Do Glocks need to be tuned like a Colt 45 auto


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357reloading
September 16, 2010, 03:14 PM
I recall when i had my Colt 45 auto, I always wanted to send to Custom Gumsmith for tigher bushing and work on the locking breech . parts.


My questions is, Why do I never hear about similar work being done by high end gunsmiths on Glocks?. Granted no bushing at end of barrel, no moving part for the locked breech.

Are Glocks just that good out of the box? Have two Glocks 17l and a 29SF.

I have a video showing how anyone can do the simple polshing and modificattins.

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KBintheSLC
September 16, 2010, 03:16 PM
No... they do not "need" anything to function properly. On the other hand, they can be customized ad infinitum. I think the difference is that almost anyone can drop in custom parts on a Glock, whereas the 1911 may require some stones, files, and buffer wheels, which may be better left to the pros.

rduckwor
September 16, 2010, 04:01 PM
My Lord, don't you read?? GLOCK = PERFECTION. The gospel according to St. Gaston.

Actually, you can get after market parts for various things such as reducing the trigger pull weight, etc. But they shoot fine out of the box.

RMD

Strahley
September 16, 2010, 04:09 PM
The way they were made, and what they were made FOR, out of the box they are pretty much perfect for that. I will not say they are a "perfect gun" (there is no such thing), but for it's intended use, it's spot on

So, why not? Because no aftermarket parts will help aid with their reliability. In fact, most aftermarket parts start to hinder that. These are not race guns. These are not long range "hey look at this 1" group at 50 yards!" guns. They are not show guns. They are not guns you pull out at the range and people go "omg thats so awesome! i want 10 of them!"

They are combat/war guns designed to run all day every day, and to save your life when you NEED a gun to save your life. The trigger is adequate for what they were designed for. If you can learn the factory Glock trigger, you will have no problem being plenty accurate for the intended purpose of the gun

Strahley
September 16, 2010, 04:14 PM
Think of a 1911 as an old muscle car you are rebuilding, and a Glock as a Chevy pickup truck

You will want specific parts to get that muscle car to where you want it. It'll take time and money, but when it's done, it'll be amazing. However, it's not something you will want to drive to work everyday, especially in bad weather. You want to keep it as nice as possible, because it's a nice vehicle

The Chevy truck, you buy it, put gas in it, and keep driving it until the wheels fall off. If something goes wrong, it's typically an easy fix you can do in your driveway. You don't care about driving it in the winter, because it's a truck and you don't care if it gets some dings on it. It only adds character

Tully M. Pick
September 16, 2010, 04:24 PM
Apples and oranges. I have resigned myself to the fact that I'll never have a Glock trigger feel as good as one of my 1911s.

G. Freeman
September 16, 2010, 04:31 PM
Glocks are good to go as it is. The only change I like is a 3.5# connector.

lions
September 16, 2010, 04:36 PM
Old GI 1911s didn't need to be tuned and tweaked, they were combat handguns that were designed to run. That is what Glocks are as well. Nowadays everyone wants their 1911 to be a match target pistol shooting one hole groups at 25 yards, a gun like that needs tuned and tweaked.

If you want apples to apples compare a GI 1911 to a stock Glock, and a custom match 1911 to a Glock race gun.

AWorthyOpponent
September 16, 2010, 04:41 PM
think of a 1911 as an old muscle car you are rebuilding, and a glock as a chevy pickup truck

brilliant!!!

Waywatcher
September 16, 2010, 05:37 PM
As long as we're on automobile analogies,

I would say that Glock=Honda Civic (boring, reliable, practical)
and that Revolvers=Pickup trucks (multi purpose)

Mags
September 16, 2010, 05:45 PM
Every time I buy a Glock it gets a steel guide rod and captive spring and a 3.5lb Scherer connector before I even leave the store with it.

When I buy 1911s the only thing I add or tune is thinner more agressive grips and Nighthawk or Wilson mags.

So for me I tune Glocks more than my 1911s.

Zerodefect
September 16, 2010, 06:32 PM
1911's need to be personalized to the shooter. So do Glocks.

All my Glocks get: Warren Sevigny solid black Competition sights, SS or Tungsten guide rods (I keep the stock recoil spring), Zevtech comp spring kit, 3.5 Lonewolf connector, Dawson Precision front Fibre optic sight (as thin as they offer).

Some Glocks get more glockworx parts like the Fulcrum trigger, Light stricker, light striker spring.


All my 1911's get custom grips from Sarges grips, Heinie Ledge solid black sights, Dawson precision Fibre optic front sights, 10-8 slide stops, Ed Brown 25lpi straight backstraps, and I fit Ed Brown large paddle type thumb safeties to fit my thumb.

My best 1911, will get Hard Hat, Melonite, or Ion Bond when it's time comes.

It's unfair to compare a semi-custom or custom 1911 like a DW,LB, W, EB to a Glock. Those totally blow away regular grunt 1911's which are a better match to the Glocks lowly price point. Fairer to compare Kimber, Springy, RR, etc. Nothing in my collection matches my DW V.

IMO, all pistols need a little help. Allmost all pistols need better sights.

The Lone Haranguer
September 16, 2010, 07:00 PM
The design does not lend itself to so-called "match grade" fitting. How would you, for example, tighten the slide to frame fit, when the slide barely touches the frame?

Prion
September 16, 2010, 07:02 PM
You just need an alien hand from the bio-lab in Austria grafted on in place of your own so the ergonomics work! Tune yourself, not the Glock, it's perfect!

I kid, only minor wrist surgery is required!

gwnorth
September 16, 2010, 07:32 PM
My Colt 1911's did not need anything to function just fine (well, my used Gov't enhanced needed a $4 part, but that's because the previous owner had asininely broken it, so not exactly "tuning"). Wanting and needing are two very different things. A good quality, well built 1911 should not need any tuning to go bang regularly and reliably.

That many people who buy a 1911 want to have things changed is perhaps better viewed as testimony to the adaptability of the platform to many different styles and uses.

And, I suppose, that so many may in fact need work is testimony to the fact that some manufacturers can't follow directions (it's not like the specs for the design have been lost to the ages or something).

REAPER4206969
September 16, 2010, 07:38 PM
Of course not. The only thing that may benefit from alteration is sights.

REAPER4206969
September 16, 2010, 07:40 PM
How would you, for example, tighten the slide to frame fit, when the slide barely touches the frame?
Contrary to popular belief, frame to slide fit has little to do with accuracy. The only time it comes into play is when using frame mounted optical sights.

easyg
September 16, 2010, 07:59 PM
Glocks are good to go as it is. The only change I like is a 3.5# connector.
+1

Same here!

Nushif
September 16, 2010, 08:07 PM
From what I've seen since owning a G26 there simply isn't that many options.
I am actually always looking to make both my 92D and my G26 into project guns and having them customized more to me, I think there is also one more factor to consider:

I can't find anyone who has put substantial effort into actually customizing these babies.

From purely a mechanical standpoint there has got to be all kinds of stuff to mess with in these, but you try and find a gunsmith who has tinkered with Glocks or Berettas nearly as much as the ever present 1911. I can't even find slick aftermarket slides for my Beretta!
I really do think a large part of nobody customizing these, or sigs, or HKs or whatever is that most, if not 99% of smiths really only know how to truly customize a 1911.

swinokur
September 16, 2010, 08:07 PM
go ahead. take a swig.

BlayGlock
September 16, 2010, 08:24 PM
No. Although I do like to do a .25 cent trigger job it is not necessary.

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