Does a .45 always mean a 1911 to you?


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DasFriek
September 24, 2010, 10:34 AM
I know for me when i think .45 i think 1911, Large or small it doesn't matter.
I have a full sized 1911 which is my favorite ccw gun, But would like a smaller one. I do have an XD SC .40 but only because i couldn't find a .45 that small i liked or could afford.
I didn't like the Glock 30.
And i couldn't afford a quality 3" 1911 that i felt would be reliable enough like the Colt New Agent and Defender.

That was then, But now im working on saving the money to get the exact gun i want.

The Kahr PM .45 being the one exception.
But i know little of its reputation and reliability.
But it is on average $200 cheaper and lighter than the 2 Colts.

The New Agent i love the looks and snag free design and in all black. Gutter sights are fine as its a CCW that will most likley never be needed past 15'

The Defender has many nicer options like stainless and great sights, But i hate the grip for such a small ccw gun. But those can be changed out.

Am i limiting myself too much in only thinking about 1911's?
The CW45 isnt bad, But id feel its a compromise and wouldn't feel like i bought the "exact" gun i wanted.
I don't want any more Taurus's.

What im looking for is peoples experience with the PM45 and what they paid.
Any positive or negative on the 2 colts.
If your a 1911 lover could you love another .45 other than a 1911? I feel the Kahr is comparable in quality to the Colts.

After this is all over,Even tho i don't like the Glock 30, I wouldn't mind trading the XD SC .40 in on a G29. The round makes up for the things i dislike about the gun.

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huntsman
September 24, 2010, 10:47 AM
No I like the .45acp but not the 1911

Ben86
September 24, 2010, 10:56 AM
When I think of .45 the 1911 does usually cross my mind. However, a 1911 is not the only .45 I would own. I'd love a S&W M&P 45. That said I think 1911s in anything but .45 is just blasphemy.

Kahrs are great guns. I have a pm9 and it is a fantastic little jewel. They are just overly tight when you first get them.

KenW.
September 24, 2010, 10:58 AM
A .45ACP doesn't need to be a 1911; but a 1911 should be .45ACP.

If its not a single stack .45ACP, AND single action, its NOT a 1911.:cuss:

IMO, The only exceptions considered should be .38 Super and a .22LR conversion.

Water-Man
September 24, 2010, 10:58 AM
Well, I like my 1911 but I also like my Sig P220.

Olympus
September 24, 2010, 11:07 AM
When someone says "I just got a new .45", I always see a 1911 in my mind. It's a bit of a letdown when it turns out to be a polymer pistol. :o

mcdonl
September 24, 2010, 11:11 AM
If/When I do own a 1911 it will be in 9mm.

If I get a .45ACP it would be a glock.

bds
September 24, 2010, 11:15 AM
DasFriek:
... because i couldn't find a .45 that small i liked or could afford. I didn't like the Glock 30.
Same here. Even though I am a Glock fan, G30 did not work out as my wife must be able to shoot everything we have (just in case) and the grip on the G30 was too fat for her.

Taurus MP PT145 has smaller grip and the same 10 rnd double-stacked capacity. For CCW, it is comparable in size as my G27 with longer grip length (uses the same Fobus holster as XD). It is very affordable at around $350.

I started out with a 1911 and consider it the "father" of 45ACP. I live in a practical world with real threats to my life/family, so I don't mind having 10+ 45ACP options like PT145, M&P45, XD45, etc.

amprecon
September 24, 2010, 11:51 AM
What's a 1911 :confused:



JK, I've tried to like them......twice incidentally. I just cannot shoot them well.

The Glock 21 on the other hand.....I shoot no other handgun better, no other handgun feels as good in my hand.

Thaddeus Jones
September 24, 2010, 12:02 PM
No, not to me. I've "been there done that" with the 1911 courtesy of Uncle Sugar.

