Chiappa Rhino


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OnPointFirearms
September 23, 2010, 01:13 PM
The Chiappa Rhino is a lot like a Lamborghini with its exotic Italian design, advanced engineering, and of course: blistering speed. With this snub-nose revolver, you can send six rounds of .357 magnum down range in 1.39 seconds-- with a minimal amount of felt recoil. Kick is mitigated thanks to the bottom chamber firing position. Although the Rhino looks like it came off the set of Blade Runner, the unique styling has really grown on me.

The first thing you notice about the Chiappa Rhino is the position of its barrel: at the bottom of the cylinder. This form follows function and allows shooters to align the bore with their index finger naturally. The synthetic grips are very comfortable and allow you to get a really high purchase on the weapon. The Rhino's forward-thinking design also introduces radical improvements to the internal mechanisms over a conventional revolver. These features afford the Chiappa Rhino superb reliability, a super-smooth action, and improved safety. Its hexagonal-shaped cylinder creates a flatter profile ideal for carrying the weapon concealed.

The Chiappa Rhino revolver is chambered for the potent .357 magnum, a perennial favorite. While shooting the video, we fired 100 rounds of Magtech 125gr .38 Special +P. ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMhozHQWM8o ) It functioned flawlessly and was a pleasure to shoot. I rarely shoot more than 25 rounds with my S&W 642 during a trip to the range. With +P ammo, it's just brutal. Not so with the futuristic Rhino revolver! However, it does weigh in a bit more than the featherweight Smith & Wesson: 1.58lbs, unloaded. The frame is made of Ergal, an aircraft grade aluminum alloy and although the Rhino is an Italian import, the final fit and finish work is done here in the USA.

The eccentric design of the Chiappa Rhino is not for everyone, but I believe the weapon will enjoy a cult following for many years to come. It's something different and there are shooters that will appreciate its elegant balance of form and function.

I hope you enjoy the pictures and video. Special thanks to Crazy Bill and Cisco for their help at the range. Have a good one and God bless.
-- Evan

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OnPointFirearms
September 23, 2010, 01:14 PM
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September 23, 2010, 01:15 PM
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September 23, 2010, 01:17 PM
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Russ Jackson
September 23, 2010, 01:34 PM
What is retail?...Russ

Zundfolge
September 23, 2010, 01:36 PM
Why is it that every time I see pics of one of these ugly buggers I want one even more? :p

Shear_stress
September 23, 2010, 01:42 PM
It's hideous. I love it.

Zundfolge
September 23, 2010, 01:51 PM
There are 3 of these on Gunbroker at the moment ... prices ranging from 675-725

OnPointFirearms
September 23, 2010, 02:08 PM
See, the look really grows on you. Need beer goggles-- or some sort of impaired goggles to appreciate it. Retail is $775 according to some industry rep info that was sent out to dealers. They're also coming out with some longer barrel versions and stainless with wood grips of the same design. They're handsome and ugly as hell at the same time. We're selling them for $640.
Evan

LawofThirds
September 23, 2010, 02:10 PM
So yeah...fake wood?

Waywatcher
September 23, 2010, 02:27 PM
I like it.

I am particularly intrigued by the "ratchet." It looks like it will last forever. Do you have any pictures of the hand/pawl/thingie that turns the cylinder?

Any idea what the chamber throats & bore measure at?

General Geoff
September 23, 2010, 02:39 PM
It's hideous. I love it.

I concur.

I may have to pick one up when a 4" or 5" model comes out.

Prion
September 23, 2010, 02:44 PM
I love it!!!!

nalioth
September 23, 2010, 02:48 PM
Any chance for some larger pix?

Highest resolution available'd be nice.

TIA

Dnaltrop
September 23, 2010, 02:58 PM
Nice to see it hit the market finally, I think last I saw was a few pictures from SHOTshow.

It's not a Mateba, but it's got a unique enough look to catch my eye too. Love the Grey.

David E
September 23, 2010, 03:13 PM
With this snub-nose revolver, you can send six rounds of .357 magnum down range in 1.39 seconds

Would you please give us the details regarding this?

Timed how?

Was it from 1st shot to last, from the holtster, low ready, etc?

Target distance? Hits (if any)

Load?

BTW, how is the DA pull on that beast? I'd heard it's a bit monstrous.

MrBorland
September 23, 2010, 03:38 PM
you can send six rounds of .357 magnum down range in 1.39 seconds-- with a minimal amount of felt recoil. Kick is mitigated thanks to the bottom chamber firing position.

I assume you mean "muzzle flip" instead of "recoil" and "kick"? There's no way around the physics: .357mags out of a small revolver is going to recoil, so I assume it's all directed directly into he shooter's hand, wrist and arm, no?

The Rhino's forward-thinking design also introduces radical improvements to the internal mechanisms over a conventional revolver. These features afford the Chiappa Rhino superb reliability, a super-smooth action, and improved safety.

Can you elaborate on this, too? What part of a conventional revolver's mechanism renders it less safe, smooth and reliable, and mechanistically, how is the Rhino different and improved in this regard?

