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Damoonvandit
September 12, 2010, 02:37 AM
Hey everybody, new here but i see that you guys help people a lot... i'm just wondering which would be a good 9mm under $500, i have in ming the Berreta PX 4 and the Walther P99 AS....any other suggestions or comments would be welcome....
Thanks!

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Damoonvandit
September 12, 2010, 02:40 AM
Also thinking about the CZ 75B 9mm Stainless Steel, 16 Rd Mags!

Zotter
September 12, 2010, 02:40 AM
Check the Bersa line - lots less than $500 and good shooters.

VegasAR15
September 12, 2010, 02:53 AM
Well, hate to sound repetitive, but Glock 19.

Deus Machina
September 12, 2010, 03:18 AM
What do you want it for?

A tacklebox gun? You can get Hi-Points, a tacklebox full of ammo, and a canoe for that.

For the home? My favorite is used pre-M&P S&W autos, for about $350. Or hit gun shows and shops; a friend just got a used Trijicon-equipped (now dead) ex-police Beretta 92 in DAO fashion for $275. Or, like others have said, a CZ (I'm a fanboy!) or used Glocks.

The range? A used Glock, CZ, S&W, pretty much anything that catches your eye.

Concealed carry? Taurus makes a few decent 9mm's, but I'd prefer a used one from a brand higher on the list. My first CC piece was a 2nd-gen S&W. My current one is a CZ PCR. Used Glocks will do you well, if the grip agrees with you.

Damoonvandit
September 12, 2010, 03:25 AM
Well, i'm thinking on one that would be good or better than good for cc, range, and home protection...a good all-around reliable 9mm or .40!

Question, i have a friend selling me a Walther P99 AS 9mm for $695, is that ok price wise...it's BN in the box!?

PT1911
September 12, 2010, 04:22 AM
Glock, XD, Kahr CW series, used CZ 75(Own one, great guns I prefer all steel versions), New CZ 75 variant, Steyr M9-A1 if you can find one (I own one, my favorite polymer!!), CZ PO7 ( I own one and love it!)

Rather than the Walther P99 AS which will cost you damn near $700, look at a used police trade in Smith and Wesson 99.. they have the AS trigger system and can be had for under 400 bucks... Just a thought.

JohnBiltz
September 12, 2010, 04:34 AM
Glock 19 or 26. PX4 or PX4c. A quality maker in the compact of subcompact will work for either. Go compact if your preference is for HD and subcompact if its CC. Full size guns are for range and HD. Your best HD pistol is one that is always on your body. This lets you get to your long gun. At least that is what I think.

Damoonvandit
September 12, 2010, 05:06 AM
Thanks for the help guys!

Onward Allusion
September 12, 2010, 05:10 AM
Gotta be a Glock 19. Small enough for CC, fun and cheap enough at the range, and dependable all around - including home protection - with a Glock 17 mag.

Tilos
September 12, 2010, 11:08 AM
Damoonvanit said, "better than good for cc, range, and home protection"

Pick any two:)

9mmepiphany
September 12, 2010, 11:28 AM
If you don't mine a little holster wear, an excellent choice might be a LE Trade-in Sig 226...about $450 earlier this year

Average Joe
September 12, 2010, 01:52 PM
The CZ line of pistols is your best bang for the buck.

triplebike
September 12, 2010, 02:57 PM
Well, i'm thinking on one that would be good or better than good for cc, range, and home protection...a good all-around reliable 9mm or .40!

Question, i have a friend selling me a Walther P99 AS 9mm for $695, is that ok price wise...it's BN in the box!?
Do you realize that you can get two of these ( one 9MM & one .40) for close to the price of the above?

http://www.stoegerindustries.com/firearms/stoeger_cougar.php

They sell for $369 NIB each. The other kicker is they're every bit as high quality as the above & probably a bit more reliable. Beretta has been making firearms for a long time & the Cougars have more than proven themselves.

If the ergonomics fit your hand you WILL NOT find a better handgun for anywhere near the price.

hardworker
September 12, 2010, 03:00 PM
You can find used beretta 92's for that price.

bigfatdave
September 12, 2010, 05:42 PM
Walther makes nice stuff, as does CZ.

