Drilled & tapped shotguns?


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Gary O
September 5, 2010, 10:40 PM
Would like to try a scoped turkey gun...any suggestions?

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mjyeagle
September 5, 2010, 10:47 PM
i just saw the h&r pardner single shot 10 ga my birthday is tomorrow just happens to cost as much as my parents want to spend on me but i dont know much about h&r i will make it a dedicated slug and buckshot gun if it is a strong enough gun for this i am going to get it

kbbailey
September 5, 2010, 11:18 PM
A few companies offer saddle mounts for Remington 870 or 1100 shotguns. I have a B-Square model that works perfectly. Just pop out the trigger group pins ...put the mount over the receiver....and put the screws through the trigger pin holes...and you have a scope mount.
I have one on a 1100. It works. Holds zero to slug gun accuracy. I used it to deer hunt with for years until the blackpowder bug bit me again.
I guess I got tired of seeing the target clearly and driving a slug through it.

I highly recommend it, especially if you already have a Remington.

natman
September 6, 2010, 12:26 AM
Mossbergs come D&T'ed these days.

Personally I have never seen the point in a scope on a turkey gun. I do like open fiber optics sights.

bigalexe
September 6, 2010, 02:33 PM
I don't know if I like the idea of a scope mounted to receiver on a shotgun.

Reason: Shotguns get their barrels removed for cleaning quite frequently, this means they may remount 0.001" or maybe even 0.005" differently each time they get screwed back on. This could affect your POI either minorly or significantly. So for this reason I would recommend some sort of sight that sticks on the barrel, like rifle sights or beads.

just a suggestion, you are free to do as you wish, these are just inferences and not facts tested against any standard.

arizona98tj
September 6, 2010, 06:12 PM
Reason: Shotguns get their barrels removed for cleaning quite frequently, this means they may remount 0.001" or maybe even 0.005" differently each time they get screwed back on. This could affect your POI either minorly or significantly. So for this reason I would recommend some sort of sight that sticks on the barrel, like rifle sights or beads.

Barrels are certainly removed for cleaning, no doubt about that.

Have you verified that this typically happens (remounting the barrel in a different position) or is this just a hunch you have? If you've verified this, how much POI change does one typically see at 50 yards? Just wondering as I have a drilled and tapped receiver on one of my shotguns. Have considered an optic for it.

In addition to what you suggested a cantilevered mount on the barrel would eliminate the concern too.

kbbailey
September 6, 2010, 06:57 PM
As posted above, I have an 1100 with saddle mount. I have taken it off the gun for quail hunting, and replaced it to deer hunt a few weeks later with no change in point of impact(or very little). I did, however, recheck for zero whenever I remounted the scope.
After getting a 12 ga laser boresight, I can check with that to my satisfaction.

bigalexe
September 6, 2010, 11:59 PM
That was a complete hunch, I am a drafter/machinist student so it's based on my engineering knowledge and not firearms. I added that addendum at the bottom of the previous post for that.

Yes a cantilever mount would eliminate that possibility however a cantilever on a smoothbore turkey barrel is non-existent to my knowledge.

arizona98tj
September 7, 2010, 12:40 AM
How long of a barrel would one require for turkey hunting? Realizing it is the choke and not the barrel length that makes the pattern, is a super long barrel required?

I have a 22" smooth bore barrel on my FNH auto-loader....and it has a cantilever rail on it.

kbbailey
September 7, 2010, 12:55 AM
28" full on my gun. I have taken birds in excess of 40yds with 2 3/4" shells #4 shot.

26"-32" Full choke will do fine.

Get a cardboard box, draw a turkey on it, march off 40 yds, and blast with your turkey load. See for yourself.

arizona98tj
September 7, 2010, 01:25 AM
OK....my bad for not clarifying.

Does a shotgun for turkey require a long barrel? Just because the shotgun you hunt your turkey with has a long barrel, does that make it a requirement?

I always heard longer barrels are to aid in smooth handling, easy follow through for wing shooting, etc. Since turkeys seem to be shot on the ground, a smooth swinging shotgun seems to be of little use.

I can choke my 22" barrel for just about anything (last time I looked, they made about 8 different chokes for it).

So....is there some kind of benefit to be seen by having 30" of barrel instead of 22" of barrel when shooting turkeys?

Mr. T
September 7, 2010, 03:51 AM
I've got a red dot on a side saddle on my turkey gun (Mossberg 835). It worked great this last season. It's a BSA and was fairly inexpensive.

bigalexe
September 7, 2010, 11:07 AM
So....is there some kind of benefit to be seen by having 30" of barrel instead of 22" of barrel when shooting turkeys?

This sounds like a good excuse to go find out!

In light of this awesome excuse to make lots of noise and beat my shoulder to bits, I am going to go fire some 3" #6&#4 through a 24" and a 28" barrel on Friday with my Turkey choke and see what happens. Results will be posted in the form of photos.

natman
September 7, 2010, 02:42 PM
OK....my bad for not clarifying.

Does a shotgun for turkey require a long barrel? Just because the shotgun you hunt your turkey with has a long barrel, does that make it a requirement?

I always heard longer barrels are to aid in smooth handling, easy follow through for wing shooting, etc. Since turkeys seem to be shot on the ground, a smooth swinging shotgun seems to be of little use.

I can choke my 22" barrel for just about anything (last time I looked, they made about 8 different chokes for it).

So....is there some kind of benefit to be seen by having 30" of barrel instead of 22" of barrel when shooting turkeys?
You are correct. The main advantage in a long barrel is swing dynamics, which is irrelevant for turkey hunting. A short barrel is a lot nicer to carry in the woods and there is no practical difference in patterns and only a small difference in velocity. Go for it.

Gary O
September 7, 2010, 04:02 PM
is this what is meant by highjacking a thread?

m3mackenzie
September 7, 2010, 04:23 PM
I use a B Square mount of my Nova. Could not be happier. Two screws and I have a scope pretty much still zeroed. If i want the beads, just unscrew and pop the pins back in.

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