Will any of the currently-offered speedloaders work with it?

Zundfolge
September 23, 2010, 04:18 PM
They're also coming out with some longer barrel versions and stainless with wood grips of the same design. They're handsome and ugly as hell at the same time. We're selling them for $640.
Evan

Is it possible to order the snubbie with the wood grips?

GreenMTNLife
September 23, 2010, 04:25 PM
how does the rear sight work? Looks like its the hammer? Or do you sight off the groove on the top strap like J-frames and LCR's? Does another one pop up when the hammer cycles back? Not sure what I think of that...

OnPointFirearms
September 23, 2010, 06:13 PM
Here's the video to prove it. Got this from one of the Chiappa marketing reps:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O217lS2kVRk

-- Evan

OnPointFirearms
September 23, 2010, 06:18 PM
The "hammer" is really just a lever that allows you to cock the weapon into single action mode. There's some internal hammer that is independent to this lever. So, the hammer doesn't move every time you shoot in double action. However, the little red indicator does. If I was going to get one of these, I would just opt for the 200D-- double action only model. I have no need for the single action mode with the way this mechanism works.

Also, Chiappa sent me some pics of the upcoming special edition with Nil-looking wood grips. Will post those soon.

Evan

zoom6zoom
September 23, 2010, 06:18 PM
What you see at the back isn't a hammer, it's a cocking lever.

armoredman
September 23, 2010, 06:39 PM
When is this going into a movie? Some femme fatale HAS to have this in a garter holster...
I wouldn't mind trying one out, is it a bit bulky for a pocket rig?

Marshall
September 23, 2010, 06:46 PM
It's different. Maybe it will grow on me?

nalioth
September 23, 2010, 07:15 PM
When is this going into a movie?It's progenitor already has.

"Ghost in the Shell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_in_the_shell)" @ IMFDB (http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Ghost_in_the_Shell#Mateba_Revolver)

David E
September 23, 2010, 08:41 PM
The "6 shots in 1.39" clip is interesting....

But it shows the shooter having trouble between shots 1 and 2. That shooter could do it faster, once he mastered the trigger.

Also, it appears that the shooter self-started, with the time beginning on the first shot, and the time figured out after the fact. This really means he fired only FIVE shots in 1.39

Evenso, the muzzle flip didn't appear to be all that bad and the shot placement was decent.

Dnaltrop
September 23, 2010, 09:52 PM
http://www.chiappafirearms.com/products/75

Ladles and Jellyspoons...here are your long barrels.

Even my wife likes the look. ^^

Shadow 7D
September 23, 2010, 11:57 PM
It's still not a mateba....

Marshall
September 24, 2010, 12:08 AM
Heck, if that's not a vent rib, I don't know what one is! :scrutiny:

GreenMTNLife
September 24, 2010, 03:19 AM
Wow I kinda like the look of the 6". I still think the snubby is ugly. But the 6" looks pretty badass.

CajunBass
September 24, 2010, 09:18 AM
I wish someone would give me one...so I could trade it in on a Python or a Model 19.

RX-178
September 24, 2010, 09:29 AM
I'm definitely waiting on a 6" Rhino to fill the .357 magnum shaped void in my collection.

:D

springfield30-06
September 24, 2010, 10:01 AM
I like all firearms but this one is not anywhere near something that I would buy. I'd like to shoot it, but can't get over how bad it looks to me. I can compromise between practicality and looks, but the guns I get usually have to be at least somewhat aesthetically pleasing.

armoredman
September 26, 2010, 08:17 PM
Just like E.T., so ugly it's cute. :)

OnPointFirearms
September 28, 2010, 05:13 PM
Here are some teaser pics Chiappa sent me last week. It's of a special edition 200D (DAO) model with "olive wood" grips. Enjoy.

http://www.onpointsupply.com/images/chiappa_rhino_olive_wood_1.jpg
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Erik M
September 28, 2010, 05:39 PM
It's hideous. I love it.
My thoughts exactly, I wouldlove to see it in a 4" flavour.

Gottahaveone
September 28, 2010, 09:12 PM
Need beer goggles-- or some sort of impaired goggles to appreciate it.
I'm afraid that what I'd need would be a sharp stick poked into each eye. Best of luck with your sales, and I mean that honestly. But it's just not for me :)

cowpoke
September 28, 2010, 10:10 PM
That is the uglyest POS i have ever seen!

340PD
September 29, 2010, 09:20 AM
Love it if it is of high quality manufacture. Change things up. Life is short. Give someone a table full of S&W's, and one of these, and I assure you this one gets picked up first.

RevDerb
September 29, 2010, 11:29 AM
That is UNDOUBTEDLY the ugliest handgun that I have ever seen! It is highly doubtful that it will grow on me with time.:barf:

Dnaltrop
September 29, 2010, 11:46 AM
There's a PDF on Chiappa's site about how to properly Grip the Rhino.

This makes me wonder, with the firing chamber on the bottom, do you feel any increase in the sidestream-mist of hot vapors?

I'm quite used to a bit of light, inconsequential side-spray on my newer revolvers, and even sometimes a larger fleck when firing my VERY well worn Model 10.

