Question for Old Fuff, or 1911Tuner, or 1911 folk's


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goste
September 13, 2010, 11:20 PM
Hi. I have a question I hope one of you can answer. Some years ago, my Dept. received 4 1911 .45's. These came UPS. from a Gov. arsenal in Tx., near as I can recall.

In the shipment, was a Colt marked 1911, a Springfield, and an Ithica. The forth one has no makers name. I had forgotten about these, as I didn't want one, at the time ,and I ran across this one in the Arms safe. The one with no makers name, that is

All of these were rebuilt at one time, as the Parkerizing is pretty dark, and in pretty good shape. It has a serial no.14050xx, on the right side. Under the slide stop pin end, it has a large SA. Above that, is model 1911a1 u.s.army On the top of the trigger guard, it has a v. On the bottom of the trigger guard, across from the Mag. release screw, it has a letter I. Above the Serial #, it has United States Property...On the slide, above that, it has a #53397. On the barrel it has 45 auto, and under that, #7791193

On the left side of the pistol, under the slide stop thumb shelf (?)it has FJA stamped. On the slide it has a #7790314 Thats about it for stampings. The slide stop, safety, grip safety, hammer, are almost black, and the rest of the gun is kinda a greenish gray.

Can anyone tell me who made this pistol, and why the mafufacture is not stamped on the frame? I haven't removed the grip panels yet.

Thanks to any who may know........on a scale from one to ten, I would rate this a 7.5 at least....

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Olympus
September 13, 2010, 11:29 PM
On the left side of the pistol, under the slide stop thumb shelf (?)it has FJA stamped.

This is an inspector marking for Frank J. Atwood, if memory serves. I'm not having any luck with the other questions.

My old man says FJA stamps were mainly on Remington Rand and Ithaca pistols.

Jim Watson
September 13, 2010, 11:44 PM
The receiver is a Remington Rand made in 1944. You just have to look stuff like this up by serial number and inspector's stamp. If you haven't got the big expensive reference books. www.coolgunsite.com is a pretty good source.


FJA=Frank J. Atwood was the Army chief inspector for Remington Rand and Ithaca, the stamp was applied by an inspector working for him.

SA means the gun was overhauled at Springfield Armory, no connection with the corporation selling foreign copies now.

The barrel and slide with blueprint numbers, not serial numbers, starting 779--- are replacement parts from as late as the 1980s. 53397 is the CAGE code for
Numax Electronics, Inc., New York, NY, with deliveries of several thousand slides in 1981.
Seen at:
http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=14599&highlight=53397+cage&page=2

Olympus
September 14, 2010, 10:08 AM
I was leaning toward the Remington Rand, but didn't have any way to look up the SN. Thanks for confirming, Jim.

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