Springfield XD9 38,000 round mark


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TriTone
August 31, 2010, 12:04 AM
Hi all,

I have a Springfield xd9 I have had for just over 5 years now, and vie been extremely happy with it. I had two stovepipes somewhere between round 50 and round 100, but other than that it has been totally reliable, until two days ago. It is completely stock.
I was shooting Winchester white box and had three jams, one of which I've not seen before, on three different magazines. ( so I'm ruling the magazines out). Two of the jams were stovepipes, the other was what looked like two bullet trying to go into the chamber at once. ( does that have a special name as well?) now to be fair, the gun had around 1400 rounds over 2 days put through it with no cleaning, but in the past I have neglected it much worse as I consider it my workhorse, and have been curious to see what it can take. I've been pretty impressed. I got to 3800 rounds with no cleaning over a week of shooting and no problems. (ive never gone longer than a week without cleaning).

So anyways, besides reporting on how pleased I've been with this autoloader, at this point is there anything that might be getting to the point that it needs to be replaced, like springs or something?

Thanks,

Tri

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DasFriek
August 31, 2010, 12:55 AM
They make complete spring replacement kits for rebuilding the gun for reliability.
I think i found them by Googling "XD after market parts"
Follow that up with a new recoil spring and all new mags. Mags can get bent and metal can deform over time so a rebuild is just a waste of time on a mag thats seen so much use.

This would give you a chance to fully tear it down and clean and inspect it. It may have internal issues you cant see besides springs.

To me that gun has seen alot of abuse and they will eventually wear out the springs before anything else.
Do a close inspection of the extractor also and compare it to the shape of a new one from a pic online so you can see if its worn too badly.

Whats not necessary is a complete rebuild of the slide internals or the firing and trigger parts of the frame, But if you want to go another 38k rounds with no issues it may be a worthy upgrade.

BTW, Now my XD SC .40 has a goal.

wow6599
August 31, 2010, 02:13 AM
At the rate you shoot your XD, I would replace the recoil spring(s) at least every year.
They probably run around $8-$10.

kludge
August 31, 2010, 10:35 AM
Don't rule out the magazines.

After almost 40k rounds you need to replace the springs.

And like the others have said it's a good time for a complete inspection.

possum
August 31, 2010, 11:02 AM
At the rate you shoot your XD, I would replace the recoil spring(s) at least every year.
They probably run around $8-$10.
if you wait to do it every year with the way that you shoot you will cause major issues. change recoil springs every 3-5k. depending on what spring that you use, ammo that you are using etc. with a 17# in my xd service model 40 with hot loads it goes about 2k. with soft shooting reloads or factory ammo i change at 3,000rds.

the other was what looked like two bullet trying to go into the chamber at once. that is called a double feed.

I would say that your double feed is due to magazine issue. which with the xd they heed to be cleaned every once in a while. also you should change mag springs out when you start having issues. for me my training magazines springs get chaged every 6 months, and my defense mag springs changed every year.

If you haven't changed your recoil spring recently that is probally the cause if the stove pipes.

maintain it, clean it, and change parts as needed and you will be good to go. over 17,500rds in my xd and still going strong. sometimes you need to be proactive.

TriTone
August 31, 2010, 12:56 PM
Thanks for all the info and advice, ive learned a lot on how to keep my xd a chuggin. Sounds like it's time to order some springs!

harmon rabb
August 31, 2010, 01:41 PM
Yeah. 38k rounds on the original springs? Lol. That's pretty impressive, actually.

verdun59
August 31, 2010, 05:24 PM
Very impressive, I sure like my XD9 but it doesn't see anywhere near that kind of count. I'm surprised that you haven't gotten the comments about it being made in Croatia that seem to always come forth, although for the life of me I can't figure out what difference that makes. They are good solid guns.

wow6599
August 31, 2010, 05:40 PM
I'm surprised that you haven't gotten the comments about it being made in Croatia that seem to always come forth
Most of the time that gets brought up is when folks compare the XD, Glock, M&P, etc.
I know I bring up the fact that they are made in Croatia......I'll take my American made M&P, thank you very much.

Back on topic, 38,000 is very impressive. Hope to hear about another 38k.