I like ugly guns... You have to find other justifications beyond beauty. the question is how does it function.

TuckerNielson
September 29, 2010, 03:10 PM
I can't wait to shoot one. New ideas in the revolver world don't come around very often. I don't know if I'm going to embrace this but I'd like to hold and shoot it at least.

CoastieShep
September 29, 2010, 03:35 PM
Sure it's ugly, but it's not designed to be pretty. It's designed to be functional, and lowering the barrel to the bottom effectively reduces leverage, resulting in less barrel flip, allowing you to get off shots faster and as always, more lead towards the BG increases your chance of walking away.
Would I get one? No thanks. Too ugly. :D

rogertc1
October 8, 2010, 06:29 AM
I just got a Rhino snubbie 2 days ago. $675 at a rural gun store. Neat gun for my collection. Very heavy trigger pull on DA.
To date they have only shipped 200 of these into the USA from Italy. The shop that produces them for Chippa has only 10 employees.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c248/rogertc1/firearms/Rhino.jpg

jfh
October 8, 2010, 10:03 AM
Each time I visit this thread, I find my curiosity goes up a hair, and the fugly reaction goes down a hair.

I suspect the fugly characteristic is really a Not-Invented-Here / Foreigner characteristic, and that it is is enhanced slightly by some poor design work at the barrel / muzzle on this initial one.

Then, if Chiappa can get to the enhancements--maybe address that trigger, etc.--they might have a seller.

Jim H.

rogertc1
October 8, 2010, 06:42 PM
i predict a sort run with very few Rhinos exported to the USA. Will e a rare gun.

David E
October 8, 2010, 11:07 PM
I think it's a coold concept, but the "Hard DA trigger pull" is a concern with any gun, much less one that looks like this and costs that much.

PT1911
October 8, 2010, 11:11 PM
expensive... but intriguing..

ABBOBERG
October 11, 2010, 04:46 PM
Here is a link to the Rhino owner's manual. Page 8 shows a picture with two hands holding two different revolvers, implying that the Rhino is shorter than a conventional revolver (note that the Rhino hand is set further back than the other hand). However, accodring to Rhino specs, a 2" barreled Rhino revolver has an overall length of 6.5". But a 1-7/8" barreled Smith and Wesson 646 airweight has an overall length of 6-3/8" - the same difference!

http://chiappafirearms.com/sites/default/files/manuals/RHINO_manual_%20ENG_3.pdf

I must say, though, I like the low bore axis and the looks of it!

KodiakBeer
October 11, 2010, 05:10 PM
Too bad about the crappy DA pull. It's intriguing, but if it has a bad trigger it sort of negates any advantages.

jdub3
October 11, 2010, 10:29 PM
I like it. Especially in 4-5" barrel lengths. The report about the DA pull is a bit worrisome.

harmon rabb
October 12, 2010, 06:20 AM
They're awesomely cool for the weirdness factor, but many things about it make me wonder why. Why the hexagonal cylinder? Because revolvers with round cylinders don't hide well under t-shirts? Oh wait... :rolleyes: They do. :D

Would definitely be interested in shooting one though.

ABBOBERG
October 12, 2010, 09:23 AM
It seems obvious to me that the DA stroke is short (and heavy) so that the index finger does not extend forward and get cut by the cylinder flash.

Gentleman Brown
February 10, 2011, 05:10 PM
When is this going into a movie? Some femme fatale HAS to have this in a garter holster...
Not a movie, but a music video meant to look like a movie trailer...
http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi695638553/
Check out 1:27

Prosser
February 10, 2011, 09:45 PM
From what I can find, it's a 25-26 oz gun empty. That's about the same as the Model 60.

It's certainly NOT a 12 oz. 360PD. That's probably a good thing.

I take issue with the 'expensive comments, since it seems all the .357 Smiths are 760.00, or more, the Rhino isn't 'expensive', unless of course you consider all S&W's expensive.

Trigger was 12 pounds DA, 5 SA. Seems better then the usual S&W snubbie trigger. Mine was 16 pounds to start, DA.

I've never shot a Model 60 with Buffalobore .357 in it. Still, I suspect when they say full house loads of .357, I kind of doubt it's the heavy bullet, high velocity max loads the .357 is capable of.

I just ran recoil figures for the 180 grain, 1400 fps, in the Rhino.
Recoil Energy of 19 foot pounds, and Recoil Velocity of 28 fps.
All things considered, that's a light .44 Magnum load. The recoil is going straight back into your hand, but, at that level, I think it's probably shootable. Grip design, and how you hold it are going to make a huge difference, as well, and if the grips fit your hand correctly.

I have some loads that come straight back in a Bisley gripped gun.
Recoil Energy of 54 foot pounds, and Recoil Velocity of 31 fps. These feel like someone hit your palm with a baseball bat, right in the palm, and feels like your hand is going to split in two.

Wonder if a good gunsmith might get the DA pull under 10 pounds?

Uneasy Rider
February 11, 2011, 03:08 PM
Very cool gun. I like the look of it!

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