Once was enough. :)

.45 means S&W 3rd generation pistols, to me. ;) TJ

samurai
September 24, 2010, 12:05 PM
I like the M&P45c, but may start carrying my Defender Plus more now that it's cooling off.

springfield30-06
September 24, 2010, 12:09 PM
Usually the first image that pops into my head when someone talks about a .45 is a 1911 unless I know that they don't have one, but it doesn't mean that I automatically assume that they're talking about a 1911. I almost always ask what type of gun they're talking about if they only say the caliber.

gb6491
September 24, 2010, 12:10 PM
When I see or hear .45ACP, my first thought is 1911 and it's a long time favorite of mine. I have two Government size 1911s and an Officer's.
However, I have several non 1911 guns in .45ACP that I like a lot and my daily carry is one of them: a Kahr CW45
Regards,
Greg

Stasher1
September 24, 2010, 12:18 PM
No. I've had my time with the 1911 (two Colts, two Kimbers, and a Dan Wesson) and NONE of them were reliable enough for EDC. They're neat little range toys or BBQ guns, but when I think of .45 now I think of more modern firearms with better track records for reliability without the endless tinkering and tweaking the 1911 requires.

Tommygunn
September 24, 2010, 12:18 PM
Well, I have a Springfield XD45. So I guess I'd say "no."

TexasRifleman
September 24, 2010, 12:20 PM
Actually for me if someone says they got a "new .45" I always assume they mean a single action revolver in .45 Colt. Guess I'm just old fashioned :)

If they mention ACP then yes, I assume 1911 usually.

Although after shooting an XDm for a while I've had a serious conversion, I really like those things.

swinokur
September 24, 2010, 12:21 PM
I have a G30 and a 1911, so in my mind it could be either.

DRYHUMOR
September 24, 2010, 12:25 PM
I have 3 1911's that are 9mm. But yes, when I hear .45 I usually think 1911.

slicksleeve
September 24, 2010, 12:25 PM
No. Because the only .45 I have shot was a Glock 21, and the only 1911 I have shot was a 9mm.

AirForceShooter
September 24, 2010, 12:51 PM
When you say .45 I think of 2 things.

1. a 1911
2. a Colt Peacemaker.

Yeah, I'm old too

AFS

Prion
September 24, 2010, 01:15 PM
No, I think America!!! Hell Yeah!!! Badass!!!

Dnaltrop
September 24, 2010, 01:36 PM
1) I think of Wheelguns

2) I think of a Thompson with a drum.

3) THEN 1911

huntershooter
September 24, 2010, 01:40 PM
If we're talking (.45) ACP;
If it doesn't mean a 1911, it means a mod. 22 S&W (that's a revolver).

.45 in general (ACP and Colt) means the above and a "P" mod. Colt.

jimmyraythomason
September 24, 2010, 01:46 PM
For me it could be my 2 Ruger p90s or my FEG BHP clone. I don't even consider the 1911 for .45acp.

Russ Jackson
September 24, 2010, 01:59 PM
There is the 1911 and then there is everything else. However that new Springfield XD45 is very nice and if Detonics ever starts making those new ones...Russ

EdLaver
September 24, 2010, 02:35 PM
It means Springfield XD Tactical .45 to me.

huntsman
September 24, 2010, 04:05 PM
No, not to me. I've "been there done that" with the 1911 courtesy of Uncle Sugar.

Once was enough. :)

.45 means S&W 3rd generation pistols, to me. ;) TJ
me too ;)

Utahusker
September 24, 2010, 04:38 PM
I owned 3 .45's-

1) Sig P220 still own

2) SA XD45 still own

3) Kimber Eclipse II target sold

They are all great guns, but I needed some money and the Kimber was the easiest to part with.

So my answer is the 1911 isn't my first choice of today's .45's.

LeonCarr
September 24, 2010, 04:43 PM
I like the .45 ACP in anything EXCEPT a 1911.

Do a search for LeonCarr and 1911, and read away :).

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

Waywatcher
September 24, 2010, 04:44 PM
The first thing that comes to mind is a 45 SAA 1873, then a 1911.

Bill.45
September 24, 2010, 05:04 PM
Yes, it sure does! I've been collecting the WWI1911 and WWII 1911A1 for 20+ years. They are way to expensive today to shoot, that is the old ones. Most of those you find are "Bubba's garage" guns.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/Silver73/WWII/1.jpg

hexidismal
September 24, 2010, 05:11 PM
For me, not at all. Various other quality .45 acp guns come to mind. Actually, among folks I know these days, when someone says they got/want a .45 I normally assume it is going to be a Glock or an XD. I have one 1911, and 3 other non-1911 pistols in 'ol four five.

