Your Guns That Didn't Work


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Confederate
September 16, 2010, 05:40 PM
This is a call for those of you with cheap auto pistols that you picked up and never got rid of to now post photos here and tell your stories!

Here are some of mine:

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh198/jriler/Sterling22LR.jpg

I can't tell you how many of these Sterlings I bought of varying
calibers and types, but I was into stainless steel in those days and
I couldn't find ONE Sterling in any caliber that worked. Some of you
lucky ones did. I bought some in both .22LRs and .25ACPs. They
were ALL paperweights.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh198/jriler/Jennings1.jpg

Although others had problems with them, I had remarkable success
with nearly all of my Jennings J-22s. I had one that I shot hundreds of
rounds through. This one is remarkably reliable for four or five maga-
zines, then it begins jamming until cleaned. After I ascertained it's
reliability, I cleaned it and put it in my safe as a collector's piece. I also
bought a few new firing pins and an extra magazine. It's beautiful and
virtually new!

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh198/jriler/Beretta21A_950_Small_2.jpg

This stainless Beretta 21A .22LR (right)gave me fits when I first got
it. It jammed incessantly and was worse than my Jennings. Then
someone here recommended far better ammo (Stingers and CCI
Mini-Mags), and suddenly the gun worked! I wish Beretta still
made these little gems and wonder why they stopped. They're
fabulous, but I wonder how many hundreds or thousands of
rounds I can put through it! The other gun, a Beretta stainless
950 .25ACP, is an astounding gun that everyone should own.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh198/jriler/DAVIS_380_1.jpg

This heavy little .380 is a remarkable little gun that has
never fired a complete magazine without jamming. People
have recommended me getting a new magazine, but at $25
for something that may or may not work, I'd rather put the
$$$ into a hi-cap magazine for one of my other guns.

If you have photos of any of the cheap autos you once used or abused, cursed or cherished, please tell your story and show a photo of them, if possible.

Also, did you have any guns you personally had to destroy they were so bad? Do you have any that you kept as fishing "kit" guns just to shoot tin cans with?

Let's hear your stories and see your photos!

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The Lone Haranguer
September 16, 2010, 08:03 PM
I have a different problem - I bought expensive guns ($500 to over $900) that didn't work. :rolleyes:

AK103K
September 16, 2010, 08:26 PM
I have a different problem - I bought expensive guns ($500 to over $900) that didn't work.
Me too.

Still havent learned my lesson either, but its getting better. I'm running out of makers not to buy. :)

legumeofterror
September 16, 2010, 08:28 PM
This guy has been pretty unreliable.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a248/LegumeOfTerror/IMG_2545.jpg

non2os13
September 16, 2010, 08:38 PM
this one had a problem or 9 itself.
it wasn't cheap though.
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p236/non2os13/DSC00549.jpg

Racinbob
September 16, 2010, 08:46 PM
Don't have a pic anymore but my Kahr PM9 was horrible, even after an all expenses paid on my part trip back to the factory. Oh wait....it wasn't inexpensive.

BlayGlock
September 16, 2010, 09:23 PM
Two Para 1911s.

schmeky
September 17, 2010, 10:22 AM
Anyone remember the little Iver Johnson TP-22? It looked a lot like a Walther, but it shot like something carved from a bar of soap by Gomer Pyle.

J-U-N-K-I-E:cuss:

Russ Jackson
September 17, 2010, 10:29 AM
I won a Raven Arms 25 auto in a card game once. I fired it once and actually threw it away...Russ

Olympus
September 17, 2010, 11:36 AM
This one is definitely unreliable. It's back at Ruger to see what the problem is.

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa121/adambrown69/P9070016.jpg

rklessdriver
September 17, 2010, 01:20 PM
I HAD a nice Kimber Tactical Pro II that didn't work. Horrible gun.

The cheaper guns I've owned over the years all seemed good to go. Star's, Astra's, FM's... all were 100% functional.
Will

45Fan
September 17, 2010, 01:42 PM
Anyone remember the little Iver Johnson TP-22?

My dad has one, carried it just about every where he went. I guess he lucked into a good one, because it is a pretty reliable little pistol.

Olympus
September 17, 2010, 02:34 PM
The cheaper guns I've owned over the years all seemed good to go.

+1

That's been my experience too. My Polish P-64 was less than half the price of the SR9c (still what I consider a budget-minded pistol) and it put that Ruger to shame!

Confederate
September 17, 2010, 07:23 PM
I won a Raven Arms 25 auto in a card game once. I fired it once and actually threw it away...
What happened when you fired it?

I actually had quite a bit of good luck with Ravens. In fact, I never owned any of them that didn't work.

sniper4usmc
September 17, 2010, 08:18 PM
Sig PRO 2022 was POS....FTE/FTF, and empty brass hitting face area..

