp59/zmonki/Daily%20Carry/G21SF_Sage_Preon_2.jpg

bartman06
September 23, 2010, 01:25 PM
Mine never had a problem with any type of ammo. Wwb, federal, blazer, nothing!

Some times i miss it. It was great. Good choice!

Beach Nut
September 23, 2010, 01:40 PM
I own a Glock 21SF and all I can say is load up and happy shooting!
I've had no FTF, no misfeeds or any other issues with it yet. If you
fire reloads, watch for crimped or damaged cases. Also avoid leaded
slugs, Glock barrels do lead rather quickly. I'm so impressed with my
Glock 21SF that I'm now looking at getting a Glock 26 or 27 to upgrade
my concealed carry choices. Glocks are the AK47 of the pistol world,
they aren't pretty but they almost always shoot when you want them
to.

oasis618
September 24, 2010, 01:40 AM
^^agreed.

the 3.5lb actually gives a 4.5lb pull so it's not too light for carry, for folks concerned about that. glock started calling it the "4.5" connector a couple years go. not sure why glock ever called it "3.5....
I'm picking up a 30SF pretty soon so I'm interested too. So if the 3.5 is really 4.5 and they sell both a 3.5 and a 4.5 then I want to buy the 3.5 to achieve a 4.5 pull right....!? :eek:

And, stick with the Glock OEM part or is one of the aftermarket options better?
:eek:
Also...if the 3.5 is 4.5, then is the factory 5.5 really a 6.5?

There is no parking in a red zone. What's your vector Victor? :eek:

REAPER4206969
September 24, 2010, 02:10 AM
Also...if the 3.5 is 4.5, then is the factory 5.5 really a 6.5?
They were originally labeled 3.5lb. and 5.0lb. Glock changed the label to accurately reflect real pulls with other stock parts to 4.5lb. and 5.5lb.

GLOOB
September 24, 2010, 03:21 AM
Trigger pull is somewhat relative. IMO, the G21 does not benefit from a lightened trigger pull as much as the 9mm models.

Compared to my G27 or my G19, my G21's trigger pull is noticeably heavier and it has some creep. But since the grip is larger and the gun is longer and heavier, this more than balances out. I shoot the 21 much more accurately. I can easily dry-fire it all day long without any perceptible movement of the sights.

The other thing is the "Plaxico" factor. The heavier a handgun is, the heavier the trigger should be, to reduce the chance for an ND if the gun is mishandled.

ET
September 24, 2010, 10:48 AM
I'm so impressed with my
Glock 21SF that I'm now looking at getting a Glock 26 or 27 to upgrade
my concealed carry choices.

I bought a G21sf and fell in love with it. My next purchase was a Glock 27. I added a 9mm conversion barrel & factory mags so that I could shoot 9mm in it also. I bought a 357sig conversion barrel this year and am now carrying it as a 357sig. Get the 27 instead of the 26. With barrel drop-ins you have more diversitility with the 27. If you buy the 26, you get a 9mm gun... nothing more.

GunAdmirer
September 26, 2010, 12:39 AM
Since I started this thread, I bought 5 more magazines from forum members and a spare guide rod and magazine insert. I plan to buy a spare floorplate too. My only upgrade will probably be new sights at some point. I'm leaving everything else stock - which is my normal approach.

I've shot Remington JHPs, Winchester PDX JHPs, Hornady XTP JHPs and Winchester FMJ ammo. All fed 100% in various magazines and combinations. Accuracy is excellent when I do my part.

I also bought some 45 acp brass, reloading trays and dies but haven't put them to good use yet.

I'm very pleased with the pistol. It is a little big, and the recoil is harder than my 9mms for sure. I have to admit - I do feel better protected with a 45 pistol.

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