Anyone have an opinion of Sellier & Bellot 9mm?


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Hammerhead6814
September 21, 2010, 09:04 PM
The Armory in Kearney, MO had a hell of a price on S&B 115 gr 9mm today. $8.99 a box of 50. $8.99!!! I bought two of them but now I'm wondering, why are they so cheap?

Has anyone here shot S&B 9mm before? Observations? Thoughts? Accuracy?

EDIT: Fixed the gr of the ammunition.

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Roswell_Kid
September 21, 2010, 09:11 PM
155 or 115 grain?

S&B is one of the few easily found ammo brands here, due mainly to the fact that we have a first class CZ importer who also imports the Czech ammunition as well. Ive been through 4 boxes of the 115 grain FMJ and it feels strong and consistent in my 75 Compact.

Hanzo581
September 21, 2010, 09:16 PM
I have only used Sellier & Bellot .380 and it is the only ammo I ever had problems with, so I personally won't buy their product again no matter the caliber. I get my 9mm from Wally World, Federal Champion 9mm 115gr for $9.47 a box and never had any issues with it.

Zak Smith
September 21, 2010, 09:19 PM
I shot quite a bit of it in the 2000-2002 timeframe. If I remember correctly, the bullet has a steel jacket, "washed" with copper. The only squib I have ever had in a pistol round was a S&B 9mm.

a-sheepdog
September 21, 2010, 09:24 PM
I have shot alot of S&B 45 acp ammo without any problems. I would pick it up for that price for practice ammo.

MattTheHat
September 21, 2010, 09:28 PM
I've shot plenty of it in .32ACP, .380ACP and 9mm. I don't recall any problems. The stuff seems a bit hotter than WWB.


-Matt

Full Metal Jacket
September 21, 2010, 09:29 PM
great stuff. been using it for almost 20 years. it's cheap because it's made in the Czech repub, so it's not made by overpaid union workers getting $50/hour to tighten a bolt on the assembly line ;)

Snowdog
September 21, 2010, 09:40 PM
I went through a half-case of 115gr FMJ a while back and hadn't any problems from the pistols I used it in (G19, Taurus PT-99 and K9).

I also purchased a few boxes of JSP S&B 9mm (I believe it was 124gr but I'm not certain) that worked fine as well.

I mostly used S&B for my .45acp handguns back when it still sold for $8/50. The stuff was excellent for the price. Then the first ammunition drought drove prices to twice that and it pretty much leveled off there. That's when I started loading my own, one of the better decisions I've made.
Bottom line, I think S&B is one of the better brands.

I've read Fiocchi and IMI/Samson offered 158gr FMJ in 9mm, but I suspect you're asking about the 115gr for S&B as Roswell Kid mentioned. 155gr is a weight usually associated with the .40S&W and 10mm.

bds
September 21, 2010, 09:50 PM
I have shot a lot of S&B ammo for match shooting quite a few years back. Just as accurate as PMC.

For $8.99/50, I would buy a bunch and buy a reloader with the money I saved! :D

skwab
September 21, 2010, 09:56 PM
I've put several hundred rounds of S&B through multiple 9mms and haven't had a problem that I can recall. The range safe stuff is a little on the weaker side, but I've found that true of any "range safe" ammo I've tried. But for practice ammo it's great.

Pilot
September 21, 2010, 10:16 PM
I've shot thousands of rounds of S&B without issues. Its a good buy and great ammo.

labhound
September 21, 2010, 10:31 PM
I've shot it in .380, 9mm, and .45 acp. All shot fine with no problems.

CZguy
September 21, 2010, 10:38 PM
I've shot S&B extensively for the last ten years, and prefer it to Winchester white box, or Remington UMC.

It is hotter than American ammo.

dtsdave
September 21, 2010, 10:50 PM
I bought 1000 rounds about 6 months ago and am almost through it all. At that price I would buy a ton. I have had zero issues.