SlamFire1
August 31, 2010, 07:12 PM
I've been pretty impressed. I got to 3800 rounds with no cleaning over a week of shooting and no problems.


That is impressive.

John Wayne
August 31, 2010, 08:11 PM
While everything in the gun might not need replacing yet, with 38k rounds through it, I would probably just go ahead and replace all the springs and buy new mags as well. You might be paying for stuff you don't need, but if you bought 38k rounds of ammo, replacement parts are a drop in the expense bucket in comparison.

I also wouldn't mind seeing pics of what your XD9 looks like. My XDM only has about 4,000 rounds through it so far.

TriTone
August 31, 2010, 11:52 PM
I'll post some pics sometime this week, I'm on the road ATM.

I have been very pleased with my XD!

Snowdog
September 1, 2010, 12:41 AM
38,000 rounds?

Heck, the cost of a new recoil spring will be a mere drop in the bucket for what you've probably spent on ammunition so far.
For me, the cost for me to reload 38,000 rounds of 9mm, assuming I'm using range brass would cost around $5,000.

It's nice to hear these pistols are up for such a round count without parts failure.

TriTone
September 1, 2010, 12:39 PM
Ya, you know how some people have said that like 90% of ammo is bought out by 5-10% of shooters? I think I'm a significant contributor to that 5-10% lmao. I haven't even started reloading yet...so it's cost a lot more than 5,000 by now I'm sure. But I've enjoyed every round of it!

Nasty
September 1, 2010, 12:52 PM
I've over 80,000 through my Oct 1999 HS2000. It was one of the first imported to the US and I got it for an embarrassingly low price as no one knew anything about them.

All original parts except for springs...the first set lasted about 5 years, as yours has. I did a complete spring replacement at that time and expect to do it again either this year or next.

FWIW, I did not have to pay for most of the ammo...as a SAMTU, I was provided 1000 rounds every month for proficiency. You take that plus what I was shooting in competition...it burns up pretty quickly.

I should have bought two when I got this one.

mljdeckard
September 1, 2010, 01:02 PM
You have certainly gotten your money's worth out of it. Most shooters don't shoot that much in their whole life. I think you (and it) are entitled to a little break and TLC. Take it to a smith, have him do an overhaul with a complete set of new Wolff springs, he will know where to get the kit. I'm thinking the extractor spring in particular might be dead. And like the others have said, the recoil spring and mags may need a look too. BUT, I think that if the recoil spring is still chugging, it might be over-engineered specifically to live through this kind of usage. But I'll bet you a dollar if you replace all the springs, including the mag springs, it will run like new.

ForumSurfer
September 1, 2010, 01:10 PM
I'll post some pics sometime this week, I'm on the road ATM.

Please do!

verdun59
September 1, 2010, 03:21 PM
Help me out here wow6599. You say you bring up the fact that XDs are made in Croatia when people are comparing XD, Glock, MP, etc.
My question is: Are these people comparing the fore mentioned guns, or the countries in which they are made ?

DualBerettas
September 3, 2010, 07:28 PM
First you said 38,000 then you said 3800. Which is it?

DB

DasFriek
September 3, 2010, 07:56 PM
First you said 38,000 then you said 3800. Which is it?
DB

The way i read it is he has 38k total rounds and this past week put 3800 threw it with no cleaning.

possum
September 4, 2010, 03:16 AM
and buy new mags as well.
no new mags needed, get the wolff +10% springs from brownells or wherever you get your xd parts and you will be good to go.

the only place that i have been able to find factory recoil spring assemblies is at www.pistolgear.com however they have been out of stock for a long time, and i don't know when they will get more in. i have been using a wolff guide rod and recoil spring in my xd service model for about 4 years now. #17 spring. the good thing is that the recoil srping comes with a striker spring too. so i change them out at 3000rds.

Kymasabe
September 4, 2010, 06:44 PM
If I were you, I'd send it back to Springfield and complain! No, just kidding about the complaining part. I'd send it back to Springfield, let them completely tear it down and do a fresh rebuild for you with factory parts. I've spoken with gunsmiths who enjoy doing a complete rebuild for someone who's really used/loved their gun. They gain some insight into what componants are wearing at high round counts and they often have a sense of pride restoring a tired/worn older gun back to factory fresh.

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