Onmilo
September 17, 2010, 11:45 PM
Sadly, I wasn't into photographing my guns when i owned the ones that didn't work but the worst offender was one of those Jennings J-22 pistols.

I never could get mine to function as a semi automatic but it would work as a manual repeater.
Accuracy was nonexistent and I ended up loading it with CCI shotshells to kill barn pidgeons that wouldn't leave of their own free will.

I have also owned two of the Beretta 950 style single action pocket guns.
One was an early Minx version in .22 Short rimfire caliber and the other was a .25 950BS which had the safety lever like a 1911.
Both were flawless performers, the .25 my first serious CCW.
This was back when packing a concealed weapon was a misdemenor in Illinois and it took three convictions before the forth became a felony.
$125 fine and wiped off your record in a year.
These were golden, wonderful years here.
I never even had an arrest and most of the cops I had dealings with knew I was packing a gun.
I used the .22 Short as a trapline gun and a plinker.
It was wonderful! I still miss that gun and wish I had it back 25 years later.

Those Sterling pocket guns were fairly popular with cops here as back-up guns.
Most chose the .25 because they felt they were the most reliable over the .22 versions.

MedWheeler
September 18, 2010, 12:04 AM
Grendel P-10. A bunch of us cops got in on a purchase-order deal from the company, which was marketing them to us as potential BU/OD guns when they came out in the late eighties. I think our order was in 1988. Rare was the occasion in which more than two rounds could be fired in succession without a failure in between them. However, its performance did improve substantially after a feed-ramp job. I still own the gun and shoot it now and then. If it's clean when I arrive at the range, it will fire flawlessly for the first two magazine loads. After that, it will fail about once per mag. So, if I didn't have others to choose from, I guess I could count on it as a defensive piece, at least for the first ten rounds (a combat reload is not an option with an internal-mag pistol.)

vwfool
September 18, 2010, 02:03 AM
Kimber Ultra Carry II...Stovepipe, stovepipe, stovepipe. :banghead: Never once fired a complete magazine full without a fialure of some kind.:cuss:

127810

I have another Kimber, a Custom Stainless (Series I), that is one of the most accurate and reliable guns I have ever owned.

oasis618
September 18, 2010, 02:07 AM
I bought a new Kel Tec P32 years ago that would only fire when it felt like it (light strikes). I took it back to the store I bought it and the gunsmith there made it right and it was great after that...right up until it was stolen. It is probably serving some Richard Head criminal very well right now.

ulflyer
September 18, 2010, 09:29 AM
I didn't know Beretta had stopped making the 22 cal 21a. Mine functions well even with inexpensive Mexican Aquila ammo. Keep it the garage where its handy for critters....

hemiram
September 18, 2010, 09:32 AM
My Colt Combat Commander was a total mess, Colt didn't do much to help it. It was and still is , the most expensive gun I've ever bought.
My Walther PPK was terrible. I had several of the clones, in .22, .32, and .380, and they all had issues, but the "real thing" was almost as bad.
I had about a two year period where every new gun I bought had problems, but the used ones, cheap, or expensive, worked great. The last 4 years though, they have all been great. I know it's bound to end soon, but it's been a good run of luck.

benderx4
September 18, 2010, 10:00 AM
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:pEXjjRWuVgEFZM:http://capnbob.us/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/hawg-on-blue.jpg

I wanted this gun to work SO BADLY, but it never did. Sure looked cool, though. Should have known that any gun called a "Warthog" was apt to have issues.

vikinggirl
September 18, 2010, 07:07 PM
Colt Pocket 9. It was my first gun and I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with the darn thing. Was getting very frustrated when someone let me borrow a 1911. Amazed myself with my accuracy and wondered where all of the bullets went that came out of the 9?

6x6pinz
September 18, 2010, 09:13 PM
biggest piece of crap ever. The company has a lifetime warranty but won't take it back to look at it or let another gun smith look at it without voiding warranty. Bought it new direct from factory and have never been able to get more than one round to fire at a time.
Accu tek

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/6x6pinz/firearms/100_2388.jpg

Casaba
September 18, 2010, 09:49 PM
Ruger LCP... FTF 6 rounds in the 1st clip. Tried a few times, sent it in to Ruger, they fixed it. I then sold it but let the guy know about it and showed the return paperwork

I wanted it to work well, but it sucked

xXxplosive
September 18, 2010, 09:50 PM
NAA Guardian .380..............whoa.

wally
September 19, 2010, 12:07 AM
This stainless Beretta 21A .22LR (right)gave me fits when I first got
it. It jammed incessantly and was worse than my Jennings. Then
someone here recommended far better ammo (Stingers and CCI
Mini-Mags), and suddenly the gun worked! I wish Beretta still
made these little gems and wonder why they stopped

Pretty much nobody who is not shooting bullseye 2700 matches is happy with a .22LR pistol that only works if you use ammo that costs nearly as much as 9mm FMJ. I have one, its cute but not much more reliable than my Jennings .22 which was a whole lot cheaper!

