Defensive Clays?


January 23, 2003, 01:45 AM
Anyone ever tried shooting clays (trap and/or skeet style) with an 18" barrel and a cylinder choke?

If so -- how'd it work out for you?

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Dave McCracken
January 23, 2003, 05:18 AM
Of course!

Any of the clay games where shots are 25 yards or closer can be done well with a Cylinder choke and short barrel.

Trap shots run over 30 yards, so this isn't the place for Cylinder choke.

I don't shoot a lot of Sporting Clays, but I do use a 21" barrelled 870 with the Skeet tube in when I do.

If you want to win at the clay games, a riot gun isn't the best choice.

If you want to get better with your crisis management tool and have fun while so doing, shoot your alley sweeper...

Oh yes, that open choke and fast handling pumpgun is deadly on quail and other game in the brush....

January 23, 2003, 08:56 AM
Sure do for skeet. Not all the time because I have other options more suited to clay shooting but the short barrel gets taken out every once in a while to maintain operator performance.

Some clay clubs and shooters frown on the HD guns. They are a little lounder and possibly not as "fashionable" as other guns. Fortunately, not where I shoot.


Will Fennell
January 23, 2003, 11:13 AM
I won a few bets shooting my shortbarreled 870's and cyl choke on sportingclays. Its not my choice, but its fun and definitely doable.

Amedeus mentions riot guns being "frowned upon" at some clubs....well probally no more than if I showed up to shoot an IDPA match with a S&W 29 44 mag shooting full powered loads:rolleyes: Somebody will probally kid you a bit about it, but most will just be happy to have a new shooter trying the game out;)

January 23, 2003, 02:12 PM
I started shooting trap with my Mossberg 590A1 and still do if I'm taking a new shooter up with me. It has a 20" cylinder choke barrel.

I think it's real good marksmanship practice. You have to fire really quickly after the bird leaves the house to get consistant hits.

January 23, 2003, 02:43 PM
Regular rd of skeet, or clays. Also will at High 8 'walk toward high high' by this I mean start at station, move toward house about a yd, shoot , repeat--see how close until you miss. Repeat for low house--. I used to make it 2/3 of the way on High and 1/2way on low houses, bbl length made no difference.

quail walks, games of horse, and stationary targets -separate or combined. Gun handling, reloading, skills really improved.

We would close off all but the last skeet field and 5 stand course (next to each other) and have a "walk through" designed. Sometimes allow a max of 3 shells, other times 5 .Puller would pull at report, say engage 2 stationary at report OR at his choosing he would 1, 2 or 3 birds, fast and furious but reloads, keeping aware, and gun handling sharpened up. For spice add white or green birds--no shoot with penalty or biggest threat--whatcha gonna do?

Fun, suprising what a stock 18" bore with a max capacity of 5 can really bells, whistles, gizmos or gadgets.
These guns (stock) would win , heavy ladened -well proved not really a help in most cases.

January 24, 2003, 06:49 PM
I shoot skeet and trap with my 18in cylider bore shotguns often. I just love how the snobish disaprooving stares turn to disgust when you star powdering bird after bird.

Just takes more practice. The oportunity to gain more farmiliarity and proficency w/ my HD shotgun, while doing something entertaining is great.

Dave McCracken
January 25, 2003, 07:44 AM
Actually,I see amazement more than disgust,Carbon 15.

A surprising number of folks think one NEEDS a few grand's worth of shotgun to hit lots of clays.
It's nice to see them gain a Satori when clays shatter after a riot gun speaks its piece on the clays course.

It's the pianist, not the piano...

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