9mmepiphany
September 24, 2010, 05:43 PM
I used to think they were talking about a Sig 220...because I worked for a Sig department...now I usually think in terms of a HK45 or S&W M&P45, unless we're talking about small guns, then I think Kahr CW45.

Most folks I know will say "I got a new 1911" when that is what they are talking about or they'll call out the name if it is a higher end model like "I got an Ed Brown" or "I got a Les Baer"

Arkansas Paul
September 24, 2010, 05:49 PM
Actually for me if someone says they got a "new .45" I always assume they mean a single action revolver in .45 Colt. Guess I'm just old fashioned

That aint old fashioned. I've barely turned 30 and that's what I think too. When I hear .45, I think of guns like these.


http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac223/prgann/Dadsnewgun026.jpg

ms6852
September 24, 2010, 06:33 PM
When someone says I just bought a 1911 I think of 45acp, not 38 special or 9mm. When they say I bought a 45 I think 1911.

labhound
September 24, 2010, 06:42 PM
I tend to think 1911, although the only .45 acp I own is a very good Stoeger Cougar 8045. I keep thinking of buying a 1911, but the more I read about the constant tinkering done to them to keep them reliable makes me pause and not buy!

Onward Allusion
September 24, 2010, 06:46 PM
I used to think .45 ACP = 1911 but these days there are a lot more options. So, no - I don't think 1911 when I hear of .45 ACP. While the 1911 is great fun at the range, I personally would take a Glock 21 for SD/HD if I had to chamber in .45ACP.

Oyeboten
September 24, 2010, 07:00 PM
Word association wise, if I hear ".45" I think of a Colt SAA.


But when I think of Colt .45, I also think of...


http://hotimg23.fotki.com/a/65_160/210_136/colt45workseverytime-vi.jpg (http://hotimg23.fotki.com/p/a/65_160/210_136/colt45workseverytime-vi.jpg)

Zerodefect
September 24, 2010, 07:10 PM
Yes, yes it deos:
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss290/zerodefect2533/DSC01590.jpg

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss290/zerodefect2533/DSC01556.jpg

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss290/zerodefect2533/DSC01469.jpg

It's the only fullsize .45 thin enough for CCW. It's the only pistol that can use a lightweight accurate trigger and still be perfectly safe. Truely a high end weapon.

Still to this day there is nothing quite like it. But I wish there was a pitol that was 1911 like, double stack, linkless modern barrel, no grip safety, hammerless/striker fired possibly and single action only. But that'll never happen.

The G21 and XD are too fat. I love shooting the G21, and would love to have a long slide version for IDPA, but no such creature exists.

The more experienced I become, the more I'm able to do with this platform. Took me a while to get used to the 1911 grip.

DasFriek
September 24, 2010, 08:06 PM
It's the only fullsize .45 thin enough for CCW. It's the only pistol that can use a lightweight accurate trigger and still be perfectly safe. Truly a high end weapon.
I tend to agree with that, My PT1911 prints less than my XD SC .40 but its not as comfortable when less clothing is a concern.

Id like a smaller 1911 but the cost is wa up their for a higher quality one like a Colt.
But that has me thinking about the Kahr's CW and PM in .45
The CW would be an easier choice since its about $400, But the PM45 at $700 +- a few bucks makes me want to just go full out with the Colt New Agent.

But on full sized guns no one makes an easier to conceal gun than a 1911. If people could just teach machines to cut rounded angles instead of blocks i think it could be done.
The S&W 3rd gen is pretty close tho, They really need to consider bring a few models back like the Chiefs Special and the Lady Smith auto and its male counterpart.

Someone mentioned the 1911 needs more attention and service than most other new generation of polymer guns, Id have to say i agree when you talking about the guns that aren't the highest end stuff that cost $2500-$3000 as they are made to withstand punishment without all the extra care. But it would be stupid not to do that just because you can.
Many 1911's have went to cheaper parts inside and out to keep costs down to compete with the other .45's out there.
But i also feel you grow an attachment to a 1911 due to this and ll your sweat and time fine tuning and adjusting the gun when its needed. If done right its just as reliable as any Glock or XD.

Anyhow if i was looking for a full sized .45 a 1911 is the easy choice imo.
But in a small 3" gun im finding it hard to side with the 1911.
A few other small .45's were mentioned so ill be going back and looking into them more.

