Did I mess my new gf?


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Vitrophyre
September 22, 2010, 07:45 PM
I lubed my kimber following the manuals instructions then I placed her back in the factory case. A couple days later it looks like the oil pulled color from the foam? :what: I was using the oil sample it came with.

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Prion
September 22, 2010, 07:49 PM
Honestly, your pic isn't very clear.

Try cleaning it again with CLP or something.

Vitrophyre
September 22, 2010, 07:51 PM
Do you see the dark mark on the barrel right under "45 ACP" ?

greyling22
September 22, 2010, 07:52 PM
I've had guns start to rust in their foam cases. I never store a gun in the foam anymore.

WillDe83
September 22, 2010, 07:54 PM
delete

Sam1911
September 22, 2010, 08:06 PM
Don't store a gun in a foam case. Very bad idea.

If the color won't wipe off, try shooting it 5-6,000 times, that area should wear to a nice buffed tone.

Not sure I'd be too worried about the looks of a gun that still has laser warning stickers plastered on it! :D Though, I suppose there is some validity in reminding folks that that end of the gun might not be the best place to hang out. ;)

Zerodefect
September 22, 2010, 08:11 PM
Just brush that off. That entire barel hood will get rubb marks all across it from shooting. My K has alot of rub marks there. Perfectly normal. I think my lube melted some of my case foam as well.

Don't store you K in it's foam case. Mine got rust spots from that. They rubbed off (stainless) except for one tiny pit on the barrel hood that i'll have sanded down next time my K is due for refinishing, it's getting close.

Keep that barrel wet on the outside. Mine was untreated steel and changed colors quickly!

And whats up with the laser stickers :neener:

P30shtr
September 22, 2010, 08:21 PM
As others have said it should wear off with use. If you really cant stand it. I might try a Magic Eraser. Those things will get anything off. If you do, go very gently, couple scrubs, stop, inspect, repeat. Ive never used one on a firearm so... take it for what its worth. Just an idea being thrown out there. I know metal is alot different but, this girl I know used one on her kitchen chairs (wood), picture at the top where one would grab to pull in and out all the time, they kinda get greased from your hands/palms constantly grabbing there and took the finish off a little bit so, if you try it use caution

DasFriek
September 22, 2010, 08:30 PM
If it was mine id hit it with some Scotch bright pads and then some 1500 grit sand paper and it will be mirror polished.
Your boo-boo just became an upgrade!

Vitrophyre
September 22, 2010, 09:17 PM
I can't believe it's not safe to store guns in foam. All my guns are stored in foam! What else are we supposed to store guns in? Custom suede boxes!? :fire:

Thanks for the suggestions I'll try some scotch pads and fine grit.

Sam1911
September 22, 2010, 09:21 PM
The foam holds moisture and keeps moisture that condenses on the gun from evaporating away.

The very best way to store a handgun is on a hard, dry surface like a shelf -- preferably in a pretty stable climate-controlled area.

The world is full of sad stories of guys who opened up their fleece pistol rugs or foam boxes to find a mess of rust on their once-beautiful gun. Clean it, oil it lightly, and set it on a shelf.

bds
September 22, 2010, 10:01 PM
What else are we supposed to store guns in?
My Glocks and M&Ps are stored in Fobus holsters. At night, they are stored on top of our night stands.

All the rest of pistols, shotguns and rifles are stored in 78% Nitrogen, 20% Oxygen, 1% Argon and some trace Carbon Dioxide with water vapor = Air :D

Seriously, they are kept in the safe cleaned and lubed. If you got humidity issue, use some desiccant.

ET
September 22, 2010, 11:39 PM
OK, I must rethink how I store my handguns. All, I repeat ALL of them are stored in their original hard plastic cases neatly tucked between the layers of foam that they came in from the factory. My thinking was...the factory wouldn't supply me with a storage case that wasn't acceptable to store their gun in. Am I really that wrong?

Prion
September 22, 2010, 11:43 PM
http://www.zcorrproducts.com/ and ditch the stickers.

SuperNaut
September 22, 2010, 11:44 PM
I think your region is more of a factor. If you live in a high humidity area, then you are going to get rust problems.

I live in Utah, I could store rust in foam and it wouldn't rust.

bigfatdave
September 22, 2010, 11:56 PM
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If you must store in foam, put some paper towels or cotton cloth in between the gun and foam. But storage with air circulation and controlled humidity is better. I think the anti-corrosion bags are overkill unless you live in a high humidity or wide-swinging temperature area ... or for extreme long-term storage.

