Seriously. As you might tell by my name, I have a retired racer. He's a scaredy cat (!) in general, but if I ever rack a slide, uncase a rifle or shotgun, or even get out the cleaning kit, he's running for the closet.
I guess he's pretty leftist in general as he expects to be fed and housed without doing any work!:D (sorry I couldn't resist).....
I wonder if any of y'all have any funny stories about pups and firearms...
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December 13, 2003, 07:56 PM
No dogs, but one of my cats (she is now dead) was like that. If I'd dry fire or otherwise cause my guns to make any kind of sound she looked like she saw a ghost and would tear out of the room faster than I've ever seen her run. She would hide out somewhere (usually the basement) for as long as an hour afterwards. My surviving cat (who is usually far more skittish) isn't bothered by guns.
December 13, 2003, 07:56 PM
Our Britney Spaniels would go bonkers
if a shotgun left the house
and they were left behind
December 13, 2003, 07:59 PM
Sorry Chaim, kitties too. Sainted GF's cat once took a nap on top of a pile of shotgun parts so I doubt that kitty has a problem with guns!:D
December 13, 2003, 08:11 PM
I have a whippet bitch who looks at me sideways when I take a gun out of the cabinet, rack the action, etc.
A few years ago I had another whippet who disappeared when I took guns out of the safe. I didn't know where he hid until one day I happened to see a tail sticking out from behind the clothes dryer.
December 13, 2003, 08:19 PM
My cat runs in sheer terror, but that is probably from my habit of occasionally busting caps on my '58 New Army clone or checking firing pins with primed cases.
My dad's Brittanys when they were around would nearly have a happy spasm when they saw a gun because they figured it was time to run a rabbit or chase birds.
Like people, it is all in the upbringing. Maybe your dog just associates guns with loud noises or maybe it had worse experiences in the past. I've had former stray(how I get all my pets it seems) dogs get very cagey around guns, most likely from a life history of being shot at by less kind folks. Dad has one dog now that will take all three of his teeth to anyone in a uniform he sees. Auto parts guy, UPS man, cop, it doesn't matter. I can only figure that prior to him being rescued from certain death at the SPCA he had been horribly mistreated by a uniform wearing owner. Sweet old dog, first time we met I had to put my boot in his mouth to prevent him from chewing on anything important.
December 13, 2003, 08:25 PM
my dog runs away like something ugly is chasin him if he sees one of my airsoft's or anything of simmalar size & color....:rolleyes:
December 13, 2003, 08:43 PM
I took my Boxer (Pheonix) back into the woods behind my Mother-in-laws. Long story short...
Fist shot, from my G26 I found the dog who was next to me 50 yards behind me and afraid of me. I told him everything was OK and let him snif the gun and calmed him down etc.
Second shot, found the dog 4 1/2 hours later 4 miles up the road cowering behind somebodys barn.:rolleyes:
He stays home now.
December 13, 2003, 09:21 PM
a dog and a pile of cats, are pretty disinterested in the whole thing, until I haul out the hoppes. Then the dog just sorta wrinkles his nose, and moseys out to hangout with someone else.
December 13, 2003, 09:21 PM
My dog goes nuts with happiness.:D She always thinks she is fixin to go for a walk.
December 13, 2003, 09:26 PM
Surely I'm not the only one who's propped a rifle in the corner only to have a puppy lift his leg and piss on it?:scrutiny:
December 13, 2003, 09:40 PM
Our oldest dog absolutely hates gunfire. I think it comes from all the July 4th fireworks from when we lived in town (no restrictions - lasts about 2 weeks).
When I go out back of the house to plink, she jumps up on me with both feet to get me to stop. Kind of hard to get good groups that way :) so I have to shut her in the house.