PX15
September 24, 2010, 08:26 PM
Nope.:)

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/Laserlips/100_0030.jpg


J.

Joe Demko
September 24, 2010, 08:51 PM
When I hear ".45" I tend to immediately picture a S&W 4566. Wish I still had mine.,

bds
September 24, 2010, 08:51 PM
But I wish there was a [pistol] that was 1911 like, double stack, linkless modern barrel, no grip safety, hammerless/striker fired possibly and single action only.
4.5" M&P45 with a crisp trigger job (http://www.burwellguns.com/M&Ptriggerjob1.htm) may come close. Feeds SWC like butter on hot pan. Mine even comes with frame mounted ambi-trigger safety (no grip safety).

bds
September 24, 2010, 09:32 PM
Instead of the trigger job, you can drop in the Apex sear (https://apextactical.com/store/product-info.php?pid17.html) for a clean, smooth 4 lb trigger.

frankge
September 24, 2010, 09:53 PM
means Springfield 1911-A1, HK USP .45, and Glock 36 to me!

DeepSouth
September 24, 2010, 09:56 PM
The Kahr PM .45 being the one exception.
But i know little of its reputation and reliability.
But it is on average $200 cheaper and lighter than the 2 Colts.
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What im looking for is peoples experience with the PM45 and what they paid.
Any positive or negative on the 2 colts.
If your a 1911 lover could you love another .45 other than a 1911? I feel the Kahr is comparable in quality to the Colts.

I have a PM45, as far as reliability it had a FTF ("3-point jam") on round #39. Other than that it has ran 100% for me. When I first got it, it had the same FTF every time (and I mean every time) my wife shot it until about the round count got to be in 350-400 range, since then it has been 100% reliable with every shot fired. The round count is now around the 1,200 mark. It has never shown any sign of problems with JHP's. Come to think of it every problem it has ever had was with a WWB.

I will also say all of the problems I have heard of with a PM45 come form a problem now commonly called "the notch." The PM9's have a notch in the inside of the slide between the holes for the hole barrel and the hole for the guide rod. The PM45's do not come with that notch machined out so it will wear in from the guide rod lightly hitting the slide where the notch should be. If it has problems past the recommended 200 round break-in KAHR will machine the notch in and all troubles will be solved. They may have began to machine the notch in in the newer models, I don't know.

After reading what I just wrote I realized I make it sound worse than it really is. This is a very, very tight pistol it will need some break-in, even if it functions fine. You can just feel it getting smoother and smoother as you shoot it more. So the end product is a very tight, very smooth pistol. It is really a gun that that has the look and feel of unusually high quality. Once you either wear in or have KAHR machine in the notch it will be 100% reliable.

I will also say it is more accurate than most full sized auto's. It does get a little hard to shoot because of the small grip and the long hard trigger, which is good for a DA striker fired pistol. I pocket carry mine everyday. It is by far my favorite carry gun. I highly recommend them to anyone looking for a compact 45.

I paid $630.00 for mine w/o night sights. I think they have gone up a bit since I bought mine. If you have anymore questions feel free to ask.


Hears a pic of my beauty.

http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/ll388/hsmom22boys/Billys00/MyFamily367.jpg

Beagle-zebub
September 24, 2010, 10:15 PM
No, not to me. I've "been there done that" with the 1911 courtesy of Uncle Sugar.

Once was enough.

Bad experience?

EDIT: with the gun?

smartshooter.45
September 24, 2010, 10:21 PM
Well, I like my 1911 but I also like my Sig P220.

agreed. my collection favorite is a CBOB with Esmeralda grips but my P220 will always be my nightstand pistol.

Jim Watson
September 24, 2010, 10:35 PM
My P220 is a nightstand pistol, too. And that is about where it stops, except for occasional practice. I figure the crunch-tick is a safety factor while I might be juggling glasses, gun, and flashlight under stress. The Gov't Model does most of the match shooting and the Commander is about my maximum holster gun.

jkulysses
September 24, 2010, 10:38 PM
The only .45acp I have is my Ruger P90 so naturally that's what comes to my mind. :D

Randyc74
September 24, 2010, 11:46 PM
Once upon a time, 40 or so years ago a .45 meant a Colt 1911 to me. Fast forward to today and .45 means many fine pistols. My current favorite is my Glock 30sf. Shoots well and carrys well.

jackpinesavages
September 25, 2010, 01:03 AM
My other .45, other than my STI, is the FNP-45. I'm big enough that it disappears for CCW. Branch out. Look at the S&W M&P 45c if you are a smaller framed person.

hemiram
September 25, 2010, 05:53 AM
When I hear .45ACP, I don't think 1911. I think of an S&W 4506.

