Anyone done an XD trigger fluff and buff?


PDA






DasFriek
August 31, 2010, 03:09 AM
I have a personal rule i DON'T make modifications to any "Work" gun which i consider my XD SC .40 as i do ccw it when my 1911 is just too much gun for the occasion.

Even tho i don't believe in swapping parts i do feel its ok to clean up and polish the action and anything related that will make a more smoother trigger pull.
Im not aiming at lighter, Just smoother and crisper to keep my aim more steady.

Ive seen many kits and parts out there so its nice to know its always an option tho.

So has anyone had any luck?
Has anyone found a guide?
A complete tear down guide would help also if one exists?

Am i mistaken this may be useless on a striker fired gun? Ive never done one so i dont know. But i figure most guns have a trigger engagement point and a sear that can be cleaned up.

Id say my skill level is moderate as ive done more than a few trigger jobs, So i have the "How to polish part" down pat by now.

If you enjoyed reading about "Anyone done an XD trigger fluff and buff?" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!
schmeky
August 31, 2010, 08:40 AM
Go to the XD Talk Forum. Tons of trigger kit info. You can achieve an excellent trigger w/o the use of a kit as well.

MrCleanOK
August 31, 2010, 09:13 AM
I installed a Springer Precision kit in one of my XD45s. The sear and springs were great, took the pull down to a very smooth 4-ish pounds. I never could get the trigger bar shaped right to reset the trigger 100% reliably, so I took it out and put the stock trigger bar back in. It has been 100% since then.

An XD trigger isn't terribly complicated. If you're mechanically inclined and have a set of proper pin punches, you can figure it out on your kitchen table in a few minutes.

340PD
August 31, 2010, 09:48 AM
When I got my XDm 45 I gave it to the gunsmith to put on different sights (Truglo TFO). I asked hin if there was anything that could be improved on the trigger pull without new parts. He went through the gun and smoothed any rough parts. The trigger pull is now lighter and smoother. It sits at 5.25 Lbs with a nice even stroke and crisp letoff. The XDm has a shorter reset than your XD. If you want a reliable super trigger in that gun I would send it to.
http://www.springerprecision.com/
or
http://www.powderriverprecision.com/

Either one will make you smile. I have done lots of Volquartsen/clark trigger jobs on Rugers but, if it is my main home defense gun, I want the pro's doing it. Reliability is most important to me.

possum
August 31, 2010, 11:10 AM
i would have, but honestly mine got alot better with rounds through it, i could tell a difference at the 500rd mark, the ,1000rd mark, the 1,500rd mark, and since it has been "perfect" for me anyway, i couldn't be happier. maybe after 17,500rds i am just so used to it that i think it is perfect, but compared to other guns the "broke in" xd trigger is the best on a stiker gun that i have found, owned, or have tried.

DasFriek
August 31, 2010, 11:51 AM
I didn't even look for an XD forum, I should have known there was one tho. They have forums for anything and everything anymore :)

Id like to stay away from kits as im not really interested in lightening the pull, Just smoothing it out. IMO the pull weight is perfect for a DAO gun since im a SAO guy i have a hard time of trusting such a light trigger on a DAO with no manual safety.

Im pretty well versed in fluff and buff, And i can lighten a "Fun" gun which i allow my self to and they end up amazing and i dont use after market parts when possible and prefer shims.
But thats not acceptable on a carry/work gun tho.

Ive had my 1911 1.5 years so far and have almost hit 2000 rounds. So hitting high rounds counts like yours could take many years to wait for it to happen on its own.
But some rubbing compound on the sear engagement point for a 100 or so dry fires will do the same thing pretty quickly.

Paying a Smith isnt an option at this point even if i would allow myself to put in an after market package.

Mudinyeri
August 31, 2010, 03:06 PM
Yup, check out www.xdtalk.com for more specific info on XD's of all types.

Personally, I have polished the sear on two of my XD's and it does help a bit with the smoothness. It doesn't lighten the pull noticeably, but it does clean it up a bit.

