Beretta 96 to 9mm??


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Realbigo
September 2, 2010, 02:40 PM
So I have a friend who is presently @ Army Boot camp, and during her most recent call to my G-Friend, who is also her roommate, she asked that I start looking for a "M9" for her. She is not a gunner as yet, but she is very interested in really learning to shoot when she gets home. I however think it would be better for her to get a .40s&w Beretta 96 instead of a 9mm, especially if it isn't too hard to convert it to 9mm if needed. I'm not a fan or the 92f/M9 as i have often reiterated on THR, so outside of carrying one while a Marine, My knowledge in them is seriously lacking. If anyone can point me in the direction of 9mm conversion kits, and/or instructions, I'd appreciate it.

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Lonestar49
September 2, 2010, 02:55 PM
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Go here and post the question:

http://www.berettaforum.net/vb/

Pure guess, but new or used slide with barrel for 9mm.. But I'm wondering about extractor issues along with mag slot, etc. of 40cal 96 frame..

One way to find out.. ask the question there.


Ls

dakotasin
September 2, 2010, 02:56 PM
...she asked that I start looking for a "M9" for her. ...

why not just look for what she asked? just because you don't like it doesn't mean it wouldn't be effective. i'm no fan of 9mm's or berettas either, but i wouldn't discourage somebody that likes both to get what they want.

Jim Watson
September 2, 2010, 03:09 PM
I don't have or want a .40 and would not push one on a novice who had her eye on a 9mm.

dom1104
September 2, 2010, 03:13 PM
I 100% agree with Jim.

Pushing a .40 on a newbie, who doesnt even want one, is a terrible idea.

rcmodel
September 2, 2010, 03:14 PM
I agree.
If she wants a 9mm, find her a 9mm.

The .40 will have a stronger recoil spring, and it will be harder for her to operate.

Not to mention higher ammo costs, more recoil, and more muzzle blast.

Conversion kits are like trying to make a silk purse out of a sows ear.

The 9mm & .40 S&W are completely different case sizes.
Meaning completely different slides, extractors, and magazines on the real versions of the gun.
Sure it will work, but not well.

rc

Realbigo
September 2, 2010, 03:40 PM
I'm not going to push anything on her. I just want to get myself informed, so i can tell her what the options are. I took her to the range before she left, and she shot my BHP clone, 1911, and a range rental Glock 22. It was like Goldie Locks. The BHP was fun, but she wanted higher stopping power. The 1911 was just too much recoil for her. And she liked the Glock, but said she'd feel more comfortable w/ a manual safety. The range had a pt-92, but we were running out of time. I'm just educating myself, so I can help her later.

rcmodel
September 2, 2010, 04:06 PM
The 1911 was just too much recoil for her.Then a .40 will be too.

Recoil be very similar to a .45 in the same weight gun, only "snappier" and louder.

rc

Shadow 7D
September 2, 2010, 04:37 PM
Why not tell her to wait???

She has how long in basic, then AIT, then she is at here first duty station, she will have plenty of time to get a gun if she wants one, and the 'qualification' isn't hard, I always shot expert with spare bullets, remember the Officers have to pass too with pistol....

Old Shooter
September 2, 2010, 05:27 PM
If she wants the 9mm I'd let her get it and be happy.

If This was a weapon for YOU and YOU were considering this conversion thing I think I'd just suggest buying both weapons. Chances are by the time you get the conversion parts you won't be too far off the price of an entire other weapon and you might just as well have two of them, right?

9mmepiphany
September 2, 2010, 06:49 PM
She is likely interested in having a gun like the one she has already trained with and might be issued to her during her career.

The Beretta is the smoothest running guns on the market (non-tilting barrel) and the simple Beretta 92FS works great, has been in numerous movies and even starred in Top Shot...it has a lot of brand recognition. While my preference is for a de-cocking "G" model, I'd avoid that and just help her get what she wants.

Domineaux
September 3, 2010, 09:56 AM
The BHP was fun, but she wanted higher stopping power

1. Who convinced her that more stopping power was needed?
2. Same 9mm as the M9 our military use (including her shortly)
3. Used as the duty side arm of a huge number of police departments and military for a long time.

hardworker
September 3, 2010, 10:19 AM
This may be a good place to ask this. I've heard that in order to convert a 92fs to 40 all you need is to buy a new slide, spring, rod, mag and barrel. Is there any truth to this statement?

mljdeckard
September 3, 2010, 10:28 AM
There is also this to consider. If she learns on an M-9, and this will be her primary focus, it might just be a good idea to let her keep one system, one manual of arms, one skill set, and one set of magazines and accessories. There is no reason to complicate her life with different barrels and magazines getting all mixed up. Just because WE think this kind of switching is cool doesn't mean SHE will.

As others have said, a .40 is not easier to shoot than a .45. There is nothing at all wrong with the stopping power of a 9mm with good ammunition. SOMEONE has been telling her bad info.

9mmepiphany
September 3, 2010, 01:55 PM
I've heard that in order to convert a 92fs to 40 all you need is to buy a new slide, spring, rod, mag and barrel. Is there any truth to this statement?
Just enough to get you into trouble.

At one time, Beretta offered a "Combo" package of one frame with both 9mm and .40 uppers, which allowed you to switch between calibers. The frame included was the 96 (.40) frame. In order to feed both cartridges reliably, the frame needs the .40 relief cuts for clearance

DaBull
September 3, 2010, 02:09 PM
She wants an M9. If it was SHE, not you, that brought up the stopping power issue, then suggest she rent a Beretta 96 or Taurus PT100 before she makes a final decision. She needs to know if she likes or can handle the .40 in the big-grip Beretta before she buys it. If YOU brought up the stopping power issue, then just let her buy the 92.

Avenger29
September 4, 2010, 02:52 AM
I however think it would be better for her to get a .40s&w Beretta 96 instead of a 9mm,

Forget .40. Not only is it snappier, it is not that great in the 92/96 design and the rounds are more expensive.

9mm is just fine as a caliber, and is affordable and easier to shoot. I think it's a good idea for one to get identical weapons as to what they carry on duty and get in lots of practice with them, and take them to gun classes to learn the weapons inside and out.

wideym
September 4, 2010, 03:30 AM
The Beretta 96 can be easily converted to 9mm, but the 92 cannot be converted.

The 92, being 9mm, hence a smaller case than 40cal, cannot fit a 40cal case into battery. The 96 on the other hand will fit the 9mm case in battery.

All you need in order to change 40cal to 9mm is swap out the barrel and magazine. Both pistols' barrels outer diameter is ecentially the same, so no modification required, although I would suggest you buy a barrel that already has the block and plunger to avoid having to change those out every time you change calibers.

I have two 96s and two 92s which I have exchanged barrels and slides on numerous occacions with out failure or damage.

bdb benzino
September 4, 2010, 04:05 AM
I took her to the range before she left, and she shot my BHP clone, 1911, and a range rental Glock 22. It was like Goldie Locks. The BHP was fun, but she wanted higher stopping power. The 1911 was just too much recoil for her. And she liked the Glock, but said she'd feel more comfortable w/ a manual safety.

This shows how felt recoil is a totaly personal thing. IMHO the Glock 22 recoils much more than a BHP or a 45acp 1911!

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