CenterPoint scope review.


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hometheaterman
August 31, 2010, 10:49 PM
So I’m writing a review of the CenterPoint 4-16x40mm Adventure Class scope. I’ve read enough about these recently that it’s really gotten me interested. Most all of the reviews I’ve read have been positive with only a couple negative reviews. However, like most of you I’m wondering how the heck they can pack all those features in a scope, and sell it for $70 and it still be decent? I decided to finally go ahead and purchase one. I figured, hey, what the heck Walmart offers a return period, so if it sucks, I can take it back.

Here is the link to the scope. As you can see most reviews are positive.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/CenterPoint-4-16x40mm-Scope/10248654

This scope comes with a set of rings, which I didn't use so can't comment on them, and it comes with a set of flip up scope caps, which seem decent however, they don't seem as nice as the Butler Creek flip ups. One other thing to mention is if using the scope covers, they move when you move the focus or the adjustable objective, so you either have to take them off, adjust it, then put them back on, or just deal with them not being straight after adjusting it.

First impressions are that the glass in this rifle is kind of disappointing to me. Many of you know how bad I think the lower end Leupold VX-I line is, but the glass in this thing makes the VX-I look pretty decent. It’s noticeably worse than my 2 Simmons scopes I’ve owned, but it’s still usable. It’s actually not at all bad on the 4-10 power. However, after that it starts to head downhill. Once you hit 14 power and up, it heads downhill very very quickly. 16x in broad daylight just looked washed out and milky. Everything just had a white haze to it, and it wasn’t very clear at all even when focused. I mean don’t get me wrong, it was clear enough to see the 2” targets at 100 yards that I was shooting at, but that’s about it and this was in broad daylight. 10-14x was better, but still not exceptional. It was definitely very usable, but still almost looked washed out a little and the colors weren’t vibrant. At 10x and below, the scope was actually pretty decent. I don’t have any complaints there, except in low light it’s definitely not a great performer. Compared to my Simmons scope I compared it to, it is slightly worse. However, compared to my Burris Fullfield II scope there is a huge difference in low light clarity. In my dimly lit yard, I looking into the edges of the woods, I could see some stuff, but in the brush I found it hard to make out anything, where I could with my naked eye. With the Burris, you can see things in detail that you can’t see with your eye. This scope also includes an illuminated reticle, which was cool, but I don’t see the point as it’s not like you could do much hunting with this thing at night anyway.

All in all, if I had to rate this, I’d give this glass a 3.5/10.

Now I did mount this on a .22 rifle, so I can’t comment how it would do on center fire rifles with more recoil. Anyway, I mounted it on my .22 rifle and quickly zeroed it at 50 yards. I just saw where it hit, and then I adjusted the scope so that it should hit the bulls eye. I had it zeroed within a couple of shots. I didn’t bore sight it. To my surprise it actually moved exactly where I told it. This to me was a huge surprise, as most cheap scopes I’ve used don’t exactly track well. They often aren’t precise on the adjustments, but once you get them set stay set. This scope was not at all like that as it seemed to move 1/8” at 50 yards and ” at 100 yards consistently just like it said. The clicks were positive, and had a good feel to them. This scope really just had a solid feel to it.

The adjustable objective is really nice to have on a .22 and seemed to do a pretty good job.

Once zeroed at 50 yards, I shot a few groups. I was getting groups around 1” which I expected with this rifle. Some were smaller, but the biggest ones were around 1”. Keep in mind this was with cheap bulk pack ammo. You can loosen the knobs and turn them so that when the scope is zeroed at whatever distance you choose they both are on 0. I did this then moved out to 100 yards. I shot to see what adjustments I needed to make. To my surprise once again, each and every time I adjust this thing it moved exactly where I adjusted it. Just a couple shots and I was sighted in for 100 yards. I took note of where the knobs were according to the markings on the knobs. I shot a few groups, and then decided to see how the scope tracked here. I moved it 6” high and shot a group. Sure enough it hit right where I expected. I then moved it back down the same number of clicks to where it was before and sure enough it was back hitting the bulls eye. I tried moving the adjustment knobs by small amounts and then returning it to zero at 100 yards, and I tried in large amounts, but it always returned exactly to zero. I shot a few more 100-yard groups, and then turned the knobs back to my 50 yard zero. First shot nailed the bulls eye just like it had previously when I had it sighted in for 50 yards. This just flat out shocked me. As said most cheap scopes I’ve seen have not tracked well, nor been repeatable, however, this thing tracks perfectly as far as I can tell, and has always been repeatable and returned to zero. This also has locking rings so that once the knobs are set you can turn the locking rings so that you can’t move the adjustment knobs until you once again loosen the locking rings. This is nice to keep the turrets from getting accidentally moved since there are no turret covers. Another thing to point out is that the POI stayed the same even on different magnifications. I tried different magnifications and there was no poi change like on some of the cheap scopes.