Fastcast
September 21, 2010, 11:25 PM
In my experience all S&B, in multiple calibers, has ran flawless......A+

I agree it feels hotter than the low price Win & Rem stuff. :fire:

fireman5069
September 21, 2010, 11:53 PM
I have shot several boxes through my 5906, Stoeger Cougar 9mm, LCP and Bersa Thunder. Never had a problem and is relatively cleaner than a lot of brands. Not much fouling to clean up afterwards.

Shadow 7D
September 22, 2010, 12:16 AM
Better than most other ammo you find at that price.

vaupet
September 22, 2010, 05:04 AM
I've shot 115 gr and 124 gr FMJ 9 mm and 230 gr FMJ 45acp plus some 55 gr fmj 223 rem. All nice and clean, no problems at all.
I now use Geco in 9 mm and Fiocchi in 45.

I am under the impression that European arms function better with european ammo and vice versa though.
The CZ shooters at my club all swear by S&B. They claim CZ are developed and tested with S&B hence, they shoot better.
No scientific proof, just a feeling

JohnBiltz
September 22, 2010, 06:31 AM
I've been getting it fairly cheap at Cabella's. I've shot over a thousand rounds 124 gr ball Police and it feels hot.

wbwanzer
September 22, 2010, 08:57 AM
S&B 9mm is pretty much all that I use. Never had a probelm. I would buy all that I could at $8.99 a box!

JoeMal
September 22, 2010, 08:59 AM
I've run hundreds of S&B 115gr. 9mm through my Glock 17 without any problems.

Roughneck08
September 22, 2010, 09:50 AM
I also have recently shot two 50 round boxes through my G17. Loved it, ran flawless.

The Bushmaster
September 22, 2010, 10:36 AM
An opinion of S & B 9mm X 19? Yup...The cases are great for reloading...

Phil In Idaho
September 22, 2010, 10:53 AM
+1 on the S&B 9 mm. Shot about 700 rounds without a single failure. Feeds fantastic in my Sigma (No jokes) and my P-95. But of course almost anything does.

Cases are fantastic to reload. At the $8.99 price that almost as cheap as just buying one fired cases for reloading.

I'm ordering 14 boxes today for a class in the spring.

Great stuff.

hso
September 22, 2010, 11:46 AM
Back before 2008 I had shot over a couple of thousand rounds of S&B 9mm and found it to be excellent ammunition. I still have S&B 9mm on hand from then so I can not tell you if the current production ammunition is still of the same quality.

1KPerDay
September 22, 2010, 11:48 AM
In my experience all S&B, in multiple calibers, has ran flawless......A+

I agree it feels hotter than the low price Win & Rem stuff. :fire:
Same here. The recent stuff in the red/green/white boxes is quality ammo, IMO.

wojownik
September 22, 2010, 11:58 AM
S&B 9mm has been my principal ammo choice since 1997. Great stuff.

gtmtnbiker98
September 22, 2010, 02:35 PM
Good stuff.

Hanzo581
September 22, 2010, 02:43 PM
With all these glowing reviews I may have to give S&B a second chance, and just write off my first problem as a fluke.

CZguy
September 22, 2010, 02:45 PM
With all these glowing reviews I may have to give S&B a second chance, and just write off my first problem as a fluke.

Please do.......and then let us know what you think.

ET
September 22, 2010, 02:47 PM
Another +1 for S&B.

Shadow 7D
September 22, 2010, 03:04 PM
I love it, esp in .32 and 9mak, really some of the best stuff out there, and I have heard that their 7.62 soviet surplus is the best milsup.

foxmoor
September 22, 2010, 03:05 PM
I shoot S&B in my CZ pistols but other guns as well and it runs great, though I agree it's a little hotter than many other loads of the same caliber. I ususally buy mine on-line at Natchez Shooters.

Kent in MI

briansmithwins
September 22, 2010, 05:57 PM
S&B was what I was using in this picture:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/briansmithwins/IMG_1500.jpg

2k of it thru the Uzi with no problems. I got 1149fps (10.2" barrel) with a standard devation of 14 with the S&B 124gr Range Safe.

BSW

19&41
September 22, 2010, 08:02 PM
The ammo functions fine and the price is right. I've used it in .45, 9mm, .380 and .25 .

tekarra
September 22, 2010, 08:06 PM
I have used quite a bit of it over a period of time and never had a problem. Shot most of it through my cZs and BHPs. It is a bit hotter than US ammo.

