WWII collection photo attempt.

I tried playing with different setings on my camera to try and get that "coverpage" type of shot. I tried different camera settings and different lighting.

Thought Id post up a few of my favs and see what you guys think.

Please feel free to critique my shots.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff117/bkjeffrey/P1010487.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff117/bkjeffrey/P1010488.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff117/bkjeffrey/P1010489.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff117/bkjeffrey/P1010490.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff117/bkjeffrey/P1010492.jpg

nice

What kind of camera, lens, settings, etc?? What kind of lighting did you use?
I love the layouts but the photos seem a little "noisy" (a term used to describe your film sensitivity settings...usually means an ISO setting that was too high) This could be due to the posting on the internet (losing some quality) or many other factors.

Overall though they look great!!

whoa!! gun porn next time put NSFW in the title.

great looking guns, the grips on the 1911 in the first pic are what drew me in.

No cartridges for the carbine?

Very nice collection and pictures. :)

Not bad at all sir! I'd like to see the second one in both black and white and sepia "aging".

I like! I have a pic I'd like to add, but I don't think it's WWII correct. :)

I liked number 2 and number 4 of your photo set. They have the least amount of glare on the M1 rifle and the carbine. Also you may want to cut down on the amount of accessories (ammo, rope, clips), as they can make the picture somewhat cluttered and distract the viewer from the subject matter. Overall though a fairly decent composition.

Maybe it's just me, but I prefer it when the firearms are all pointing in more or less the same direction. Otherwise it looks wrong somehow.

What kind of camera, lens, settings, etc?? What kind of lighting did you use?

Just a basic Panasonic Lumix DMC LZ7. The settings I tried were "Intelligent ISO" and "normal picture" Lighting was a combination of sunlight through my window, and different lamps in the room. Some were lamps off, blinds pulled etc. This camera has more adjustments and settings than I know how to use and Im just learning to use it.

No cartridges for the carbine?

I wish, cant afford them suckers.

Also you may want to cut down on the amount of accessories (ammo, rope, clips), as they can make the picture somewhat cluttered and distract the viewer from the subject matter.

I agree, and I noticed that as well as soon as I went back and reviewed them.

usually means an ISO setting that was too high) This could be due to the posting on the internet

They were like that before I posted them, its my settings I guess, I didnt know that before, thanks. Ill try to fix it and get some less cluttered shots. Ill add in some Carbine ammo if someone wants to donate it.

I liked #2 and #3. I'd have liked them even more if the .45 had been a WWII Colt or RR. :D

RR

Yea me too!

Awesome props, setting, wrong film, try b&w high contrast thru a yellow filter. Here is an example of a B-17 that flew in a couple years ago, with an unfiltered lens, and good ol verichrome pan 35 mm. While there was color film in ww2, it was really grainy, expensive stuff and not used near as much as B&W. The standard camera for the signal corp was the speed grafic. Lenses were largely uncoated. Period shots, with modern dig is just,,off. Think of it like watching the movie sgt York, and having him look at a digital watch. 400 asa verichrome pan was the film of the day. You can set your dig cam to b&w, 400 asa and get some of that old look, outdoor or incandesant lighting, or flash bulbs if you can find them for the proper lighting. I shot that with a contax II, 85mm lens, then photo shopped it.

Those look like lead bullets for the 45, here is some period ammo with some effects thrown in it might look better.

I had misunderstood the title and expected more something like this:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z159/Andyd173/Winterfeldzug.jpg

My father in Russia 1941, close to Smolensk. Unknown camera and settings:D.

The photo of the machine gun crew adds yet another element, the effect of time, on photopaper, which was printed, and developed in another process rather like the negative. The flattening of the photo paper finish over time is hard to reproduce. A significant amount of resolution is lost over time, and even more in the copy process. The lack of crispness is what sets off a period photo, over a modern reproduction. Great shot.

You could always combine old and new (http://sergey-larenkov.livejournal.com/). :)

I don't know from photography, but experience tells me that the ammo bearer (right side of gun) is going to get nothing but a face full of VERY hot brass.

ed

Were long M1 carbine mags, like the one shown, used in WWII? Or were they only issued after the war, with the M2 carbines? I'm just asking...