When I hear "My .45 jams all the time, I DO think 1911.

The only 1911 I would ever think about owning is an old one that "rattles". They seem to shoot fine, unlike a lot of the pretty ones.

Pilot
September 25, 2010, 10:52 AM
I prefer the 1911 platform in .45 ACP, however, I do appreciate other pistols in this fine caliber. My HK USP Tactical .45 is a fine pistol that is easy to shoot well, and my only polymer pistol.

I've shot Sigs and Glocks in .45 ACP and enjoyed them also.

9mmepiphany
September 25, 2010, 11:26 AM
This isn't a thread to discuss the faults or advantages of the 1911...just what comes to mind when you hear ".45".

A comment about why a certain gun comes to mind is fine, but lets not get involved in arguments about it...that isn't the point of the OP

doubleh
September 25, 2010, 11:35 AM
When I hear .45 I think 1911. If it isn't a 1911 I'm not interested. I'm sure that there are some other fine .45s made that aren't 1911s but I don't care. 1911s float my boat, others don't.

Browns Fan
September 25, 2010, 04:46 PM
Quote:
"It means Springfield XD Tactical .45 to me. "

Ohh, yeah! 14 rounds of .45 caliber righteousness! My home defense gun of choice.

Zerodefect, how did you manage to get TWO Valors? Beautiful guns! You lucky dog!

Old krow
September 25, 2010, 10:39 PM
When I hear .45 I think 1911. If it isn't a 1911 I'm not interested. I'm sure that there are some other fine .45s made that aren't 1911s but I don't care. 1911s float my boat, others don't.

Same. Personally I think that they're an icon for that caliber. When I think of .45 I think of metal... and Magnum PI.

But, after reading this thread I have realized that I do not have enough knowledge of other .45s so I must buy another platform so that I can compare.

Zerodefect
September 25, 2010, 10:52 PM
Quote:
"It means Springfield XD Tactical .45 to me. "

Ohh, yeah! 14 rounds of .45 caliber righteousness! My home defense gun of choice.

Zerodefect, how did you manage to get TWO Valors? Beautiful guns! You lucky dog!

Naw, that's the same gun, different grips. Going to be alot nicer once it's Hard Hatted(melonite) in black and Alumahyde the trigger black. So It'll be all black with no markings at all.

BlayGlock
September 25, 2010, 11:36 PM
Im a 1911 guy. However, I also have an H&K45 which is nice. I have also owned an M&P 45 which was a great gun. I would say, no .45 does not always mean 1911 to me. I would also say that a 1911 is not just a .45. 9mm, .38 super, 10mm, .40, .and .460 rowland can all be found in a 1911 platform and they ate all legit. You can even get a 1911 in 10mm norma and I have heard of people converting some into .357 sig.

noylj
September 25, 2010, 11:38 PM
If someone says they have a .45, I think 1911 or SAA.

Confederate
September 25, 2010, 11:40 PM
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh198/jriler/GIswithPistol.jpg

From the time I was a wee sprat of a kid, I associated the Colt 1911 as a gun that was completely ineffective against aliens. Whenever the Army was called out to take care of a robot or an alien, the 1911 almost always was ineffective!

Remember the film this clip was taken from? This was the first film where I actively associated the 1911 with not working against aliens.

"Klaatu, barata, neckto!"


http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRkxrhUU-vReTZeoGWzklJ8Dnb5-DRuMzEF9mTPh43qO1Y4rMQ&t=1&usg=__POOs8T_JaEKXUaYCHoo3rmZjZvE=

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSADSLPHs5FCUgDodIePyNacTv_TqnibRRtXx6Ka8XPG9ccO2Q&t=1&usg=__mjFOjGo4wFuvbQW1496ebhRiwMs=


http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh198/jriler/SW645_2.jpg

Now that's a .45!

