Does this 9mm exist?


August 28, 2010, 07:53 PM
I'm looking for a 9mm semi auto...

1. Just as reliable as a GLOCK 26. (Not almost... I want one that is just as reliable.)

2. Same size or smaller than a GLOCK 26.

3. But is slimmer than the G26.

4. And must be hammer fired.

5. A manual safety would be nice.

6. No Kel Tecs.

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August 28, 2010, 08:03 PM
S&w 3913

August 28, 2010, 08:11 PM
A Sig P239 might fit your bill, but it is quite a bit heavier than a Glock 26.

M&P9c, XDsc, and kahr PM9 are the same size but striker fired.
Beretta Px4 Compact and Hk USP Compact are both chunky monkey's.

This is a tough question... are you looking for a ccw?

August 28, 2010, 08:32 PM
The Rohrbaugh fills all your requirements except the safety.

August 28, 2010, 08:41 PM
A Springfield Armory EMP 9 would come sort of close, but its grip is a bit longer than the G26's and also costs about double the price of a G26. I have not personally shot an EMP, but heard/read nothing but great things about them (most say it is very reliable).

August 28, 2010, 08:54 PM
If you want "hammer fired with a safety" seems like you'll have to go with a micro 1911, like AZGlock13 said they are really expensive....Unlike AZ most of what I read on these don't give them high marks for reliability, until they get alot of extra factory tuning.....
Most people that want a "thinner Glock26" buy Kahrs,. either a P9 or CW9. They are striker fired and have no external safety but are reliable. I've had one of each and both were rock solid performers.

August 28, 2010, 08:55 PM
think you are asking for too much dude...remember there is no such thing as a perfect gun...if its mechanical, it will fail at some point, and all things have their drawbacks

u gonna have to compromise man

August 28, 2010, 09:10 PM
I'm not overly familiar with it, but it sounds like a CZ Rami might fit close to what you're looking for.

August 28, 2010, 09:20 PM
If you want a very slim 9mm look at the Walther PPS.

August 28, 2010, 09:27 PM
Closest thing i can think of is the Colt new agent in 9mm.
But seeing your criteria you'll want perfect concealability as well as combat pistol ergonomics.

August 28, 2010, 09:28 PM
The HK P2000SK comes close. It has no manual safety. At the slide stops, which is the widest point on the gun, it is just a tad thicker than the G26.

August 28, 2010, 09:49 PM
Seriously nice carry gun. Meets your criteria pretty well:)

August 28, 2010, 10:27 PM
Do they still make the SW CS9?

Onward Allusion
August 28, 2010, 11:01 PM
S&W M&P Compact in 9mm. Virtually identical in dimensions to the Glock 26 and it's 12+1.

August 28, 2010, 11:02 PM
I think you're talking about the S&W 3913/3914 too

the Springfield EMP might sneak into the size requirement if you get the flush bottom magazines for it...otherwise it is about the size of the Kahr CW9

...which I reviewed here

August 28, 2010, 11:14 PM
Get the Kahr, you won't regret it. If you end up not liking it, it keeps it's value pretty good.

August 28, 2010, 11:20 PM
This ( perhaps?

August 28, 2010, 11:31 PM
If you decide to drop the hammer requirement you could get a Ruger SR9c. Its striker fired and manuel safety.

August 29, 2010, 01:55 AM
Colt made a 1911 style pistol, albeit in .45 ACP, called the CCO. The CCO was built on a Commander frame with 4 1/4 bbl, and the grip was shortened to Officer's model length. The longer bbl & slide, and resultant longer recoil spring travel will provide the reliability you seek. The shortened grip will provide the concealabilty you seek. Last, the 1911 base provides the hammer & manual safety you seek. I'm sure any of the reputable 1911 smiths or custom builders would make you a 9mm CCO - if you're willing to pay for it.

August 29, 2010, 02:20 AM
S&W 3914!

Based on the criteria you mentioned I would say the 3914 or the 3913 would fit the bill. I never leave home without my 3914, it's my daily ccw and I would take it over a Glock any day!

Here's mine....

August 29, 2010, 10:00 AM
Here's a 3913:

August 29, 2010, 11:01 AM
I have 2 3913s. Unfortunately, I can't say they are "just as reliable" as a Glock 26, because mine have been MORE reliable than the Glock 26 they replaced.

August 29, 2010, 11:33 AM
I had a CS45, nice gun, but limited as far as capacity, accesories, and heavier than my Glock by over 4 ozs, and even more blocky than the Glock. I never had a cs9 or shorty 40, but did consider it. If you look over at the smith and wesson forums, you can find most of these guns over a week of looking. They make that Cs in 9,40, and 45.

August 29, 2010, 12:12 PM
Well you had the Kel-Tec PF-9 nailed until your last question.

What about the Kahr PM9?

August 29, 2010, 04:57 PM
HK P2000SK

Okay, this probably isn't slimmer, so how about a Walther PPS?

August 29, 2010, 11:10 PM
I don't think they make the CS9 anymore, but they are not that hard to find used.
Mine is easy and pleasant to shoot, accurate, and has never had a failure.

August 29, 2010, 11:30 PM
I also have a PF-9, and there is nothing wrong with it for carry. I wouldn't shoot it a lot, but it will get the job done. I put an armalaser on mine and it still is weghtless.

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