But this fall I shot a deer from the front deck, and she was in gut-heaven for two days. I think she might be starting to get the idea, now .... ;)
December 13, 2003, 09:59 PM
I have one that can smell that I have been just handling guns and she goes nuts, as happy as happy can get. She is a hunting dog, Labrador, and a pretty good one. Guns to her mean fun and excitement. My other dog is a spaz, she does not like guns and will not stay in the room if you get one out. She is a border Collie and a housedog. She could be considered an anti I guess...
December 13, 2003, 10:04 PM
My beagle doesn't even like a gun pointed at him. On the 4th of July he hides in the basement terrified! Don't know the cause, we have had him since he was a pup and NEVER fired a shot within miles of him. Go figure.:confused:
December 13, 2003, 10:14 PM
I've got a weiner dog who hides under the bed everytime I act like I have a gun. However I have a cat who helps me clean guns everytime I do it. I think she realizes that if she can just figure out how they work she can rule the house.
December 13, 2003, 10:22 PM
Missy hides under the bed during thunderstorms, New Years, 4th of July, and when I'm working the actions on autoloaders or racking a pump shotgun. Never figured out why, although we found her as a stray in North Highlands, CA. (Not a lot of thunderstorms there, but gunshots...) :D
She's not big on vet visits, either.
However, my 10-month old future hunting buddy and surrogate son, Bernie, has no problem helping me in my gun room or when I'm reloading. He's been known to snitch a can of WW748 from my reloading bench and play "keep away":
December 13, 2003, 10:36 PM
I inherited a well-trained Dobe, when my oldest got boredwith police work and went back into the army after a three-year hiatus. He was trained to track, and for patrol. If I picked up a gun, he came on "alert". If I aimed, he came to full attention. If this was indoors, with no target in sight, I got a "What the hell?" look from him, and some mumbling.
The only other gunny dog was a Lab bitch who, like the others mentioned, went into spasms of joy when a long gun appeared - and she did this before she had ever been out of the yard on a leash, let alone on a hunt. Handguns meant nothing to her, even when fired. Long guns lit up her genes, somehow. I think all Labs must have some of this in their blood.
December 13, 2003, 11:03 PM
Bob the Big Dumb Dog is an anti. If he even sees me handle a gun he puts his tail between his legs and leaves the room. The cats are not afraid, but are either fascinated or indifferent. One has a bad habit of being a little too interested when it's cleaning time. :rolleyes:
Dunno what Bob's history with guns may be. He's a stray mutt (Labrador / Dalmation / Pit Bull mix as best I can determine) a friend of mine rescued.
December 13, 2003, 11:10 PM
My oldest male is pretty indifferent. If I'm at the range shooting, he distances himsself from the noise and takes a nap. In the dove field he turns into a retriever. (a poor retreiver but he tries)
Females head for the barn if they even see me carrying a gun. (Female dogs!)
December 13, 2003, 11:21 PM
I've got a redbone coon hound (shelter dog) that is scared to death of loud noises. firearms, thunder, the UPS truck.
he's still my baby though.
December 13, 2003, 11:37 PM
I have a "pro-gun" cat that helps clean my guns also. My Rot/Shep dog is an "anti" and keeps as far away as she can get. I believe my pets have an identity problem. Neither one of them realizes they are NOT human and the CAT runs herd over the dog and everyone else in the house....not afraid of anything or anyone!!!!!! :D
With all my black labs, never a lick of trouble. With my 1st German Shepard I didn't know what to expect. My Shep always seemed to eye me with great caution when I cleaned my guns or left the house with them (appeared to be afraid of them). I took my Shep to the Deer Shack and left the dog inside & shot .22 LR outside. Shep didn't care. I switched to .40 S&W and the Shep didn't care. Moved up to .44 Mag and the Shep didn't blink. Let the Shep out of the shack and dog stood like my shadow while I shot. Glad my Shep isn't afraid of guns (but, obviously is very alert to anything in it's environment). :cool:
December 14, 2003, 12:25 AM
My dog, a terrior type thing, was "given" to me by my useless sister... she was afraid of guns but she is getting used to them.
