SR9c Range Report


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Olympus
September 11, 2010, 05:30 PM
I posted the thead a little while back about the Sig P6 vs SR9c. I took the gun to the range today with about 500 rounds to get started breaking it in and to make sure reliability was on point before I started carrying it. Only one way to sum up my experience, NOT IMPRESSED! :fire:

Failures out the a$$! I only made it through 150 rounds before I decided to give up and quit wasting ammo. Out of 150 rounds, I had 5 light primer strikes, 5 to 8 failure to feeds, and probably 25 to 30 failure to ejects. It seemed like there was a malfunction of some sort every other round. I alternated between the 10 round and 17 round magazines thinking that one of the mags would be the culprit. Malfunctions equal between the two. Ammo was just cheap plinking ammo, Winchester White Box. I ran a couple mags of S&B through thinking it might be the WWB, same result. I will be calling Ruger first thing Monday morning and sending this thing back. I'm not sure what the problem is. The failure to ejects were a combination of stovepipes and horizontal jams, with neither one being the majority. The failure to feeds were primarily the slide not wanting to go fully into battery. Sometimes a stiff heel of the hand to the back of the slide would do the trick and other times I'd have to drop the mag and open the slide to get the round out.

So needless to say, I'm disappointed in the performance. I guess I'll get some firsthand knowledge of Ruger customer service pretty soon. When I get it back, I think I'll probably put at least 1000 rounds through it before I decide to make it my carry gun.

One good thing to say about it, accuracy is dead on! For a compact gun, it groups just as tight as a full size. It grouped slightly high and to the right for me at 7 yards, so I may do some adjusting when I get it back from Ruger.

Just wanted to let people know how the first trip to the range went.

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Wishoot
September 11, 2010, 05:32 PM
Sorry about your bad experience. I've seen a lot of positive reports, but it sounds like there may be a bug or two to work out of this gun still.

I'm sure Ruger will make it right however.

Mike J
September 11, 2010, 05:38 PM
Did you clean if before your range trip? If you did not that may be the root of your problems. There is a lot of information about this pistol in the semi-auto subforum at www.rugerforum.com

Hanzo581
September 11, 2010, 05:41 PM
I have about 500 rounds through my SR9c without a single hiccup. I am sorry you are having trouble with yours, I hope Ruger fixes your lemon, and quickly.

Lateck
September 11, 2010, 05:43 PM
Sorry to hear of your problems....
There has been a number of owners with issues like what you have stated and I'm very sorry to hear that, too.

I have a SR9c and I have had NO PROBLEMS at all.
Even with UMC ammo (many have posted they have had problems with UMC).
The first time out I ran 100+ rounds through it right out of the box new. :)

I have read that many need a good cleaning before the first firings....:confused:

Good Luck, because like you did state it's and accurate gun. ;)

Lateck,

Olympus
September 11, 2010, 05:49 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty down about the whole thing too. I've read pretty much all the posts about this gun and the overwhelming majority were positive. It seems like my luck is still holding true. I can pick a lemon almost every time...

And yes, I did give it a thorough cleaning before my range trip. I took it all apart and cleaned all the heavy oil that came on it from the factory. I have it a couple shots of Hornady One-Shot just to provide a little lubrication on the most important places, but other than that it was clean as a whistle.

redbeardsong
September 11, 2010, 06:20 PM
Hmm... I have a new SR9c as well with 300 rounds through it, no problem. The first 110 were with the gun straight out of the case with no cleaning. Not a single issue.

Runningman
September 11, 2010, 06:25 PM
Ouch!, Sorry to hear that. Hopefully Ruger will take care of your SR9c issues.

Mike J
September 12, 2010, 10:11 AM
Sorry Olympus. I was actually hoping all it needed was a cleaning. Ruger should take care of it.

Carter
September 12, 2010, 10:19 AM
Sorry to hear that Olympus. Every gun is subject to problems though. I've seen police officers trying qualify with their new glocks and there were jams after james after jams.

Ruger should fix it up. I read one report of a guy saying he took out his magazine disconnect safety, dry fired it before doing that and after doing it countless times (big no no), ran pretty much nothing but reloads, and Ruger still fixed everything free of charge. I don't remember what the problem was, but according to his story he abused it and did everything that would void most warranties.