I have no idea

I don't know from photography, but experience tells me that the ammo bearer (right side of gun) is going to get nothing but a face full of VERY hot brass.


If it ejects the spent brass like its successor, the MG 42/ MG3, I know from my own experience, that it ejects through the bottom, not to the side. The Ladeschütze, the one helping with the ammo is on the left side, the spotter on the right side. He has the spare barrel and probaly the asbestos glove.

Were long M1 carbine mags. like the one shown, used in WWII? Or were they only issued after the war, with the M2 carbines? I'mjust asking...

Very very few. The 30 round magazine with its hold-open follower was recommeded for adoption on April 26, 1945

I had misunderstood the title and expected more something like this:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z159/Andyd173/Winterfeldzug.jpg

My father in Russia 1941, close to Smolensk. Unknown camera and settings:D.
http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy117/Aznageel/P8280174.jpg

This is from some of the stuff my dad brought back in '45.

Az

Here's some more:

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy117/Aznageel/P8280172.jpg

I'll do some USA stuff a little later.

Az

The stories are also priceless, every soldier brought those home. It's sad to see that generation all but gone. They were all heros, everyone of them. Their individual sagas may never make it to the silver screen, but they are as good, or better, than any flick made.

The photos are very nice. In fact you've done such a good job getting the light even and broad, some drama you see in magazine covers may be missing.

Try using just the window with a sheet of white poster board to kick a little fill light.

the items in azb's posts are absolutely amazing! I would love to have that collection of goods.

I believe given the carbine has a bayonet lug, it is a M2 carbine. While those were produced late in the war, they did not see service during the war due to supply problems. The 30 round magazine didn't see war service, either. They did see plenty of service in the Korean conflict and the Vietnam War.

Nice weapons, nice display.

The bayonet lug does not distinguish the M-1 from the M-2. The lug would have been seen very late in WW2 and on M-1s and M-2s; maybe only in the Pacific campaign in any real numbers. The M-2 is distinguished by a selector switch and internal parts enabling full auto fire, which is why a 30 round magazine was developed.
Yes, they would primarily see use in Korea. >>>>IF<< any would see use in WW2 it would be in the Pacific theater and only in very small numbers.

Only thing missing out of those photo's is a 1903!

The bayonet lug does not distinguish the M-1 from the M-2. The lug would have been seen very late in WW2 and on M-1s and M-2s; maybe only in the Pacific campaign in any real numbers. The M-2 is distinguished by a selector switch and internal parts enabling full auto fire, which is why a 30 round magazine was developed.
Yes, they would primarily see use in Korea. >>>>IF<< any would see use in WW2 it would be in the Pacific theater and only in very small numbers.
Maybe I should have said presence of the lug is a good rule of thumb. Rule of thumb being generally but not always. I suspect the 30 rd mag went with the M2s.

Seems to me the carbine is an awfully short weapon for bayonet fighting. It's about four inches shorter than the Garand, but seems more perhaps because it's so light.

Late in the Pacific being Operation Iceberg?

Thanks for the correction.

Seems to me the carbine is an awfully short weapon for bayonet fighting. It's about four inches shorter than the Garand, but seems more perhaps because it's so light.

That's not the only thing wrong with it; there were reports that, when a bayo was used, if the enemy was stuck in the ribs and the soldier tried to withdraw the carbine, if it stuck, it might pull the lug loose and thus "disassemble" the bayo & forend top. I suspect this happened very rarely as bayonets were not used as a primary fighting tool (they were useful for goading prisoners though).
The fact is that the carbine's baynet lug was just not as well designed as the Garand's ...plus, as you say, the Garand is longer and eviler and puts a greater distance between the combatants & prisoner/enemy --- and that is always a good thing!!!

yes, okinawa and later. my dad had one.

anyone know if the springfield "US" stamps on the 1911 grip were ever actually on WWII pistols? I have not seen that outside of Springfield. I love the 'US' stamp, but not sure it was ever actually present on USGI pistols. Just curious. Great photos all around. If it were, I would be much more inclined to buy the USGI from Springfield.

Not on my dad's colt 1911a1 bringback

:D

These are some awesome photos of WWII items. The history in each photo is so deep. Very Cool!