Questions about selling M1A and M1 Garand, legal stuff.


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90LX50T5
December 12, 2003, 12:04 PM
I am thinking of selling my M1A pre ban and my M1 Garand. I live in Iowa and would like to know how I can sell it legally. From what I have seen here, to sell it out of state I would have to ship it to a licensed dealer, is that correct? What about in state? Do I have to do anything if I sell it to another Iowan? I have herad on other websites that if it's in state I don't have to do anything legally, but I want to make sure thats true.

Also, what are the current values of the guns? The Garand I bought used but was redone as far as I can tell. The coating on the metal parts looks to have been done and I redid the stock with polyurethane varnish, I know not original but it looks nice. I also have a new bayonet for it and extra magazines. The M1A I got new with a scope and the 20 round clip (pre ban). It still looks new and has only had enough rounds through it to get the scope sighted in, so maybe 40 rounds. Both guns have slings also. I would rather keep them but need the money to help pay for a place to live, which is why I am also selling my 2000 Z28.

Any help would be appreciated, and I will be posting them for sale in the classifieds here once I know what to do and what a fair asking price would be. Thanks.

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Greg L
December 12, 2003, 12:18 PM
$50 each. I'll take both & even pay the shipping :evil: .

(I'm not sure but hopefully you will get some ideas soon. You could also check Gunsamerica or some auction sites to get an idea of general market value)

Greg

ysr_racer
December 12, 2003, 12:50 PM
http://www.gunsamerica.com/fast.cgi?guncat=2451

http://www.gunsamerica.com/fast.cgi?guncat=2452

http://www.gunsamerica.com/fast.cgi?guncat=1990

gharsh
December 12, 2003, 01:24 PM
For the legal part of it, check out the BATF website,www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#b17u, this link should get you there. Scroll down to section B. It does a good job explaining what would need to be done to transfer ownership of a gun to someone else, either in state or out of state. Although, in state transactions might have other rules governing them based on local laws so a call or a trip to the state attorney general's office or website might be another good idea. Then as a last resort, give the local sheriff's office a call. They should be able to help.

Good Luck.

Leatherneck
December 12, 2003, 01:49 PM
Garands and M1 carbines are popular C&R items, so the prices are relatively high in lots of places. To be top-drawer, they have to be in original condition (no modifications like poly-finished furniture :uhoh: ) and matching manufacturers on all parts. I'd say you could get a good shooter-grade Garand for $400-$500 pretty easily, and a carbine for slightly more.

On the legal issue, you would be OK transferring either weapon in-state to anyone you believe is eligible to possess such a weapon. If you want some added insurance, simply have an FFL dealer perform the transfer with the forms and NCIC--though you can expect to pay for this service.

HTH

TC
TFL Survivor

ysr_racer
December 12, 2003, 03:03 PM
This information from ATF's FAQs will apply throughout the nation, per federal law:

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(B2) From whom may an unlicensed person acquire a firearm under the GCA?

A person may only buy a firearm within the person's own state, except that he or she may buy a rifle or shotgun, in person, at a licensee's premises in any state, provided the sale complies with state laws applicable in the state of sale and the state where the purchaser resides. [18 U. S. C 922( a)( 3) and (5), 922( b)( 3), 27 CFR 178.29]

(B3) May an unlicensed person obtain a firearm from an out-of-state source if the person arranges to obtain the firearm through a licensed dealer in the purchaser's own state?

A person not licensed under the GCA and not prohibited from acquiring firearms may purchase a firearm from an out-of-state source and obtain the firearm if an arrangement is made with a licensed dealer in the purchaser's state of residence for the purchaser to obtain the firearm from the dealer. [18 U. S. C 922( a)( 3) and (5), 922( b)( 3), 27 CFR 178.29]

90LX50T5
December 12, 2003, 04:35 PM
ysr-Checked the site you linked me to. Looks like the M1A would go for around $1,300 or so which is fine. I'll probably keep the Garand since I like it and it doesn't get much, and becuase of the varnished wood. I guess I could always remove the varnish, but I think it looks better with it. I don't know all the stuff they had listed about the guns for sale either, a bunch of stuff I am not familiar with. How do i know what I have as far as desirability? Are there numbers that I can find that would tell me the stuff I need to know? Can anyone here tell me what all the numbers stamped on the gun mean?

Thanks for all the replies and help so far.

Trebor
December 13, 2003, 03:49 AM
The numbers stamped on the parts of the Garand are Drawing Numbers that indicate which mechanical drawing was the specific blue print for that part. As the design of the parts were modified over time, the drawing numbers were changed. There are whole books devoted to decoding what drawing numbers are appropriate for any given time in the manufacture of the rifles. Scott Duff is probably the preeminent authority on this right now and his books are highly reccomended.

Go to www.jouster.com and post some of the info on your rifle and the drawing numbers there and, if you ask nicely, someone will probalby decode at least some of them for you. Start with the heat code on the receiver leg, the number on the barrel (visible on the slot on the stock when you pull the op rod back) the number on the bolt and the number on the op rod. Pretty much every part is numbered, but I don't know if anyone would be willing to decode the whole thing for you. Start with those and if they come back as being "correct" for this rifle, then look at some of the other parts.

90LX50T5
December 13, 2003, 11:34 AM
Thanks Trebor, I will check that out. Does that also work with the M1A? It has similar style numbers also so I assume it would be the same thing. AS far as I know both are Springfeild Armory.

lazarus
December 13, 2003, 12:49 PM
As to the M1A, I might suggest you cruise over to www.battlerifles.com

You can get detailed info on your rifle there, and there is a place where you can list your piece for sale free. Good, knowlegable people.

90LX50T5
December 13, 2003, 01:40 PM
Thanks everyone, I will find out what I have and list it for sale. Thanks.

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