Zykan B rated safe


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wildboar
August 30, 2010, 02:29 AM
Zykan - what extra details can you tell us about the new B rated safes you have on your website?

http://www.zykansafe.com/brategunsafes.html

They appear to be the new contender for the best value on the market for a well constructed safe.

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a1abdj
August 30, 2010, 09:16 PM
A friend of mine in the safe business came up with this safe. In brief, it is a tweaked commercial fire & burglary safe that has been converted for use as a gun safe. The conversion is essentially a nicer paint job and a gun interior.

The body is cement filled, and has dual 10 gauge inner and outer walls. This gives you a total of 1/4" worth of steel on the body in addition to the cement.

The door is also cement filled, and has multiple steel plates that have a cumulative thickness of 1/2", with cement fill in between.

The safe has all of the other "normal" safe features such as a UL rated lock, mechanical relocker, and hard plate. It also has the addition of a glass plate relocker with an adjustable remote mount. Essentially the relock on your safe may be in a different location than the relock on the other guy's.

The bad: It's a no frills safe. They are only available in two textured colors. The interiors are chunky and plain. The paint is nice, but I have seen better. It's a great buy for the money, but the focus is on security, not looks.

If you have any other specific questions, I would be happy to answer them.

wildboar
August 31, 2010, 01:38 PM
No frills is exactly what some of us that aren't driving around in chromed out H2's are looking for. My unfinished, concrete basement + white or black functional safe = perfect.

I have no desire to spend extra $$ on mirrors, lights, chinchilla lined interiors, or 32 layer porcelain enamel finishes.

Is the construction on this one what you refer to as "composite injection?" It appears that it would be stronger than an AMSEC because it is two 10 ga layers instead of a 10 outer, 16 inner.

Is poured concrete used in these just as effective as any other concrete out there?

bp78
September 8, 2010, 05:37 PM
Thread bump for the previous question about the concrete used?

Had I not just bought an Amsec 6636 from a1abdj I too would really be considering one of these B rate safes.

Shadow 7D
September 8, 2010, 07:19 PM
Hmmm, what is the fire rating, and is the concrete considered a "damp' type fireprotection?

Damn, and they are twice as heavy as a 'gun safe' RSC

Sebastian the Ibis
September 8, 2010, 08:04 PM
I'm thrilled to see that this is a thread about gun safes, but you might want to think about changing the name of this product. I thought it was a Neo-Nazi Holocaust denial thread when I saw the name. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zyklon_B (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zyklon_B)


Shana Tova!

nhm16
September 9, 2010, 12:29 AM
I'm thrilled to see that this is a thread about gun safes, but you might want to think about changing the name of this product. I thought it was a Neo-Nazi Holocaust denial thread when I saw the name. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zyklon_B (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zyklon_B)


Shana Tova!
Well, if you look at the web site, Zykan is the gentleman's last name. Nothing to do with Zyklon B.

a1abdj
September 9, 2010, 11:33 AM
Thread bump for the previous question about the concrete used?

The manufacturers keep the exact mixture they use secret, but the cement in this particular safe is going to be similar to a regular portland cement type.

Hmmm, what is the fire rating, and is the concrete considered a "damp' type fireprotection?


All insulations will have some moisture. This particular insulation is pretty dry.

I'm thrilled to see that this is a thread about gun safes, but you might want to think about changing the name of this product. I thought it was a Neo-Nazi Holocaust denial thread when I saw the name. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zyklon_B


I'm always curious when I see something that has a name similar to my last name. I'm assuming they aren't some random assembly of letters, and come from somewhere. What makes this reference a bit more interesting is that my family name allegedly comes from Bohemia.

I doubt there's any direct relationship, as most of "us" ended up here in the US long before WWII.

JohnBT
September 9, 2010, 12:20 PM
It's just fancy prussic acid. Zyklon B was introduced in the 1920s and only differed slightly from the A variant. It was used around the world for fumigation of plants and buildings, etc. The U.S. even used it to fumigate train cars coming from Mexico and to fumigate the Mexicans' clothes.

It never occurred to me to confuse your name with a Brand Name pesticide.

Shadow 7D
September 9, 2010, 08:24 PM
German for cyclone, english translation would be cyclone B, except it isn't the actual word, but sounds like it, just like some of the american brand names

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