My current dud is a Chiappa 1911-22. Two stovepipes in 60 rounds of rather expensive CCI Mini-Mags is a good day, its worse with the bulk pack ammo I expected to be able to use. Its back for repair, we'll see if I threw good money after bad paying the shipping to send it back :(

The difficulty of making .22LR work in a pocket gun is why JMB invented the .25ACP round.

bannockburn
September 19, 2010, 11:23 AM
I had a Sterling .22 that usually could make it through one magazine before the jams started. Same with a FTL Auto Nine .22. My most reliable mini .22 was an Iver Johnson TP-22. Trigger pull was heavy and the finish on it was spotty at best, but the gun functioned just fine. Made the mistake of trading it in on a Beretta Model 21 when they first came out. In retrospect, I should have kept the Iver Johnson. Nowadays the most reliable (but not the smallest), .22 that I own is my Beretta Model 70S.

Taroman
September 19, 2010, 12:37 PM
Purchased this new M&P .45 with great expectations that it would replace my 14-year old Glock 30. Nice pistol, felt great in my hands. Shot well, but never as well as the Glock or my 1911. 3 factory and 12 different handloads. Must be me. My bad. Traded it back for a S&W .357 magnum revolver and never looked back.

http://www.hverovhe.com/S&W.jpg

FriedRice
September 19, 2010, 04:24 PM
Not to beat a dead horse, but the Sig P238. Very nice looking gun, easy to conceal. But multiple FTFs and FTEs even after gunsmithing.

Steve 48
September 19, 2010, 05:00 PM
I know a lot of people that would disagree that the 2022 is a POS. Mine is a gem!!!

PR-NJ
September 19, 2010, 09:22 PM
Had a Smith & Wesson Model 469 back in the early 1980s. (At the time, S&W was mostly making revolvers, and few PDs were using semi-autos as duty firearms.) POS. Don't think I ever emptied a magazine without at least one jam.

david58
September 19, 2010, 09:45 PM
How about a Kimber Pro Carry. Averaged a failure per magazine. Should never have left the factory - in fact, they finally took it back after the dealer took it back from me. They weren't going to until he finally called management up there, and they finally allowed as that the gun was in fact screwed up.

I replaced it with a Kimber Custom II, Stainless, with the credit from the dealer. I will buy more guns from the dealer, but never another Kimber.

Ala Dan
September 19, 2010, 10:22 PM
Beretta 92FS 9m/m "Centurion model" = highly inaccurate; and the same
can be said for my .40 S&W caliber SIGARMS P229. Both were purchased
NIB; and both are NO LONGER in my stable of fine firearms~! ;) :D :cool:

Valkman
September 20, 2010, 03:22 AM
Jennings .380, my first gun purchase for like $80 new and a total POS that wouldn't fire a mag full without a jam.

Colt NRM Government Model - Horrendous trigger pull, never could make it better and finally left it in parts a few years ago. Just "found it" again and am going to buy a bunch of parts from Brownell's to fix it.

Confederate
September 24, 2010, 01:37 AM
Was the Jennings .380 anything like the Davis .380?

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh198/jriler/DAVIS_380_1.jpg

Confederate
September 24, 2010, 01:42 AM
Pretty much nobody who is not shooting bullseye 2700 matches is happy with a .22LR pistol that only works if you use ammo that costs nearly as much as 9mm FMJ. I have one, its cute but not much more reliable than my Jennings .22 which was a whole lot cheaper!
The Beretta 21A works very well now with CCI MiniMags. No complaints with the lighter Yellowjackets either.

It just doesn't like cheap brands like Thunderbolts.

kulprit
September 24, 2010, 03:42 AM
The Beretta 21A works very well now with CCI MiniMags. No complaints with the lighter Yellowjackets either.

It just doesn't like cheap brands like Thunderbolts.
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RimfireChris
September 24, 2010, 05:02 PM
Sorry no pictures, but I bought a Norinco :barf: 9mm Tokarev copy at a pawn shop for $150 in the mid 90's. Biggest POS I've ever owned, horrible safety, plus it looked like it was finished by a 9-year-old with an energy drink and a file.

WRGADog
September 24, 2010, 05:22 PM
CZ P2075 Rami, 9mm. Trigger was awful and gun was way too selective on ammunition it would feed. Had trigger job don and cured the gritty trigger, but could never solve the feeding issues with the gun. Traded the gun for a XDM 9, 3.8, which i like and shoot very well.

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