As far as the adjustments go I’d have to give this scope a 10/10.
Next, I tried out the illuminated reticle. One thing to point out about this reticle is that this is not the traditional mil dots. Normally, mil dot reticles have 4 dots in each section of the reticle, however, this scope has 6 dots. This is also not a first focal plane scope, so as far as ranging purposes this only works with these mil dots on 10x. Even in broad daylight on the higher power settings you could see this just fine. It lights up both red and green, whichever you choose. It has 5 different settings for each color. At night you can put it on the lowest setting, which is not over powering. However, you cannot see anything except green or red if you try to use the highest power setting at night. During the daylight the higher power settings worked great though. Overall, this is cool to play with, but I don’t see the point especially since this scope would not be all that great for hunting at night.

I’m mixed on what to give the illuminated reticle score wise. I think it works great, and I would give it a 10/10 for that. However, I’m not sure it deserves a score that high, since I don’t see the point in it.

All in all, my overall opinion of this scope is that if you are doing a lot of shooting in daylight hours on 10 power and under and want something that tracks well and is repeatable while still being on a budget, this is a good choice. However, if you are using this scope to hunt in low light, or are using it at ranges where you will need the top end of this power range, I don’t think this scope is for you. In all honesty the only two drawbacks I see to this scope, are the glass, and the fact that the scope is fairly large and heavy. You also have to remember this is a $70 scope, not a $600 one, so you have to give up performance somewhere. This thing is feature packed and still seems to work decently. So if you are on a budget, and want a scope with these features, this scope seems to be the way to go.

Overall, I’d give this scope a 7/10.

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hometheaterman
August 31, 2010, 10:50 PM
Okay, so I had the above broken down into paragraphs, but once I posted it they don't show up. So I will go back and put spaces in between paragraphs.

ThePunisher'sArmory
August 31, 2010, 11:00 PM
I bought one of these a while ago to put on a Savage .223. I have not tried it yet but I just think i will regret buying it. If it does not do well on the .223 i do have a .22lr I can put it on. All in All good review. I agree with most of it and I to cant seem to see the use of the lighted retical. I mainly bought it for the Mill dots for coyote shooting and quick distance adjustments. I think once I shoot it I will end up getting what I really wanted. A Nikon Pro Staff 3-9X40 with the BDC retical.

hometheaterman
August 31, 2010, 11:11 PM
That reminds me of something I forgot to add that I will go back and add. The mil dots are not the traditional mil dots. Normally, there are 4 dots in each section of the reticle. However, in this scope there are 6 dots instead of the traditional 4. This isn't a huge deal, just something I forgot to mention. This is also not a first focal plane scope, so for ranging purposes the mil dots are set to use at 10x.

HOOfan_1
August 31, 2010, 11:21 PM
My dad put one of these on his H&R Handi-Rifle. He's shot about 5 groundhogs with it. I shot a groundhog at 180 yards and 3 days later shot another through the head at 150 yards. So that attests that it can hold its POI.

I also didn't see any problem at 16X magnification. I can use this scope at the range to pick out individual holes at 100 yards. It isn't extremely clear and my dad says he has a Simmons for his .357 Mag barrel on the Handi-Rifle that is much brighter, but for $70 the Center-Point is certainly not crap. Being that it is on a groundhog gun, I have not tried it at dusk.

hometheaterman
August 31, 2010, 11:28 PM
Not saying it's crap at all nor that you can't see anything at 16x, however, it certainly isn't very clear and looks washed out to me at 16x. I would just think this is how scopes look had I not used better scopes too. However, once having used better scopes, stuff like this sticks out.

HOOfan_1
August 31, 2010, 11:34 PM
Not saying it's crap at all nor that you can't see anything at 16x, however, it certainly isn't very clear and looks washed out to me at 16x. I would just think this is how scopes look had I not used better scopes too. However, once having used better scopes, stuff like this sticks out.

I've never looked through a Leupold, Swarovski, Zeiss, Schmidt & Bender, Leica, Nikon, Khales, Nightforce or US Optics...so I really don't know.

I've only used Bushnell, Tasco, Centerpoint and Simmons before.
In the near future though I plan to buy a Nikon or Leupold or higher end Bushnell.

husker
September 1, 2010, 12:11 AM
i had a center point on a ranch 14. NO WAY did it keep zero with that kinda beating over & over.
Its on a Rem 597 22 now & does just fine.

pbrktrt
September 1, 2010, 10:24 AM
It is an inexpensive Chinese scope that Crosman markets. It works as well or better as similarly priced scopes. I had one I sold it.

benzy2
September 1, 2010, 05:42 PM
I am glad to hear the fair review. It seems so many reviews of the centerpoint scopes are from a view point that hasn't used a mid range scope before and it gets given praises for its image, yet the one (and only one) I looked through was just as described. Not that it is a bad scope for the price, just that it fits in the price range it is placed, nothing more or less. I have heard a reviews say that it was better than similar Bushnell Elite 3200 and Nikon Buckmaster and having tried the Elite and owning the Nikon it was a night and day difference.