Hammerhead6814
September 22, 2010, 08:30 PM
Thought I'd share this with other KCMO High-Roaders, Cabela's has the exact same S&B 9mm for $9.99. It's a dollar more but The Armory didn't have much left yesterday.

foghornl
September 23, 2010, 01:00 PM
I don't have any 9MM shootin' irons, so I can't say about that.

However, I have shot A LOT of their .45ACP stuff...good ammo

frankge
September 23, 2010, 01:41 PM
I bought some on sale and it is marked "POLICE" on the box, never did find out what the difference is. For reloading they are tougher to size and prime but work well.

JohnBiltz
September 23, 2010, 04:59 PM
I bought some on sale and it is marked "POLICE" on the box, never did find out what the difference is. For reloading they are tougher to size and prime but work well.
That is the stuff I've been using. Shot about a thousand rounds of it.

Water-Man
September 23, 2010, 05:44 PM
I've had good success with it in .45acp and .223.

Welding Rod
September 25, 2010, 03:08 PM
I hate to say it but I think S&B is the best value in low cost ammo out there.

I am a big "Buy American" guy and I feel guilty buying imported ammo or giving it a plug, but in my experience it is simply excellent ammo at a very reasonable price.

Browns Fan
September 25, 2010, 03:56 PM
Can we buy it online at that price?

Shadow 7D
September 25, 2010, 04:46 PM
Um, Hate to break it to you but many of the 'American' metric ammo is actually repackaged PPU, S&B or Norma

230therapy
September 25, 2010, 04:57 PM
Works fine. I've shot thousands of rounds of it through various guns chambered in 9x19mm.

mgkdrgn
September 25, 2010, 05:00 PM
It goes BANG in my Glock 26 just fine. Bit of a B*#%& to reload as the primer pockets seem to be a little tight.

Jimineer
September 25, 2010, 07:36 PM
I used it in .357 when that was all I could find. I had no problems and would snatch up as much as I could in 9mm at that price if I could find it.

Welding Rod
September 25, 2010, 11:59 PM
Um, Hate to break it to you but many of the 'American' metric ammo is actually repackaged PPU, S&B or Norma
That is quite a presumptive thing to say to a stranger.

philip964
September 26, 2010, 12:23 AM
I know nothing. I got S&B from the gun store when I bought the gun. It was expensive so I always thought it was like the Lexus of ammunition. So I have been shooting all my Blazer and Monarch ammunition trying to use it up. Keeping the S&B like fine wine for when the SHTF.

Now I find some one sells it for less than Walmart sells Blazer. geez. I know nothing.

ol' scratch
September 26, 2010, 07:36 AM
I have used their ammo in my 9mm and .45's with no problems. I have purchased and fired it in my Garand with no problems. I even reload the brass and it works well. It is a little harder to resize, I think, because they seal the primers. The first reload and they seem to get easier.

The Bushmaster
September 26, 2010, 09:57 AM
Ol' scratch...Be aware that some of the S & B cases are brass washed steel. Not all, but some.

Bentonville
September 26, 2010, 10:00 AM
I have used a lot of 9 and .45 with no problems as all.

reno92
September 26, 2010, 11:15 AM
its junk dont buy it......so I can!!! good stuff.

Manco
September 26, 2010, 01:21 PM
I agree it feels hotter than the low price Win & Rem stuff. :fire:

It doesn't feel any hotter in .40 S&W, for what it's worth (although it seems to be of good quality). And while it may feel hotter in 9mm by consensus (I haven't tried it myself), the published velocities aren't much different--about 40 and 80 fps more, respectively, but S&B uses a 6" test barrel while the others use 4" test barrels, which should account for the difference. Obviously it'd be interesting to see independent chronograph measurements, preferably out of the very same gun (if I had my own range, I'd gladly test them and share the results, but sadly I do not).

Gold
September 26, 2010, 03:43 PM
Never had any issues with S&B

madman
September 27, 2010, 01:07 PM
I've had good luck with it....

--md

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