Now, My cat. When I first got her, she was a feral, about 4 years old, with all her teeth and claws (of which she still has). She and I bonded when she bit the crap out of me (and clawed) and I pointed a locked and loaded .22 rifle at her. We came to an understanding.
Georgie doens't even blink an eye anymore when I get a gun out, and she is interested in helping to clean to boot.
There, goes to show ya, cats are better then dogs :D.
December 14, 2003, 01:40 AM
The dogs around my house are a little skittish when I clean something, but they equate spray cleaners with flea dip or antibiotic goops. Two of them aren't anywhere to be found soon after I start a shooting session, but the two Labs don't care much as long as they get their heads scratched between reloads.
The cats tend to be very interested in any detail stripping and cleaning, to the point of being parts chasers/scatterers when I've got some complex thingie all laid out on newspapers on the bench. I don't take the cats shooting, but that's another story for another time.
December 14, 2003, 04:06 AM
My cousin trained her dog to play dead when they pretend shoot him. Pretty funny.
December 14, 2003, 10:48 AM
My cats act like they'd like to take the gun away and beat me with it...all attitude ya know.........sometimes I have to dry fire at them to let them know I'm in charge.................it doesn't work.............:cool:
December 14, 2003, 11:52 AM
My first lab was really gunshy during her initial training. I was afraid she'd never make it in the field. Then on her first hunt, after seeing a bird go down after the "boom" she turned completely around. She could hear me rack a slide inside the house and she'd go crazy knowing she was about to go hunting. Despite getting over her fear of gunshots, she remained terrified of fireworks and thunder her whole life.
My current lab (10 months old) is completely fearless. On her first introduction to the shotgun, you would have thought she was deaf. She didn't even look up from sniffing at something when the gun went off. Of course now that she's had her first hunt, she associates the gun with something positive and does the same dance my old dog did when the shotgun comes out. :D
December 14, 2003, 12:06 PM
my dog is a jack russell , if i'm outside with a gun she is right there to see what we're gonna shoot. if i pull out a gun in the house she goes after the arm i'm holding the gun in. i think she figures i'm gonna shoot her momma. saddlebum
December 14, 2003, 12:07 PM
I took my Shep to the range with me and opened up with a Mini 14 with him at ground zero and he looked bored sniffing the ground. Let someone pull a gun out inside the house though and he will go nuts barking & snarling and charge the one with the gun. Once he's reassured that its ok, he calms down and just remains interested and watchful.
I think he's smart and knows. He goes off when people yell too. I pity the (person) who comes through our door yelling with a gun. At the very least, he'd distract them long enough to let me make my shot(s).
December 14, 2003, 02:33 PM
Our black russian just loves the familiar sound of the AK... never had a problem, often I just park him 20 meters behind me when shooting.
When he was a pup, a thunderstorm surprised us when outside BBQing - I have a rain cover over the grill and stuff and the 10-week old dog slept thru the rolling thunder under the table!
December 14, 2003, 02:44 PM
I thought this would get lots of replies.
I wish those that think all gun owners are raving, hating, paranoid lunatics could see the love of our pets that I see here!:)
December 14, 2003, 02:51 PM
my lab/golden retriever is terrified of guns. She's never seen one used, but whenever she sees one, she runs and hides. The big sissy is also scared of thunder.:D
December 14, 2003, 04:32 PM
Seriously. As you might tell by my name, I have a retired racer. He's a scaredy cat (!) in general
First of all, congratulations for rescuing that dog!
Most greyhound racers are "scaredy cats" when they are retired because of the terrible abuse they endure while they are racers!
A friend of mine volunteers at weekly training sessions for retired greyhounds so they can be socialized enough to bear being with others and maybe being able to go for a walk on a leash without freaking out.
By contrast, animals like race horses are pampered and treated like kings.