Hope it works out for you. I'm not sure how long it will last but being on a rimfire it should be fine and it sounds like it tracks very well, which can be a problem even for expensive scopes.

dirtyjim
September 1, 2010, 10:02 PM
i have one on an ar-15 and i think its a decent scope for the money.
the chinese counterfit leupold mark4 3.5x10x40 scopes are much nicer for the same amount of money.

Flash!
September 1, 2010, 10:19 PM
I own four of these..... two on .308's..... one on a .223, one on .17hmr..... for the price, these are a great deal.... even the ones on the 308's are holding zero after several hundred rounds..... they do not have the light gathering capability of high priced scopes, but at this price who cares?

PigButtons
September 1, 2010, 10:50 PM
I have three of these scopes and all of them are as clear at 16x as they are at 6x and that is very good. I never use the lighted reticles but would try at night if I needed it but a high end flashlight works just fine.

My experience with the scopes is excellent at holding zero and for adjustments. In flat or low light it is not as bright as a top end scope but even at 57 my eyes are good enough to see out to 100 yards at twilight or to 50 with a bright flashlight ( I hate possums and they have to be dealt with when they are spooking the dogs in the middle of the night).

I only have them on 22lr and 22mag rifles so I can't speak to high recoil survivability.

YMMV

hometheaterman
September 1, 2010, 11:35 PM
they do not have the light gathering capability of high priced scopes, but at this price who cares? This is basically my opinion on them.

I have heard a reviews say that it was better than similar Bushnell Elite 3200 and Nikon Buckmaster and having tried the Elite and owning the Nikon it was a night and day difference.Yes, the glass is no where near the quality of those scopes or others in their price range. However, as said above it's decent considering the price I guess.

HB
September 1, 2010, 11:37 PM
I actually thought the glass was decent but after a few month on a .22, the adjustment knobs stripped out and were useless. It now is sitting at the bottom of a drawer. I prefer simmons for cheap scopes.


HB

jbkebert
September 1, 2010, 11:47 PM
My 11 year old son bought one with some of his birthday money. he wanted to put a new scope on his deer rifle. Against my better judgement I let him buy the scope. I figured we could slap it on a .22 if nothing else. We mounted the scope on his .270 win and took it to the range last Sunday. I fired 4 round through the gun to make sure it was on paper and made a few adjustments. Keigan took over and proceeded to fire approx 30 rounds of 130 grain .270 shells to sight in and practice. Scope held up fine to the recoil of a .270 and held POI just fine. Scope is a little fuzzy at 9x much better sight picture at 6x. Eye releif leaves a little to be desired but all and all. For $40 it seems fine. My son might get a Leupold or a Nikon from santa this year but until then if he is happy I am happy.

hometheaterman
September 1, 2010, 11:55 PM
I actually thought the glass was decent but after a few month on a .22, the adjustment knobs stripped out and were useless. It now is sitting at the bottom of a drawer. I prefer simmons for cheap scopes.So do I and the glass seems slightly better on the Simmons I have. The problem with Simmons though is it changes hands so often you never know who is making it, and some of them are good, while others are pure crap. Simmons also doesn't offer anything with this many features in the price range that I've seen. Closest thing I've seen is the WTC at Midway USA and it's still over $100.

hometheaterman
September 7, 2010, 12:47 PM
I'm going to add an update to this.

I have to say this thing really does impress me for the money it costs. I just wish the glass was better.

Anyway, during the last week, I had a friend over and I was showing him this scope as he seemed interested in it. I was showing him how positive the clicks felt on the adjustment knobs. So I did some turning of the knobs back and forth some. Anyway, when I was done I set the knobs back to 0 which is where my 50 yard zero is set. I got the rifle out today and decided to do some squirrel hunting. I had of course been playing with the knobs earlier on in the week like I said so the though crossed my mind to check the poi before hunting with it. However, I just didn't have time to do it. Anyway, I headed out into the woods and after sitting for about an hour a squirrel ran out about 40 yards in front of me. I put the scope on him and pulled the trigger. I hit him right in the side of the head like I was aiming. So apparently, the adjustment knobs are still returning to zero just fine.

I'm really surprised, but impressed with how well this thing tracks and how it seems very repeatable. I've not seen this in most cheap scopes. If they had of put better glass in this scope, it could be one of the best scopes out there imo. It just feel solid and seems to work well. It has glass that's is decent, but not great.

Skinsanity
September 7, 2010, 01:07 PM
I had one on a 30-06 at one point, and it worked decently, kept its zero, but it wasnt as clear as some would like, but then again, if you want perfect glass, you have to pay for it. If you pay 70 bucks for a scope, guess what, youll get a 70 dollar scope....I liked it, it was what I expected when I bought it, I was on a tight budget and hunting season was coming on me quick...Thats a very good review and just about word for word how I would rate the scope..

regards

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