But eventually you'll just have to come to terms with a working gun getting the occasional mark on it, unless you're going to make it a safe queen / trophy gun.

Vitrophyre
September 23, 2010, 01:30 PM
"My thinking was...the factory wouldn't supply me with a storage case that wasn't acceptable to store their gun in. " -ET

This was my exact thinking. I used their directions, their lube, their case-- I thought nothing could possibly go wrong! It's almost like they set me up for failure. I think they should have least posted warning signs on the case and/or manual that this could happen. I'm lucky I learned my lesson before repairable damage occurred.

Thank you all for the feedback and advice. Keep those guns DRY!

KodiakBeer
September 23, 2010, 01:38 PM
Use Eezox on the exterior of your guns and you'll never get rust.

porterdog
September 23, 2010, 06:31 PM
ET said, "My thinking was...the factory wouldn't supply me with a storage case that wasn't acceptable to store their gun in. "

All the guns I've purchased new come in a plastic bag and were slathered in some type of protectant gunk (that's a technical term). Remove those elements and....

Skylerbone
September 23, 2010, 09:36 PM
I store mine in pistol cases made of nylon that have a foam pad and a soft interior with a seperate zipper compartment for the pistol and elastic loops for mags. The key to keeping mine rust free is a little plastic square called ZeRust. It gives off a rust inhibiting vapor that protects metals in a semi-enclosed environment. I buy them at Lowes and use them for my fishing tackle, firearms and ammo. Ammo gets dessicant as well to remove as much humidity as possible as does powder and primers. Cost was about $3 each, good for 1 year.

This and any other wonder product are never meant to replace regular cleaning and proper lubrication but certainly help with those firearms that see less range time than they should. FWIW, all my guns came in foam boxes with a piece of wax paper soaked in oil and barrels covered in cosmoline.

Drail
September 23, 2010, 10:34 PM
Factory packaging is designed for shipping use, not storage. Any material that can absorb moisture from the air (even a little) will cause problems. You simply would not believe how many totally rusted shotguns I have seen that were stored in a soft case under a bed. The safest way to store firearms is on a shelf or a rack (in a safe preferably) in open air in a dry environment. Keep them oiled. Check them frequently.

ET
September 24, 2010, 12:08 AM
OK, I see the error of my ways. I guess I need a pistol rack for my safe. Question here. I own a food saver vacuum machine. I am thinking of oiling up the guns I don't use weekly and placing them in some bags and sucking the air out of them & sealing those babies shut. That should work for long term storage shouldn't it? No air = no moisture? I assume the plastic bags won't discolor the gun finish...I hope.:uhoh:

bigfatdave
September 24, 2010, 12:16 AM
Vac sealing is gross overkill, if you want serious long-term storage just go straight to cosmoline.

Are vac-seal bags resistant to solvent wastage? Wouldn't you have moisture in with the gun anyway? Do you want plastic, oil, and metal/polymer in contact for extended periods?

I see the appeal, but it just isn't the best method. If you must bag it, wrap it in cloth (bubba says use clean socks) and put it in an inert dry environment, you could accomplish that with CO2 and dessiccant, I suppose.

Drail
September 24, 2010, 09:34 AM
I know several dealers of collector grade handguns who use vacuum sealed bagging for for storage and display and they have not had any problems. I would brush a thin coat of oil on the gun before you seal it up. (Eezox, CLP, Sheath, etc.) Open air storage is fine unless you live in a very humid area or on the coast.

Ditchtiger
September 24, 2010, 10:56 AM
Please take the stickers off the slide and frame.
It's a handgun, not a race car.

ForumSurfer
September 24, 2010, 11:23 AM
Like others have said, that foam sucks up moisture and holds it. That's horrid for storage.

Clean that Kimber regularly. It has a match grade barrel that isn't stainless. I disassemble and wipe mine down weekly if I carry it during the summer. It's a great barrel, but surface rust will form quickly. This isn't a negative or a poor product in my book, just a fact of life. Everything else made of steel that I own, firearms or otherwise can and will rust...particularly in the hot, humid southeast.

And yeah, take those goofy stickers off. I once had a beretta with factory ct grips...I peeled those off right away.

Overall, putt 1000 - 2000 rounds through it, change the recoil springs and the rest will take care of itself. Enjoy. :)

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