Anyway, just thought I'd point that out. :(
December 14, 2003, 04:55 PM
My uncle used to have a beagle (Daisy) who would lay under his shooting bench while he shot rifles. I watched her lay there while we shot so I don't doubt his story:
He made a muzzle brake for a 7mm Rem mag one time for a customer and he watched Daisy sleep under the bench while the customer fired the rifle from the benchtop. He said the muzzle blast actually moved her floppy ears but she just laid there.
He got Daisy as a pup and she was with him constantly until her death at sixteen. Back in those days I think my uncle shot some kind of gun every day so she must have got used to it very early. She was probably deaf at two years old but she chased rabbits until her last year.
December 14, 2003, 10:29 PM
Does anyone know if there is an ear-protection product for dogs? If one took his dog shooting a lot it wouldn't be a bad idea.
December 14, 2003, 10:53 PM
Surely I'm not the only one who's propped a rifle in the corner only to have a puppy lift his leg and piss on it?
I'm sure he was just worried that you were shooting corrosive ammo & was trying to help you with the amonia thing :D .
Our newf just looks confused when there are loud bangs in the general area but our shepherd mix throws on his cape and flys into action to save the day. He'll do his best to bark and race after any thunderstorms that dare to venture into his backyard. Any stray (or otherwise :rolleyes: ) bottle rockets or roman candles that come near him are jumped on and attacked. He even attacks bonfires that are lit in the backyard (we guess it is because he associates the matches being lit with the bottle rockets going off). Wierd dog, but he looks after the kids so he'll always have a place in front of the fireplace to guard the carpet from sneaking off.
December 15, 2003, 11:19 AM
Our dogs aren't anti; they're safey concious!
First, there's Sally -- an English Springer Spaniel. She's about nine now, and she's had a bb gun used against her by the idiot brother when she was a pup, so she understands. I dry fire and play with toy guns all the time, and she watches me with little interest. However, my Dad thinks it's funny to point toy pistols at her now and again :scrutiny: :rolleyes: so she'll make a scared face and take cover behind the nearest person or piece of furniture. She's been duck hunting with us, and didn't seem to have a problem with gunshots, but she sure didn't like feathers in her mouth. :rolleyes:
Then, a little while ago, my younger brother got Molly -- she's a year-old Black Lab. She didn't even have a clue what guns were until my other idiot brother shot her with an airsoft pistol. :scrutiny: She was afraid of them for a day or two, but now she is okay with them as long as they're not aimed at her.
December 15, 2003, 11:32 AM
Rescued a big dog from the pound. 3-yr. old Akita mix, already trained. First time I handled a gun in front of her she got very excited. Took her shooting at clays (informal range) and she hunted down and sniffed the pieces. I thought maybe this dog would hunt...
Took her to hunt upland....she walked about 50 feet, sat down, and refused to move except to head back to the car.
Don't know what her previous owner did. She likes firearms, but doesn't want to hunt.
December 15, 2003, 11:40 AM
My grandparents have a dog that doesn't like loud noises, so he tries to get inside whenever he sees guns, lawn mowers, leaf blowers or whatever. One of their neighbors down the road used to have a dog that would come running towards any gunfire it heard and wouldn't leave you alone if you were shooting. We ended up having to bring a rope with us to tie it up whenever we took guns down to my grandparent's house. Haven't seen him in a while, though ...
My cat doesn't care about guns. She does like to sleep on open, padded rifle cases, though. Even if that means stretching out over the gun.
December 15, 2003, 06:15 PM
My female Shepherd developed am aversion to guns when I bought my Model 44 Nagant. I think it has something ot do with the smell of the ammo as she never even flinched until I bought it and ever since my gunsafe has smelled funny from storing the ammo in there.
December 15, 2003, 07:02 PM
I have a blach lab that we rescued from the pound about 2 years ago. He now about 3 and one of the best dogs I have seen. I don't know how he ended up at the pound our vet seem to think he is a very high breed dog. I just take his word for it. He is a little gun shy, I don't know if he was that way from the beginning or if he turned that way after he saw me put down a feral dog. We live about 2 miles out of city limits and alot of people like to drop dogs out here. My neighbor even seen the city pound come out here and drop of a truck load of dogs. Anyway mine always sets by the door wanting in if he sees me with my tagets and staple gun walking out to the old dead tree. Sometimes I let him in sometimes I let him set by the door. If I had the time to hunt I would try to break him of being gun shy, I think he would make a good hunting dog.