Hope everything gets fixed though. If not, you know that first shot will go right where you need it to :p

buy guns
September 12, 2010, 11:17 AM
Olympus, I had almost the exact same problems with my gun the first time I shot it, though I only put about 75 rounds through it. I didn't have any light primer strikes but the slide did fail to lock back a couple of times.

I was using UMC ammo and I didn't clean the factory grease out of it so I'm hoping that contributed to the problems. I've since cleaned it and gotten different ammo but I haven't gotten a chance to shoot it again.

Tilos
September 12, 2010, 11:49 AM
Olympus:
Sorry to here of the problems you have/had.
I think you may be giving up too soon though.

First take the gun apart and look for anything obviously wrong, a shiny spot, a big burr, etc.
Then make sure you have the gun assembled correctly, mag springs in the correct way, etc.

I don't think One-Shot is a good choice for lube, especially on the slide rails.
For me, grease goes on the slide rails and a 1/2 drop of oil into the firing pin channel.

Little guns have stiff springs that take a while to "set".
Something else I do to a new gun is remove the mag, put on some work gloves, rack the slide a couple of hundred times, and dry fire too.(check the manual about dry firing).

Hope this helps with your problems.

Texas Gun Person
September 12, 2010, 01:06 PM
Once again I am here to say only good things about my experiences with the SR9C. I have almost 1000 rounds through mine and have had not 1 problem with it.

Hope you get your problems worked out!

Nushif
September 12, 2010, 02:33 PM
Here's just an observation from my end.

In my shooting career I *grew up* on subcompact and compact pistols. (From Snubbies, to semi-autos) My current main gun, as a matter of fact is a subcompact Glock. It has never jammed and never stovepiped and never done anything that wasn't my faulty ammo. For me.
I hand it to my wife, who *grew up* on long rifles and Beretta Compacts. (read: fullsize guns) And she can't shoot the thing worth a damn. It fails to eject, fails to fire, she misses more than usual ... you name it.

That being said I'm not trying to say that shooting sub compacts means you have faulty technique, but you do have to use a *different* technique. There's a different kind of hold involved, and sometimes I daresay a different kind of trigger pull, a different kind of reaction to recoil, you name it.
I still do believe, again based on my observations that smaller guns, to run reliably either need habits trained out of people, or well ... you get your initial habits from smaller guns.

That being said, try it again and hold it very, very high on the backstrap. When shooting since you won't be able to *completely* absorb the recoil, don't let the little sucker move an inch backwards. It may pop a little. But not an INCH back. It works for me.

And if anyone says "My gun shouldn't need me to train myself for its ergonomics." then they're deluding themselves, too. If guns didn't require some training there wouldn't be any NDs in the world and we'd all be prefect shots.

Olympus
September 12, 2010, 09:15 PM
I'm confident in my technique shooting handguns, I've shot them for many years, subcompacts all the way up to Desert Eagles and Encore pistols.

I've had the gun all apart when I was cleaning it before I went to shoot. Nothing out of the norm that I saw. Mags are assembled correctly and the lips look just fine. I've been using One-Shot for a long time on all of my weapons. It's never been the cause of a problem and all of my guns are running as smooth as new. If it ain't broke, I ain't gonna fix it.

I'll go buy 50 rounds of something different this week and see if I can get it to do anything different. I don't have a lot of confidence though. I've already tried two different types of ammo.

Hanzo581
September 12, 2010, 09:23 PM
I doubt ammo will change anything, lots of us I'm sure use WWB with our SR9c's.

Tilos
September 12, 2010, 09:40 PM
Well, never mind then.
Sounds like you believe you have enough experience to sort it out, but cannot.
Send it back and keep us posted.

HoosierQ
September 12, 2010, 10:31 PM
"Numerous threads regarding the SR9c. Search function will provide you with all you want to read..."