That's all I've done so far with my XD triggers.

Polishing the feed ramp isn't a bad idea either. The feed ramp on my XD45 looked pretty bad under a lighted magnifying glass.

DasFriek
August 31, 2010, 05:18 PM
Thats exactly what i want to make range trips more enjoyable with a smooth trigger. But not lighten it as i dont want a light DAO trigger for CCW.
I never looked at the feed ramp much, But now that you mention it i did have a fmj round hang on the ramp on my last range trip.
A slap on the slide was all it took and is no big issue, But i certainly wouldn't want that to happen in a time of need. Thats the only thing ever to happen in 500 rounds so far.

My dremel and 1500 grit sand paper and rubbing compound will soon be busy.

Mudinyeri
August 31, 2010, 05:50 PM
Thats exactly what i want to make range trips more enjoyable with a smooth trigger. But not lighten it as i dont want a light DAO trigger for CCW.
I never looked at the feed ramp much, But now that you mention it i did have a fmj round hang on the ramp on my last range trip.
A slap on the slide was all it took and is no big issue, But i certainly wouldn't want that to happen in a time of need. Thats the only thing ever to happen in 500 rounds so far.

My dremel and 1500 grit sand paper and rubbing compound will soon be busy.
Don't use sandpaper on the feed ramp. I would just polish it with a Dremel felt tip and polishing compound.

DasFriek
August 31, 2010, 07:11 PM
Don't use sandpaper on the feed ramp. I would just polish it with a Dremel felt tip and polishing compound.
Thats only used on lite tool marks only, But im sure many people have made that mistake.
Those are mainly found on sears and triggers.
Lets just say on some of my "FUN" guns which i allow myself to go hog wild with trigger jobs that ive had to buy many replacement parts from removing to much material. So ive learned from my mistakes, Hopefully.

Im no expert, Just experienced enough to be dangerous.
My CZ 452 Ultra Lux in a Benchrest stock has a 5oz trigger with all stock parts. :)

schmeky
August 31, 2010, 07:24 PM
DasFriek,

The XD trigger is extremely easy to improve. You leave the sear alone, in fact the break away angle on the stock sear is critical, I don't really recommend polishing, it's best to let it wear in.

If you want to eliminate creep, the pic below shows where you need to concentrate your efforts. You slowly and methodically reduce the striker/sear interface height. I did it on my milling machine, but it can be done w/o a mill. Once you get the height right, the trigger pull can be outstanding for a striker fired gun. Over-travel is accomplished by installation of a 2-56 set screw within the stock trigger bar, results in -0- over-travel once adjusted. The results can be pretty awesome.

http://a.imageshack.us/img31/9135/xdpics001.jpg

Full Metal Jacket
August 31, 2010, 08:48 PM
fluff and buff?

:eek:

DasFriek
September 1, 2010, 02:36 AM
I have it done and im very pleased. I doubt pull weight was reduced any as that wasn't my goal, But has a smooth even pull that breaks with no warning.

I couldn't find anything on XDTalk about a simple trigger job, But found the disassembly video's helpful. I paired that with a Glock 25 cent trigger job for clues and it went well.

I only polished the sear lightly, But i didn't change any angels. Ive learned my lessons before on those.

What i polished:
Sear.
Striker engagement point.
Firing pin safety plunger.
The trigger bar where it rubs the sear plate.

But i did find one major issue.
The Strikers engagement point wasn't straight but had a slight angle to it, But not only that was almost "C" shaped in the middle also.
So i had to actually break the file out on this one and by the time i have it level across the face it removed the "C" shaped middle.
This i gotta say is some shoddy work and QC on Springfields end as ive never seen a trigger part this bad.

But the rest of everything else looked great and they put a good coating on most of the internals i doubt these guns will ever rust much at all internally.

Ill be testing it soon but im sure ill be happy and pretty much doing it for a function test.

If you enjoyed reading about "Anyone done an XD trigger fluff and buff?" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!