December 15, 2003, 07:38 PM
I used to live with a Giant Schnauzer who was afraid of guns, swords, and anything resembling a weapon. Even when my old Crossman 1700 pump BB gun would come out to play that black-haired, 150 pound wuss would bolt up the back hill and hide under the shrubs. He was afraid of water too. He used to run away when people went for a swim in the pool. Some guard dog.
At least he barked at visitors, the pool guy, the mailman, me, the neighbor, and anything else that moved. Made for a nice alarm system. Even if the alarm was usually set off by something really scary like ----- a light breeze :what:
December 15, 2003, 09:59 PM
it did until i put grey spicy mustard on the stock,set it in the corner,told the dog..NO! and waited quiety around the corner.no more chewing on stocks.now when i get the guns out to clean,he just sits quiety on the floor,gives a groan and lays down.our cat doesnt seem to mind them.he just looks up from his chair and gives you the stare down for a couple of minutes then goes back to sleep.funny..the cat scared itself when its tail knocked a newspaper off the coffeetable.did a complete 360 in midair and walked away snapping its tail back n forth in disgust at my laughing.the dog seemed amused too but knows the cat,a large tom,will get his nose later with a quick swat and dart under the couch.its funny how they get along.the dog ALWAYS forgets.
December 15, 2003, 10:49 PM
My retired (or, more accurately, fired) greyhound is, as expected, quite gun-shy.
My daughter's mutt, though -- She insisted on following us out to shoot when my brother-in-was visiting with his .50-cal Serbu. A quick shot downrange from the Glock didn't send her scurrying back to the house. (This generally works with other dogs.)
The "boom" of the .50 didn't phase her a bit. She curled up in the shade about 20 feet from the gun and took a nap.
December 15, 2003, 11:02 PM
Oddly enough, I had a german shorthair that was a great flusher/pointer, who one day decided she was gun shy. Working the action on any gun just sends runinng away with her tail between her legs!!!
December 16, 2003, 11:30 PM
I used to have a Dachshund (yeah, I had to look up the spelling) that loved it when we would take the guns out the the canal behind the house to get a little practice in. You could fire off a cannon next to that little guy, and he wouldn't flinch. He used to love chasing down jackrabbits bigger than he was, then dragging them home.
As for the 2 labs my mother has, I couldn't say, but I know the female runs for cover whenever there's thunder about, and the male doesn't seem to mind at all.
December 17, 2003, 12:22 AM
We have a Corgi named Toby that will run and hide if I start messing with my guns ... rack a slide, drop a magazine ... any clicking noises and he's off (also runs and hides if you say the "F-word").
But what do you expect from the favorite breed of the Queen of England :neener:
December 17, 2003, 11:41 AM
i have a chesapeake bay retrevier who hates explosions. could be that the first gun she ever heard was a fully auto shotgun (i had a friend whos neighbor was an international arms dealer. i cant really blame her, it scared the be-jesus out of me too. he was not far away, but completely out of sight when he began his testing)
i can handle, dry fire, rack, clean them and she doesnt care, but fire them or set off fireworks and she's looking for cover. doesnt mind thunder or other loud noises. i wonder if its the shockwaves
her namesake, another chessie, was a GREAT hunting dog. my grandmother (yes, she was the hunter in the family) used to fire a cap pistol before feeding it when it was a pup.
in other news, the dog cost me my chance to get a new 1911, just before thanksgiving she need emergency surgery to save her life. she's doing great now, but my savings took a good wallop.