HoosierQ
September 12, 2010, 10:34 PM
So the SR9c is working out so good for you then? That is really a shame. Seems like a nice platform. There have been so many positive reviews. I guess there are always lemons or problems with individual styles of shooting...limp wristing and whatnot. I shot a full-size SR9 right out of the box and we put 250 rounds through it at least without a single issue of any sort whatsoever. Very unfortunate.

ohwell
September 12, 2010, 11:35 PM
May I suggest cleaning it again. This time using clp or trilube or something similar spray the striker and work it back and forth do the same with the trigger group spray them work them while they are wet than spray again tip it over and let it dry. I really like to use a little synthectic grease on the rubbing parts of the barrel the lugs and the rails but oil should work well to . This was how i loosened the working parts of mine up they seemed a bit sticky until I did this.

Olympus
September 13, 2010, 09:53 AM
"Numerous threads regarding the SR9c. Search function will provide you with all you want to read..."

I'm familiar with the search feature. This isn't my first post here at THR. Not looking or searching for information either, just posting a range report.

HoosierQ
September 13, 2010, 12:23 PM
Oh my gosh that's funny Olympus. I figured you'd get it. It just keeps getting funnier.

Olympus
September 13, 2010, 02:59 PM
Oh my gosh that's funny Olympus. I figured you'd get it. It just keeps getting funnier.

:rolleyes:

I forgot to mention that I did work the slide back and forth a hundred or so times before I went to shoot. I had read a lot of posts about the slide release being pretty much impossible to press when the gun is first new. Mine was exactly the same. By the time I got done cycling the slide, I was able to get the slide to release just using my thumb. Thought that might go a long way into getting some of the pieces to break in a little, but it doesnt' seem like it.

I called Ruger this morning. They said those were all common problems with the gun. They emailed me a shipping label and the gun will be going back to them in the morning. Ruger customer service was very good. I will continue posting as I know more.

KBintheSLC
September 13, 2010, 04:08 PM
Sounds like a bad apple. These things happen to the best of 'em. I am betting that Ruger will take good care of you though. I have only used their service once, but it was good and fast. Try to be patient... it can be hard when you are excited about a new toy.

Copernicus
September 13, 2010, 04:18 PM
My SR9c is at Ruger as we speak for some barrel peening problems. So far Ruger's customer service has been wonderful. We will see when it gets back

Tilos
September 13, 2010, 04:40 PM
Olympus:
Get a grip...









Sorry, I apologize for typing that, but I had too:D

Olympus
September 13, 2010, 05:19 PM
Get a grip...

If I had a dollar for that one...:neener:

buy guns
September 15, 2010, 07:24 PM
Just wanted to report that I was able to go shooting today and simply cleaning the factory grease out and lubing the gun with CLP pretty much solved all of my problems. Out of 50 rounds I only had 2 FTEs compared to an almost 50% rate the first time I shot it.

Tilos
September 15, 2010, 10:49 PM
buy guns:

Good to here another successful "fix" with a simple wipe and lube.
Of all the cheap ammo I've bought/shot UMC has the longest over all length.

Olympus
September 16, 2010, 10:25 AM
Yeah, that's definitey good to hear that yours has gotten better.

Personal choice for me, but two malfunctions out of 50 wouldn't be good enough to earn it place on my hip for protection. I've got two many other guns that are up to and into the 1000s of rounds without a malfunction to pick from. When I get the gun back from Ruger, it's going to have to really prove itself for reliability. Because knowing my luck, if I ever were in a situation where I needed to use the gun, those 2 out of 50 malfunctions would be my first two shots.

meef
September 19, 2010, 03:11 AM
I bought a new one and took it to the range recently with 4 different brands of ammo to wring it out a bit.

It worked flawlessly for me.

My wife kept getting stovepipe after stovepipe.

I looked more closely at her grip & form and noticed that she had a bend in her right wrist. I suggested that she straighten her wrist out and she did.

Bingo! No more malfunctions.

All in all I fired about 150 rounds through it with nary a hiccup, and after getting her grip right, she managed about 50 with no issue.

My $.02.

I love this gun.

:)

Olympus
September 20, 2010, 11:24 AM
Thanks for the input. As I've said though, I'm confident that it's not my grip or technique.

Olympus
September 28, 2010, 09:39 PM
Update.

I just received my SR9c back from Ruger today. They received it on 9-14 and returned it on 9-24, so 10 day turn around time is awesome!

