Shipping Rifles?


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RonDeer10mm
September 28, 2010, 08:33 PM
What are the Pros and Cons of shipping UPS Ground vs UPS 2nd or Next Day Air, which will arrive more safely?

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Shadow 7D
September 28, 2010, 08:37 PM
Why arn't you using USPS?

cost less, just as fast and they have a better rep...

RonDeer10mm
September 28, 2010, 08:40 PM
but which method ships better ground or air?

Vitrophyre
September 28, 2010, 08:42 PM
UPS retail locations wont ship firearms. For example I had to go to their major distributing hub to ship. I agree with the first poster. USPS is cheaper, will accept a weapon anywhere, and just as safe- if not safer. So why not? I could understand maybe there isn't a post office close by. In that case I can only state the obvious. With ground it has more risk of being damaged enroute. So air is probably much safer. I know one time I shipped an insured laptop via UPS, and it was DOA. The recipient shipped it back USPS so the insurance was void. That really chapped my ass. Morale of the story, ship USPS if you can. If not and you can afford it, why not go air?

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Shear_stress
September 28, 2010, 09:33 PM
Go ground.

loadedround
September 28, 2010, 09:36 PM
Rifles and shotguns may be shipped thru the USPS system from a non FFL holder to a FFL dealer or manufacturer legally. Handguns no.

Shear_stress
September 28, 2010, 09:39 PM
Rifles and shotguns may be shipped thru the USPS system from a non FFL holder to a FFL dealer or manufacturer legally. Handguns no.

Just checked the regs. Long guns are indeed okay if the above conditions are followed.

dogtown tom
September 28, 2010, 10:22 PM
RonDeer10mm What are the Pros and Cons of shipping UPS Ground vs UPS 2nd or Next Day Air, which will arrive more safely?

Less time in transit = less opportunity for damage or theft. Handling is the same, no special care or handling of Next Day vs Ground.

I'm an FFL and ship 2-3 long guns and 3-4 handguns each week. For long guns I use UPS, for handguns I uses USPS (dealers are allowed to mail handguns).

If using USPS, ALWAYS go with Priority Mail- NEVER Parcel Post. PP is the proverbial slow boat to China and is processed after all other types of mail. While it is cheaper than UPS it may take WEEKS to go from Virginia to Texas (ask me how I know:mad:).

UPS handling is no better or worse than FedEx or USPS. You should expect your package to be used as a footstool, lunch table or loading ramp. Box, pack, wrap and insure accordingly.

Cheapest? USPS is not always the cheapest. Depending on the amount of insurance, you may find UPS Ground or FedEx Ground cheaper than USPS Priority Mail.

UPS- to ship a handgun you need to do so through a UPS Customer Service Center OR through a daily pickup account (if your workplace has a daily pickup/dropoff) but not a "call pickup" (where you call UPS to come get it).
***ETA: Rifles and shotguns can be shipped from a UPS daily pickup account, UPS On-Call Pickup, One-Time Pickup, or a UPS Customer Center.
You cannot ship firearms through a UPS Store or third party retailer.

FedEx- will now accept firearm shipment through any of it's FedEx Office locations.

USPS- Anyone can mail rifles or shotguns through the USPS (only dealers and manufacturers can mail a handgun through USPS). No notification that you are shipping a firearm is required.

nalioth
September 28, 2010, 10:56 PM
Rifles and shotguns may be shipped thru the USPS system from a non FFL holder to a FFL dealer or manufacturer legally.I'm sorry, but this is partially correct.

The law allows you to ship a long gun via the postal service to any legal recipient, not just an FFL holder.

deadin
September 29, 2010, 12:34 AM
The law allows you to ship a long gun via the postal service to any legal recipient, not just an FFL holder.

You might want to define "legal recipient" for those that haven't read the regulations..

Bubbles
September 29, 2010, 08:42 AM
UPS- to ship any firearm you need to do so through a UPS Customer Service Center OR through a daily pickup account (if your workplace has a daily pickup/dropoff) but not a "call pickup" (where you call UPS to come get it).
Are you sure? We don't have daily pickup and I know we've shipped out several via UPS call pickup.

We prefer to use USPS priority, insured, delivery confirmation w/ adult signature required, but occasionally the recipient will request UPS or FedEx.

jimmyraythomason
September 29, 2010, 08:47 AM
Are you sure? We don't have daily pickup and I know we've shipped out several via UPS call pickup.
If you have an account (can print your own labels)with them and call pick up you're good to go otherwise you WILL have to go to a hub not a satelite office.

dogtown tom
September 29, 2010, 09:45 AM
Bubbles Quote:
UPS- to ship any firearm you need to do so through a UPS Customer Service Center OR through a daily pickup account (if your workplace has a daily pickup/dropoff) but not a "call pickup" (where you call UPS to come get it).

Are you sure? We don't have daily pickup and I know we've shipped out several via UPS call pickup.

OOPS. I should have specified handgun "no on call pickup". Here it is straight from UPS:

Getting Your Firearm Shipment to UPS
You can only ship your package that contains a handgun from UPS daily pickup accounts or through UPS Customer Centers (counters at UPS operational facilities). Note: Handguns are not accepted for shipment through UPS Internet Shipping, UPS Drop Boxes, or UPS On-Call PickupSM, or at The UPS Store® or any third party retailer. When you are shipping a package that contains a handgun, you must verbally notify the UPS driver or UPS Customer Center clerk.
You can ship a firearm (excluding handguns), from a UPS daily pickup account, UPS On-Call Pickup, One-Time Pickup, or a UPS Customer Center. Note: Firearms are not accepted for shipment through UPS Internet Shipping, UPS Drop Boxes, or at The UPS Store or any third party retailer. See the terms and conditions in the UPS Tariff/Terms and Conditions of Service for information regarding firearm shipments.

loadedround
September 29, 2010, 10:48 AM
Shear Stress: You doubted me? Thats 100 demerits for you. :)

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