Berry's Preferred Bullets, Opinions Wanted


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vernosr1
September 27, 2010, 12:53 PM
I have been using Berry's preferred bullets (45 ACP) in my Springfield XDfor about 1.5-2 years. My spreads at 25 and 50 feet were always getting a little bit better every time I shot (indoor and outdoors) until about now...I cannot seem to get a closer spread and was wondering if my use of these lower priced bullets would really create a measurable improvement should my skill level, grip stance, etc....really just be maxed out.(Yea, getting older isn't helping!!)

Please, if you have some measured comparisons/facts between these bullets and the much higher priced bullets, please let me know. I reload my own, and go thru about 1500-2000 rounds a month...so moving up in cost will cost me a lot over time. Yea, Yea, I know I can always spring for some Hornady's or something else and try them out...but if someone who is a real pro out there knows more, then I'm listening!!
Thanks in Advance.:banghead:

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madman
September 27, 2010, 01:10 PM
I've used a lot of Berrys and West Coast plated bullets for the past 10 or so years. No real issues as long as you don't push them too hard. Berrys seem to shoot well in my guns, but they are not a match bullet. My guns like them, and for practice, classes, etc where accuracy can be minute of bad guy, they are fine.

--md

Yarddog
September 27, 2010, 01:21 PM
They are great plinkin bullets, The more tigger time can't hurt ; )
Y/D

MrBorland
September 27, 2010, 02:42 PM
Just how big and how many rounds are these 25 and 50' spreads?

The net group size is a function of the shooters' accuracy plus that of the gun & ammo. IOW, as long as you're improving, so will your groups.

Typically, it's the shooter that contributes the bigger portion to group size, and a situation where groups size reaches a plateau usually means the shooter's reached a plateau. Less likely is the gun/ammo, which would indicate that shooters' inaccuracy becomes negligible compared to that of the gun/ammo, either because the shooter is exceptionally good, and/or the gun/ammo exceptionally bad. If the latter, I doubt you would've been seeing the improvement you have been seeing.

FWIW, one of the most accurate loads out of my 686 was a Berry's 158 grain plated RN. No, I'm no real pro and have no jacketed data to compare to, but it was the equal of my lead target HBWCs. Different gun, different load, though.

There are a few things you could try before springing for more expensive jacketed bullets: You could try tweaking your loads somewhat, or buying a box of good factory jacketed ammo to see if you're able to shoot smaller groups with it. You could also have someone you know to be a very good shot to try shooting your gun for groups. Any of these should give you an indication that your current gun and/or load are the limiting factor.

floydster
September 27, 2010, 06:52 PM
You can shoot FMJ cheaper then plated bullets, do your shopping.:)

ChuckB
September 27, 2010, 09:06 PM
Precision Deltas are definitely cheaper, but I'm not able to buy lots of 2000 at a time. Any other sources you'd recommend?

Chuck

floydster
September 28, 2010, 05:16 PM
Roze Distribution.

LubeckTech
September 28, 2010, 08:46 PM
I prefer Rainiers but end up using Berry's quite a bit mostly in .40 S&W.
I usually find jacketed bullets to be more expensive but do run accross deals at times and go for jacketed if there isn't much price difference. I always use jacketed for .357 and .44 mag loads. Roze seems worth checking into!! Magnus Bullet has good deals too.

Walkalong
September 28, 2010, 09:20 PM
I like them, and shoot some of them. You can get some jacketed just as cheap or cheaper. I do that too. I like the X-Treme plated bullets and the Powerbond plated bullets as well. I use some of them as well. I use Zeroes and plan on buying some Montana Gold 9MM's as soon as I am in need of some 9MM, since they are cheaper than most and get rave reviews.

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