The paper enclose with the notes state the following:

Extractor - Repaired
Striker Assembly - Replaced
Striker Cover - Replaced
Trigger Bar Reset - Replaced

They function-fired 50 rounds using my magazines without malfunction. So it looks like things might be all better. I'm just glad to see that it wasn't my technique! I will be taken out this weekend and shot probably another 200 or 300 rounds just to make sure.

Carter
September 28, 2010, 10:06 PM
Good luck.

Hope its as reliable and accurate as mine is. Now if only I can get myself as accurate as the gun....

Olympus
October 6, 2010, 10:40 AM
I took the gun out this past weekend and ran about 300 rounds through it with both mags. Out of the 300, I only had 1 stovepipe. So I'm hoping that was just a fluke and it will smooth out more as I shoot it.

One thing that did concern me was that the gun would not cock about 2 to 3 times per magazine. It would eject without a problem and rechamber another round without a problem. But I would go to pull the trigger and it was like the trigger never reset from the previous shot. I would have to rerack the slide to get it cock again. It was really regular like I said, probably 2 to 3 times each magazine.

Any thoughts?

mesinge2
October 6, 2010, 07:36 PM
Olympus, man you have some luck.

I had a POS Cobra 45 that did that. I had to pull the slide about 1/8 of an inch to reset the trigger. I never did find out what did it. I purchased it for a boat gun (so that if it fell over the side it only cost $130.00). I traded it for a Hi Point for the same purpose.

I hope that you can get this new issue resolved. I would have been on the phone to Ruger already!

Good luck.

Olympus
October 6, 2010, 08:44 PM
You're telling me. I'm not gonna get in a big hurry about sending it back to Ruger yet. I'm gonna give it another couple hundred rounds and see if it smooths out.

But you're right, sometimes I could pull the slide back to right before it ejects the shell and it would reset the trigger. But then other times that wouldn't work either and I'd have to rack it all the way back and pick up the round. I've just got some bad luck with this deal. :o

Carter
October 6, 2010, 08:54 PM
Have you stripped it down yet and made sure everything is in good condition?

Olympus
October 6, 2010, 11:23 PM
Gave it a quick look over when I got it back. Nothing caught my eye. And I'd hope that after a second trip from the factory, it wouldn't still have something wrong with it. That's why I'm going to give it a few hundred more rounds before I decide to send it back again.

Mike J
October 8, 2010, 10:31 AM
Olympus there are some stickies at rugerforum.com that show how to detail strip a SR9 if you think a deep cleaning would help. I would probably send it back if it still wasn't right. One member over there had an early SR9c he had to send back a couple of times for them to get it right. He is loving it now though.

Olympus
October 8, 2010, 11:13 AM
I'll take a look at the stickies and give it another cleaning, just in case. But I'm really feeling like it's something else. It wasn't doing this originally when it was having all the FTEs and FTFs. We solved that problem, but now we seem to have another one.

Maybe I'll head over to the Ruger forum and see what else I can find out.

shockwave
October 19, 2010, 12:17 AM
Just got mine this weekend:

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r136/southerneditor/seruger3.jpg

Loaded up both mags with Corbon DPX, after a full strip and cleaning, and removal of the Mag Disconnect Safety. It carries well and feels tremendously solid. If you're looking for a great buy on an accurate 9mm built like a tank, give one of these a check out at your gun shop. While I prefer large-caliber revolvers, being able to send 18 rounds of 9mm downrange as fast as I can pull the trigger is a good feeling.

Olympus
November 28, 2010, 10:53 PM
Just wanted to give an update on my SR9c. Since my last post, I've probably put close to 750 rounds through it. No FTEs and no FTFs. I also have not had a single problem with the trigger not resetting either. It looks like the gun just needed a little longer "break in" period than most are seeing. I'm happy that things seem to be better now.

mesinge2
November 28, 2010, 10:59 PM
Happy this worked out for you. I am planning on buying one of these in January (have to pay for christmas first).

Also, may your next pistol purchase be easier than your previous ones.

Tilos
November 29, 2010, 09:28 AM
Olympus:
Thanks for the update.

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