December 17, 2003, 12:00 PM
Drizzt - The Olin Game Farm trainers, years ago, trained young Labs for the field. They had an old Dachshund bitch that was "class monitor". Seeing her run for, and retrieve, downed birds made the pups more interested in what was going on, and seemed to set up a "If that funny looking old broad can do it, so can I" attitude.
Zundfogle - My two boys were partially raised (well, "intensely baby-sat") by a Cardigan Corgi. When they were of the age of elastic shorts and short T shirts, any fighting was ended immediately by a growl and a nip on the exposed belly between these garments. He loved to hunt rabbits with me, but I couldn't take a gun out of the cabinet when the boys were present - got an ears-back, full-ivory snarl. The first time I took both out with a K22 was a traumatic event in this pups' life. He survived it, but needed half a water dish and a long nap when we returned home.
December 17, 2003, 03:19 PM
Three dogs that all leave the room when a gun is out.
December 17, 2003, 03:29 PM
My dog is not only an anti, I suspect him to be a communist as well. (hm.. I probably need food more than that other dog lets go take it)
December 17, 2003, 03:54 PM
Current shedding machine that barks and digs holes and howls at the dog satellite is a fraidy cat about guns.. but don't you go near his yard. He's a baying machine. Beagles are like that. He doesn't liek the noise guns make, slide racking etc. he's also nervous about bubble wrap.
I had a dog when i was a kid that we took shooting/camping all the time, she ran off/got lost once, when she came home she was terrified of guns. We think someone shot at her or shot her with a bb gun.. can't think of any other reason, as she was the kind of dog that loved the outdoors.
Also had a PRO gun dog. A springer named Bear.. if you picked up a gun case he literally would shake with anticipation... cuz that mean we were going hunting! He would get terribly depressed when we'd leave him at home and hunt elk for ten days. He even liked handguns! You'd get out the guns, even just to clean them and he'd sit by the door, eyeing us, like hey.. are we going? Then again i used to run him in a big drainage with a training dummy launcher /and or pheasent wing-covered baseball glove and starter pistol since he was a wee pup. He got used to the idea that BANG meant.. find that bird! (And he got the liver) He'd run ahead, turn around and chuff at you when there were no birds nbearby, but if birds were "in range" he'd stay inside your field of fire. He'd also sit still while we watched elk fight it out. He'd even come outside for fireworks. He was the BEST dog I ever had..
Get all misty eyed when I write about him.
December 17, 2003, 05:11 PM
I had my dog find me, he showed up one time when out calling coyotes. He almost got shot, but I knew that at time of the year, there were no coyote pups that small, and he came up to me crawling on his belly. Anyway, he never has been gunshy. When I shoot, he will lay down about 10 to 20 feet behind me and watch. If I don't go out to the stand to change tergets, he will get antsy and look at me like "when are you going to hit an animal so I can go get it and play with it. He is about 90% Australian shepard. Only things he is afraid of is vacuum cleaners. As long as someone doesn't attack me with a vacuum cleaner, he will protect me.
December 17, 2003, 05:30 PM
whenever i rack the slide or even have them out for that matter my pup comes up and starts sniffing them. then she sits right next to me.
December 17, 2003, 05:36 PM
I had a beagle and a big fat sausage-lab. The beagle would wince at the sound of gunfire, but I don't think it really bothered him. The lab would think it was playtime because I was sitting on the ground shooting. She was always kinda dumb.
Now I have two cats. Neither of them have a clue what a gun is, and don't seem eager to learn. They're too busy being fat and chasing mayflies.
December 17, 2003, 06:42 PM
I had a rescue Westie afraid of a flashlight, let alone a gun, as I found out trying to get him out from under the bed (he pee'd straight in the air when I picked him up :( ). He was also afraid of baseball caps and grass when I first got him. I can only assume that someone wearing a ball cap with a flashlight took him outside and beat him on the grass. Additionally, he was afraid of McD's burgers (smart dog), but only for the first half hour I had him. He wasn't afraid of possums, as his numerous scars attest, though.