You'd be best served renting or borrowing guns and then choosing what you want, though. I can't choose a gun that fits your hand in person, let alone on the 'net without a clue to what you like or what experience you have.

Get yourself a pile of guns, even gun-shop handling will give you a better clue than a bunch of WAG from the internet.

Add the XD line from Springfield to your list of "should try out" guns, they're good for just about everything if you dig the ergonomics and don't mind the width. Either used or an "essentials package" can come in under $500, I'd go with a subcompact 9mm myself. (in fact, I sort of did, MrsBFD packs an XD9sc most days, I just get to use it on the range)
If you want good concealment, Kel-Tec makes good small pistols, although they're not exactly fun on the range for extended shooting, sometimes they need a little TLC out of the box as well, I th8ink of KT guns as a nearly-complete hobby kit rather than a 100% complete gun.
Taurus makes affordable guns, but their QA on autos sometimes leaves a bit to be desired.
I hear good things about the little Px4, but I don't like the ergos or safety setup (for me, which has nothing to do with you)
A Glock can be <$500 on the used market, again the ergos don't work for me but you might like it

For any of these pistols you'd need to actually go put your hand on one to even make an educated guess (and shoot one a few times to be 100% sure)

good or better than good for cc, range, and home protection
Unfortuantely, it rarely works that way in the price range you put up. Really good concealment guns under $500 aren't going to be great as range toys most of the time. You're either going to have to hunt for a really good deal or make a compromise.

labhound
September 12, 2010, 06:23 PM
I'll second the Stoeger Cougar in 9mm, .40 S&W, or .45 ACP, I paid $419 for the 9mm and $449 for the .45 ACP, both brand new. Best buy going!

bgrav321
September 12, 2010, 11:00 PM
Sig SP2022

Confederate
September 13, 2010, 01:07 PM
The CZs are a good bet, in my view. If you can find a Taurus PT-92 stainless, I'd certainly consider that. Also a S&W 659/5906 if you can find a good used one.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh198/jriler/Taurus92_1.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh198/jriler/SW5906_2.jpg

If forced to go with a polymer gun, go with a Springfield. The Glocks lack a decent safety and they're unsafe to handle if you're groggy or anything less than ready to go. There're far too many accidental discharges with those guns and they tend to malfunction if your wrist isn't set straight.

lucky-gunner
September 13, 2010, 01:56 PM
Depends on what it is you are looking for.

My CZ 75B has been a pleasure to shoot. I haven't had any malfunctions in 3000 rounds and it's far more accurate than I am.

If your looking at a modern polymer pistol than any of the big 3 will fit your needs. Glock 17/19, S&W M&P 9, or XD 9

Shadow 7D
September 13, 2010, 04:04 PM
You can get most service weapons at that price or much less, I personally like the stoeger cougar, its the same gun that beretta made, but now for a bit less.

ichiban
September 14, 2010, 06:23 PM
I'm a big fan of the FNP-9 myself.
Here's some more reading for you: http://www.best9mm.com/

Lar1911
September 14, 2010, 06:30 PM
You will be happy with the P99 if you buy it. CZ's are great guns

Dont forget to look at the Ruger SR9, its thinner than other double stacks, feels like a 1911 good gun

Publius1688
September 14, 2010, 07:00 PM
The Walther 99's are solid. Go to your local range with some cash, and rent/shoot several different 9mms. Make sure S&W M&P, Glock, CZ, and Taurus (why not?) are included. Figure out which one fits you best. Then haunt the For Sale section here for a while--you might get lucky.

ET
September 14, 2010, 09:31 PM
The Glocks lack a decent safety and they're unsafe to handle if you're groggy or anything less than ready to go. There're far too many accidental discharges with those guns and they tend to malfunction if your wrist isn't set straight.

This again? Really? Don't you think any handgun is unsafe if you are "groggy or anything less than ready to go"? It doesn't matter who made the gun if a home owner is not awake enough to safely handle it.:eek: Accidential discharges are not caused by these handguns. They are caused by owners who are either "groggy" or stupid.

Zerodefect
September 14, 2010, 10:26 PM
Glock 19
S&W M&P
Walther pps
Kahr Pm9, Cw9

....at least get something slim enough for carry. I don't understand the giant M9's, isn't fullsize for .45? LOL.

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