double barrel or pump shotgun for cowboy?


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bofe954
September 11, 2010, 07:23 PM
What do most people use, which is most competitive? Any specific models?

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Jim Watson
September 11, 2010, 10:00 PM
The only pump gun allowed by SASS is the Winchester Model 97 or foreign copies thereof.

It is very fast when operated by a peculiar single loading technique that I doubt was ever seen in a gunfight or a goose blind.

Doubles may not have ejectors (easily disabled in most that come with them) in spite of the design considerably predating 1897.

SASS#23149
September 11, 2010, 11:12 PM
at all the cowboy shoots in my area,the model 97 is THE shotgun in use. I use a double barrel because I'll never think of a pump gun as being cowboy,but i'm in the very small minority on this..VERY small.
I believe one or 2 of the catagory's requires a double be used,but other than that the '97 rules. the roost.
pump guns are limited to loading a max of 2 rounds to keep them on the playing field with doubles. IN 'wild bunch' shoots they generally load them up full tho.
with practice they can be single=loaded and run VERY fast.

bofe954
September 12, 2010, 01:44 AM
A friend of mine recommended the 97 and I was real surprised, and wanted to confirm it. I'll have to find youtube of someone shooting one. I thought a double barrel would be quicker, but I guess not.

Red Cent
September 12, 2010, 10:52 AM
Scroll down to shotgun. Then enjoy the rest.

http://www.spencerhoglund.com/worldrecords.html

bofe954
September 12, 2010, 11:17 AM
Thanks, Red Cent. I'd found some stuff of lead dispenser on youtube. That site has a lot of stuff to look at though. I am a USPSA shooter, but I know a few CAS guys. I am going to start gathering equipment and try and shoot a little.

Jim Watson
September 12, 2010, 11:20 AM
I thought a double barrel would be quicker, but I guess not.

Not under SASS rules. Those guys are very fast single loading "over the top."

Under real world conditions, with the pump shot from the magazine as John M. Browning and Winchester Repeating Arms intended, and with ejectors in place on the double, it would depend on the number of shots to be fired.
Two shots - double.
Three to six shots - pump.
More - I think the double.

Smokin Gator
September 14, 2010, 12:19 AM
Lately, the percentage of shooters using double barrelled shotguns in SASS has increased. Even some of the better shooters who have used 97's in the past have switched to doubles because they have had more reliabililty problems keeping their 97's running. Also, shooters are buying a lot more skb and Browning doubles and getting them set up for competition than in the past. There has also been a trend away from vertically staging the shotguns. The double barrelled guns were more difficult to pick up and would tend to close when restaging after use (must be open and empty). This gave the 97's an advantage but now that they are more often staged horizontally on a table or window ledge, it has evened things up a bit. Mark

Red Cent
September 15, 2010, 12:28 PM
Red River Ray aka Harris Rummage is one of the top if not the top cowboy shooter around. This cowboy practices th double incessantly. He recently won (overall top shooter) the big match In Illinois.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5g7BfG_IG0

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