.

DasFriek
September 26, 2010, 01:50 AM
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh198/jriler/SW645_2.jpg
That is a big .45 no doubt, But put that next to a Dan Wesson it just looks like any other 3rd gen S&W. I hate saying that as its lines just don't appeal to me.
But a Chiefs Special .45 is just a hot as a 1911, It just flows.

Those army guys better get their bugger pickers out of the trigger hole. Even tho that movie was before my time i still remember clips of it.

As an ongoing sentiment to the thread im trying to like other guns besides the 1911 even tho i also feel .45=1911
Im finding it hard to find a small gun that can do what even a medium sized 1911 can do ccw wise.

This may be something not heard before, But i figure this is as good a thread as any to mention it.
You know how the explosion of states allowing CCW has made a boom in the .380 market? I feel its done just as much in the 1911 market also. Sorry about the puns tho. Just look at all the new and many models of any 1911 shorter than 5"
Kimber especially seems to have picked up on the trend the best.
It seems only Kahr has picked up on the single stack and thin gun means a great CCW even if its larger.
The gun manufactures eventually have to realize that if a gun is thin they can get away with long barrels and if they bobtailed a polymer gun id see no reason for anyone to complain either.

smithge
September 26, 2010, 01:59 AM
When I think of .45, I think of my S&W Model 25-2 with a 6 inch barrel which is .45 ACP. This N frame revolver is too big and heavy to carry, but awesome at the range.

big mason
September 26, 2010, 02:22 AM
1911 are nice but i have yet to find a gun that i can be as accurate with as my xd .45. but it all barrels down to preference

oasis618
September 26, 2010, 02:27 AM
No, but I prefer if it does. I'm going to catch some flak for this but accuracy is great and all...but in a self defense situation...if you are at a legal "good shooting" distance, anything with a live round and a trigger should do the job.

The Lone Haranguer
September 26, 2010, 03:16 AM
To me, 1911 means .45, but not the reverse. :)

buck460XVR
September 26, 2010, 11:32 AM
To me, 1911 means .45, but not the reverse. :)


......yep, what he said.

longhair75
September 26, 2010, 12:27 PM
I have to admit that my opinion of the 1911 and the .45 acp is very subjective. Years ago, a friend came up with a military surplus 1911 and, due to its very poor condition, neither of us could hit much of anything with it. My main weapon at the time was a S&W model 19-4 .357, and the .45 just wasn't in the same class. The second 1911 I tried belonged to a widow of an old friend of mine. It was nickle plated and had no identifying marks on it whatsoever. It was about as accurate as I could be throwing a baseball and at least once in every six shots the magazine would fall out.

A little while after that I picked up a vintage Browning High Power. What a sweet shooter! The only problem is that my wife ended up taking it over. For the last twenty years of so, these have been the two pistols that I have been shooting.

I admit that the opinion I have had over the years of the 1911 has been based on two poor experiences with the weapon. Reading here and at other message boards has given me more interest in trying them again. My next pistol, possibly before the end of the week, will be a Beretta M9. My wife wants a Beretta 84fs. After those tow, I will start looking at .45s.

Just my ever so humble opinion.

DasFriek
September 27, 2010, 02:23 AM
Longhair- It would be a down right shame for you to buy another pistol without shooting a decent 1911 and see what they are all about and can make a more informed buying decision. If not now, for later is fine.
My PT1911 has been massaged internally and holster worn on the outside and shoots as sweet as any gun ive ever shot.

If one of the most looked down apon 1911's can make me such a 1911 lover then just imagine how much i yearn to build a better one.

longhair75
September 27, 2010, 11:12 AM
Friend DasFriek,

I do intend on checking out the 1911 next. I have been researching them quite a bit lately. I have been really interested in the negative comments coming from Kimber owners, and I have been looking at the Colt 1991 series and the Defender series. I will add the Taurus PT1911 to this list.

Fishslayer
September 27, 2010, 02:02 PM
No, but I DO plan on getting a 1911 eventually. Just always seem to be something I like better.

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn215/THE_Fishslayer/OSR/Pairof45s1.jpg

BlindJustice
September 27, 2010, 04:13 PM
Not so much over the years with the expansion of choices.

