Which COC head???


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ACLakey
September 2, 2010, 10:51 PM
A few years ago I replaced the no longer made 125gr Rocky Mny Ironhead (sad to see that head go) with a bunch of 125gr Montecs. I have killed a bear and a deer with the Montecs and they have performed well, I really like the one piece cut on contact design. My only issue is I can not sharpen them to my liking. I have used several methods and the best I have found is wet/dry sand paper to 1000grit then stropping with yellow stone. I am looking at switching to the CS Montec, Hellrazor or Snuffer SS. My question is simple, which one of these heads has the best steel for a razor edge?

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jbkebert
September 5, 2010, 09:50 PM
I do not have any experience with the hellrazor heads but between the monotec and the Magnus Snuffer heads. I agree that the monotechs are a little hard to sharpen to what I consider scary sharp. The best thing I have found was a wet stone followed by a leather strop. The Magnus heads made right here in Kansas a couple hours west of me are tuff broadheads. The monotechs are pretty darn strong and hold up fairly well. Magnus on the other hand will back there claims that they are the best and the toughest. You could send them a pack of heads that you shot through car doors then shot a concrete wall with. Magnus will send you a new pack of broadheads with a handwritten apology that they didn't hold up to your expectations. Not many companies back there products like magnus does and they have earned my business because of the way they do business.

There is a group of 6 of us heading for TX here in a couple weeks. All of us have been shooting 20+ years each. 4 of the 6 work in or own archery pro-shops. 5 out of 6 will be shooting Magnus heads going to hogs and hard horned exotics.

ACLakey
September 6, 2010, 09:13 PM
Thanks for the info. I am going to try the diamond stone method that is on youtube for the Snuffer SS heads.

My wet/dry sand paper and stropping method proved effective this weekend. My Dad shot a small buck at 20 yards uphill in the chest and the arrow exited the rear ham. The broadhead did some serious damage the the buck dropped after a few bounds, the head looked brand new. My buddy took a larger fork on a hard quartering shot which exited through the far shoulder blade, head had no damage and the buck dropped in site. Both heads I sharpened using the previous stated method. I guess they are sharper than they appear.

Freedom_fighter_in_IL
September 6, 2010, 09:25 PM
My G5 Montecs 100 grain appear to be sharpened on a pretty light angle so getting a "razor" edge would seem a bit difficult. That being said, I have sent them through close to 12 deer so far with absolutely NO problems. Never had one fail nor have I had one fail to pass through. Even had one hit dead center shoulder bone, Busted through with no problem (was at 22 yards) and exited out the 4rth rib back and buried about halfway up the broadhead in a sapling after passing through. Love mine, they do excellent damage. I think that the edge on them is a slight bit on the deceptive side.

stickbowhntr
September 6, 2010, 09:27 PM
I LOVE Zwickeys

Freedom_fighter_in_IL
September 8, 2010, 11:47 AM
This is from the guys at Montec.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBg4aYBAdt0

ACLakey
September 11, 2010, 07:47 PM
Ok, I purchased a double sided diamond stone the other day and went to work on some Montecs. I started with 600 grit, then went to 1200, finished with a few passes on the strop with yellow stone on it....the results. The Montec's now shave hair very easily, I am impressed. I don't know why this method works better than the sand paper method of the same grit, but it does. For a test, I held a ziplock sandwich bag between my hands and had my daughter let go of an arrow with a sharpened montec on the end. The results of the impromptu test was the arrow sticking in the book on the floor I used for a stop, these heads now cut with ease. I am anxious to give them a try on game....hopefully I can find an elk before the end of the month.

grubbylabs
September 12, 2010, 12:07 AM
If you do decide to change any way look into the Magnus stingers, they are a great head and easy to sharpen with a variety of hand held pull through devises.

ACLakey
September 12, 2010, 08:38 PM
Thanks for the replies. Woody from Magnus has been a tremendous help even though I am not using his heads. His video and posts on another site were the ticket. I will be switching in the future to the Snuffer SS just do to the support I got from him on someone else's product. Below is a link to his video which is the process I used.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sMTcc_CmXg

grubbylabs
September 12, 2010, 11:22 PM
He is on Archery Talk all the time and they do provide great customer service from what I have seen. I don't think they make a product you could be disappointed in. Although I am not a big fan of the bleeders on the stingers they do fly well and make a heck of a hole in your animal. I may try the 100 grain buzz cuts next year.

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