Springfield XD DAO???


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airdale
September 5, 2010, 09:43 PM
Haven't posted alot here but I just saw the comparison chart for pistols and saw the S/A XD listed as DAO. I've also seen it listed as DA from Buds and others. I may be missing something But the XDSC I own can't be fired without the striker in the cocked position. To my mind that makes the Pistol a single action only firearm. There is no decocker on this gun, you have to have a round in the chamber and it must be cocked to be fired. So how can this be anything but a SAO gun?

Not trying to start a argument I might be missing some fine point about the DA, SA definition. Am I wrong? :confused:

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BamAlmighty
September 5, 2010, 10:01 PM
the XD is a SA only gun, the hammerless internal firing pin tends to confuse people.

oasis618
September 5, 2010, 10:05 PM
But the Glock, while a seemingly very similar design, is in fact DAO. Go figure.

DasFriek
September 5, 2010, 11:45 PM
I might be missing some fine point about the DA, SA definition. Am I wrong?
Life was a simpler time before Glock screwed up the definitions of SAO and DAO.
A Glock may by definition be a DAO, But it shoots exactly like a SAO.
As far as you and im concerned a Glock and XD act the same way when firing, But internally different things you cant see are happening.
OOH YEAHH!!!

Quack
September 5, 2010, 11:50 PM
Glock falls in the DA classification, because the striker is only partially cocked. pulling the trigger fully cocks the striker, then releases the striker.

the XD is a SA because the striker is already cocked and pulling the trigger trips the sear, releasing the striker.

bigfatdave
September 5, 2010, 11:58 PM
The degree of pre-cocking of the striker makes the DA v SA designation sort of slippery.

An XD is almost entirely cocked by the reciprocating action of the slide, my PPS slightly less so, and I don't know where a Glock fits in as far as pre-cock persentage goes.

Now, if you're talking about the trigger's actions, all most striker-fired triggers CAN do is pull the striker to full cock and then release it, although Taurus has a moving sear gadget that will allow a "second strike" much like a DA/SA gun's ability to just drop the hammer again with another trigger pull. So no, the trigger cannot cock the gun from a "decocked" condition the way a P.38 or most hammer-fired DA/SA guns can.

So the XD, as far as trigger action, would be SA only, and so would a Glock's, just with a different amount of cocking action.

This all makes sense when you actually poke around inside, for now just figure out what you want by doing some dry-firing in the shop (take a snap-cap if they're chicken about dryfire) or, even better, hitting a rental range or a pile of friends' guns.

ElrodCod
September 6, 2010, 08:22 PM
S&W M&Ps are listed as DAO by the factory but they're no different than the XDs. IMO, both are single action striker fired guns although there is a very slight camming back of the striker because the sear travels through an arc as it releases.

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