I have a full size 1911 in .45 ACP as well as a 625 .45 ACP 5" Bbl.
which also I fire .45 Auto Rim out of. As well as a Marlin 1894 in
.45 Colt.

Smaller options for a .45 ACP CCW make/model

The now discontinued Colt CCO is a 1911 variant with the
Commander length (4.25") Bbl/Slide on the Officers frame.
I've read in several reviews/shared experience / measurements
the .45 ACP loses a lot of velocity with the 3.5/3" bbl. len.


Several makers offer CCO variants Sig, S&W & Others as well as
Wilson Combat and Kimber have 4" models on the Off. frame

A polymer option you might want to handle

S&W M&P 45C I handled one and it is not a fattie only 1.2" width
but a doble stack as it's 8 rd mag capacity.. 4" Bbl. - I've fired a
full size M&P in .40 S&W and liked the sights, controls and trigger
in comparing it to a shooting buddy's G19.

Good luck with yer shoppping/choice

Randall

DasFriek
September 27, 2010, 04:38 PM
Friend DasFriek,

I do intend on checking out the 1911 next. I have been researching them quite a bit lately. I have been really interested in the negative comments coming from Kimber owners, and I have been looking at the Colt 1991 series and the Defender series. I will add the Taurus PT1911 to this list.

I dont want to derail the thread, But the Taurus just happens to be what i own, Not what id suggest. The Colt Defenders and New Agent get me all sweaty under the collar. Im not to much into Kimber but the new S&W 1911 have been making some really nice options especially in the smaller 1911 area where reliability can be hard to come by. So imo Look at the Colts and S&W and Springfields and you cant go wrong.

My PT1911 shoots nothing like it did out of the box, Some was need repairs that became opportunities to upgrade and others were done for enjoyment of the gun. My goal is to slowly replace every part that is MIM made parts, Which basically is replacing everything except the slide,frame and barrel.

You can really feel the gun tighten up and smooth out as i progress in adding new high end machined parts.

Cherokee
September 27, 2010, 04:44 PM
I like 1911's in 45 ACP, but lately I've been shooting a Taurus 24/7 OSS that I think I'm going to like. I have an old Star PD for my small 45 ACP carry.

420Stainless
September 27, 2010, 08:55 PM
Yes. When someone says .45ACP I automatically assume its some sort of 1911. They are still my favorite.

I carry a PM45 during warm weather and a Combat Commander when cooler. I learned a long time ago (mainly from the lore of how unreliable an out of the box 1911 is) to ignore most of the negatives unless I see them first hand. My PM45 has been perfectly reliable through about 400 rounds so far.

HGUNHNTR
September 27, 2010, 11:56 PM
Nope, 45 means HK USP Tactical to me. Who would want an atiquated, icky ol 1911....I'm kidding of course. But I do love the HK.:p

paddling_man
September 28, 2010, 12:20 AM
Nope... it more often means S&W 3rd Gen as 1911. My Chief's Special .45 has become my new "most carried" and if I had to get rid of one pictured below, the 1911 would have to go. I'm kinda on the lookout for a 457S or 4513 now. ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/paddling_man/guns/IMG_3678.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/paddling_man/guns/IMG_3679.jpg

Valkman
September 28, 2010, 01:28 AM
It used to be that .45 meant 1911 to me, but the past few years it also means "XD-45" and I've bought 2 of those and plan on a XD(m)-45 as my next gun.

http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo80/DLKnives/XD45/BothXD2.jpg

jhansman
September 28, 2010, 02:37 AM
Well, I shot my 1911 for about 2 months before I sold it, and shoot my 2 yr. old XD45 every weekend, so.....no.

ElectrikKoolAid
September 28, 2010, 03:05 AM
Guys who like GUNS, favor 1911s, especially high-end examples like Kimber, Colt, Dan Wesson, etc.

Guys who like target shooting favor everything, but seem to go for conventional steel guns like HK, Bereta, CZ, S&W, etc.

Guys who like gun games, (or contemplate actual combat) seem to favor the "Tactical Tupperware" segment such as Glock, Springfield XD, and M&P style pistols.

Yes, there is overlap, and not mutually exclusive per category, but that is what I've noticed in my experience as broad statements.

http://i.imgur.com/PYA1J.jpg

Myself, I have an XD45c for CCW and some plinking, but at today's ammo prices I do more carry than shoot. Still like fondling a finely-crafted 1911, but am unlikely to buy my own as it doesn't suit my primary need of reliable, abuse-laden CCW.

CHEVELLE427
September 28, 2010, 04:39 AM
no
i have and or have had in 45acp
sf1911
baby eagle
taurus pt145
xd
pt1911
llama

BHP FAN
September 28, 2010, 06:02 AM
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af11/hut-man/45s2.jpg

Zsnark
November 27, 2010, 03:06 AM
Hi there Gunners,

Got a EAA Witness from late '90s. I prefer it to the 1911. I know I speak heresy but I've owned over the years, four 1911 pattern .45s. All had worrisome unpredictable foibles. The EAA has never failed and it's double action on the first pull. I am not expert enough to comment on accuracy. I believe the Witness is at least as accurate as any of the 1911s I've shot.

Incidentally, I have a recent 1911 clone which I love to shoot, but I wouldn't trade it for my CZ85.

AAW

jeepguy
November 27, 2010, 10:33 AM
yes if someone says i bought a .45 im thinking 1911. if they didn't buy a 1911 i hope they specify which make/model they bought so i know. their are only two other .45's i think i might like, one is is the sig p220 sao & the other is the cz 97 b.

gordy
November 27, 2010, 12:02 PM
Yes when I hear 45 acp I think of 1911.
I have three of them, all colts, one of each size.
I on the other hand would not trust any one of them with my life!!!!!
Sometimes they work great and sometimes they don't.
To protect me and my family I count on my Sig 220.
It works every time all the time.
100 times the firearm as any 1911. Colt or clone!:neener:
And this is with 40 years of handgun use.:cool:
Now the people will sound off.

IkenI
November 27, 2010, 12:37 PM
Nope - I have five .45's. Only one is a 1911 and it's a range gun only. Had it not been for 20+ years totin' one in the Army I wouldn't even own it. I also have a P220, two Smith revolvers in .45 ACP and a 4" Ruger Redhwk in .45 Colt. If I could only have one .45 the 1911 would be the first to go followed by the SIG.

PX15
November 27, 2010, 02:27 PM
jeepguy:

For me it's my CS45 with my LWS380 for a kicker..

Jesse

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/Laserlips/100_1412.jpg

franco45
November 27, 2010, 03:12 PM
I had to think about this. I guess at one time 45 meant 1911 to me but not so much any more. I currently own only one 1911. A RIA duotone tactical. Strictly a fun inexpensive range toy, but it has been very reliable. I carry a Kahr CW45 about 30% of the time. The rest of the time it's a Kahr CW9 or a 642 snubbie both equipped with CT lasers.

Marshall
November 27, 2010, 03:18 PM
Does a .45 always mean a 1911 to you?

No. Actually, revolvers come to mind first.

gc70
November 27, 2010, 07:40 PM
Does a .45 always mean a 1911 to you?

A .45 could mean a Colt, HK, S&W or Sig semi-automatic or a Ruger or S&W revolver.

A 1911 could mean a .45 ACP, .38 Super, or 9mm.

mashaffer
November 27, 2010, 09:21 PM
Nope, I think Peacemaker ala 1873.

mike

exdetsgt
November 27, 2010, 10:26 PM
Glock 21. Most accurate 45 I've ever owned. Most reliable, too. Ugly? Of course.

possum
November 28, 2010, 09:44 AM
Does a .45 always mean a 1911 to you?
no it doesn't this is so aggravating when i hear people say this. .45 means a .45 caliber handgun to me, that could be a 1911, a glock 21, 30, 36, xd , m&p, ruger p 345 etc.

Jonah71
November 28, 2010, 10:02 AM
I tend to think along the same line as TexasRifleman and I KNOW I'm old fashioned. But I've never fired an XDm. Until I got the Ruger 45 convertable which almost always has the loaded .45 LC cylinder, the 1911 was what I thought of first.

SlamFire1
November 28, 2010, 10:25 AM
I shoot both types of 45's.

SAA and 1911 :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/SlamFire/Pistols%20various/DSCN0472.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/SlamFire/Pistols%20various/DSCN0747ColtCombatreduced.jpg

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